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Ack nooooo (gas prices)
2005-08-31, 1:01 PM #1
Gah, I thought it was bad enough; the price of gas just jumped TWENTY CENTS between yesterday and today. It's now $1.249 CAD/liter in town, which translates to about $3.97 US/gallon.

I know we have too many of these threads already, but this is just insane. Yes, Britassians, I know your gas (a.k.a. petrol) is still more expensive. But we're catching up!
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2005-08-31, 1:37 PM #2
Don't forget Diesal too.
nope.
2005-08-31, 1:38 PM #3
yes ours is more expensive, but you know how *I* cope???

i dont buy a friggin car!!!! simple!!!
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2005-08-31, 1:39 PM #4
I filled up at $1.19 today. :(
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2005-08-31, 1:39 PM #5
I vote for revolution!
2005-08-31, 1:40 PM #6
Originally posted by Ruthven:
yes ours is more expensive, but you know how *I* cope???

i dont buy a friggin car!!!! simple!!!



But you have streets you can walk on. And buses that dont suck. And people that don't mug you, rape you and leave you in a dark alley left for someone to harvest your organs.
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2005-08-31, 1:44 PM #7
Originally posted by fishstickz:
But you have streets you can walk on. And buses that dont suck. And people that don't mug you, rape you and leave you in a dark alley left for someone to harvest your organs.


Buses 75% of the time are 20 minutes late. It goes to 100% at weekends.
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2005-08-31, 2:01 PM #8
Originally posted by Boco:
Buses 75% of the time are 20 minutes late. It goes to 100% at weekends.


That doesnt get around the street and organ harvesting thing.
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2005-08-31, 2:07 PM #9
Originally posted by fishstickz:
That doesnt get around the street and organ harvesting thing.

Oh please...where do you live? I seriously doubt your streets are unsafe to walk. You probably live in a white suburb...yet another example of media hyping making the american public paranoid.
2005-08-31, 2:12 PM #10
Mug, yes. Rape, yes. And a kid went missing about 2 weeks ago 10 miles from where I live before turning up dead in the woods a few days later. AND ENGLAND DOESN'T KNOW A FREAKING THING ABOUT IT. We get plastered with news reports when english kids go missing [As it should be], but you lot get very small columns in the corner of papers [until the kid's body was actually found]. :mad:
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2005-08-31, 2:16 PM #11
[QUOTE=Raoul Duke]Oh please...where do you live? I seriously doubt your streets are unsafe to walk. You probably live in a white suburb...yet another example of media hyping making the american public paranoid.[/QUOTE]

What the hell? I was joking.

And no, the area I live isnt safe. And no, I dont live in the suburbs.
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2005-08-31, 2:18 PM #12
[QUOTE=Raoul Duke]Oh please...where do you live? I seriously doubt your streets are unsafe to walk. You probably live in a white suburb...yet another example of media hyping making the american public paranoid.[/QUOTE]

I live ~23 miles from where I went to school, and 20 miles from where I used to work. I don't know about you, but walking 40 miles a day in 100degree heat and incredible humidity just doesn't appeal to me.

I used past tense since I'm moving in about a week...and I'm not looking forward to putting gas in two cars over 1400 miles. :(
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2005-08-31, 2:44 PM #13
This could all be fixed by the government loosening EPA regulations (which require the production of a bazillion (or 48 or so) different specifications of gas) and maybe some government incentives to build new refineries. GET TO WORK BUSH
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2005-08-31, 2:47 PM #14
I long for a hydrogen fuel cell.
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2005-08-31, 2:49 PM #15
I rather get a hybrid car instead of a hydrogen fuel cell car.
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2005-08-31, 2:52 PM #16
Yeah, from what I hear the Hybrid Civic is pretty good. Then again, I'm kind of biased towards Hondas.
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2005-08-31, 3:16 PM #17
[QUOTE=Raoul Duke]Oh please...where do you live? I seriously doubt your streets are unsafe to walk. You probably live in a white suburb...yet another example of media hyping making the american public paranoid.[/QUOTE]

There are plenty of streets here where I wouldn't walk in broad day light. There are some places in Oakland that the cops won't go unless they go in force. People get mugged around my campus all the time. Sure, not all places are like this, but they exist.
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2005-08-31, 3:42 PM #18
Since gas prices are up, should I start selling my farts on ebay?


...


Ok, that was retarded.
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2005-08-31, 3:44 PM #19
That was worse than retarded.
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2005-08-31, 3:46 PM #20
But I'd probably have some moron wanting to buy. In fact, it's almost guaranteed.
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2005-08-31, 3:51 PM #21
Instead of a car Id prefer to ride that dragon/dog thing from "The never ending story"

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2005-08-31, 5:05 PM #22
FALKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!
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2005-08-31, 5:08 PM #23
I would rather we just switch to ethanol. It's more efficient per gallon, makes more power per volume, and it is *GASP* renewable!
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2005-08-31, 5:28 PM #24
Originally posted by Bill:
I would rather we just switch to ethanol. It's more efficient per gallon, makes more power per volume, and it is *GASP* renewable!


Who do you think we are? Brazilians?
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2005-08-31, 5:29 PM #25
Originally posted by Bill:
I would rather we just switch to ethanol. It's more efficient per gallon, makes more power per volume, and it is *GASP* renewable!


I know there IS a lot of it around...but is there really enough to power our cars like gas does? Eventually there could be of course. But not only that, I think we'd have to redo our engines because even though there's no short term effects, long term effects of pure ethanol used in our current combustion engine will produce corrossion and whatnot. Gasahol seems like a good compromise.
D E A T H
2005-08-31, 5:31 PM #26
Ethanol isn't a fix all. There's the whole matter of growing and processing. At this point it's most promising as a gasoline addative, which will increase the efficiancy of gas.
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2005-08-31, 6:30 PM #27
It's now $2.99 here as of 5 minutes ago.

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2005-08-31, 6:35 PM #28
Originally posted by Avenger:
Ethanol isn't a fix all. There's the whole matter of growing and processing. At this point it's most promising as a gasoline addative, which will increase the efficiancy of gas.

Yes... it's not a fix at all. Cause, you know, we can't produce it in the continental United States and by doing so put thousands of people to work in OUR country while creating a cheaper more efficient gasoline alternative. And Yoshi, yeah, it's not going to work right away, but guess what, it's going to cost you more to pay for gas at these prices in one year than it would to upgrade your engine AND pay for the ethanol.

And in response to the fact that there "isn't enough" ethanol: That's the great thing about ethanol! WE MAKE IT! You don't drill a hole in your back yard and come up with some 'shine. You distill it. And don't tell me we couldn't make enough of it with about as many distilleries as we have oil processing plants. And guess what the best part is! You never run out! Cause guess what! The stuff that we use to create it all grows back!
>>untie shoes
2005-08-31, 6:44 PM #29
http://www.exitmundi.nl/gmfood.htm

Pertinent ;)
D E A T H
2005-08-31, 6:47 PM #30
I'm glad you put the smiley in there, because I would have called you a ****ing idiot.
>>untie shoes
2005-08-31, 6:53 PM #31
Apparently it got to almost $6 at some stations in Atlanta. Druge Report has a picture on the front page.
2005-08-31, 6:57 PM #32
Yeah, I live in GA and it's true on some stations near Atlanta being $5.99 or 6 dollars.

The governor has announced though that they will enforce the law to the fullest extent of their abilities for price gouging on gasoline.

GA got struck with not only the New Orleans problem, but also a pipe or refinery or something busted which is going to cause our gas to spike more.

And GA used to be the cheapest gas in the country. :(

I still can't imagine though - $60 to fill up my car with gas.

Looks like I'll be minimizing my travels for awhile
2005-08-31, 7:03 PM #33
Hybrids are a good idea, but they need a tremendous amount of work to succeed in the long run.

1. Hybrids utilize a MASSIVE battery for their drive systems. Now, as with all batteries, this unit has a finite life, only able to endure a certain amount of charge/discharge until it dies. Replacments start at (the very minimum) $5000, just for the battery itself. For some vehicles, such as the Ford Escape Hybrid, the switch costs around $7200.
2. Testing of hybrids has shown that, in real life driving situations, many hybrid vehicles do not deliver the gas mileage promised by the EPA and manufacturers.
3. In many cases, the price premiums paid on a hybrid will not equal it's savings in gas for at least 5 years.
4. The batteries used within hybrids are incredibly toxic, and a safe disposal method has not been devised.
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2005-08-31, 8:10 PM #34
Originally posted by Boco:
Mug, yes. Rape, yes. And a kid went missing about 2 weeks ago 10 miles from where I live before turning up dead in the woods a few days later. AND ENGLAND DOESN'T KNOW A FREAKING THING ABOUT IT. We get plastered with news reports when english kids go missing [As it should be], but you lot get very small columns in the corner of papers [until the kid's body was actually found]. :mad:


Then again, going on base stereotypes and the prospect of viewing figures, would you rather hear about some Scot kid who was rather a prat, or this angelic Londoner who always went to church and ironed her clothes and such. That's what gets the most coverage anyway. The more it deviates from the pretty girl stereotype, the less likely they are to publically do anything about it. That is one of the reasons I hate the media.

And insert obligatory Brit comment about excessive taxes on goods here, because it's the same one you always hear on these threads. That's why I'm going to be cycling if/when I go to Uni.
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2005-08-31, 8:50 PM #35
Originally posted by Nightwind:
2. Testing of hybrids has shown that, in real life driving situations, many hybrid vehicles do not deliver the gas mileage promised by the EPA and manufacturers.


No car delivers the gas mileage promised by the EPA. But hybrid cars are more efficient than gas only cars, with or without meeting EPA and manufacurers' claims.
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2005-09-01, 3:56 AM #36
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In many cases, the price premiums paid on a hybrid will not equal it's savings in gas for at least 5 years.

that's being nice. i calculated with the sales guy that i would save the difference from a honda hybrid to a handa civic in just over 11 years. 11 ****ing years to save the difference. he lost his sale right there. it was funny to watch him realize it as we started talking cost/month in gas. even at last years prices.

btw, gas was $1.269/L here this morning. that's just under $5/USG. $4/USG taking the exchange into account.
2005-09-01, 6:42 AM #37
Originally posted by oSiRiS:
This could all be fixed by the government loosening EPA regulations (which require the production of a bazillion (or 48 or so) different specifications of gas) and maybe some government incentives to build new refineries. GET TO WORK BUSH


EPA has already lowered the regulations after the hurricane.

As for incentives? HA! The gas companies need to bite the bullet and build their own damn refineries. You know how much money Mobil was making last year? 33% INTEREST! 33 ****ING PERCENT!!!
2005-09-01, 6:49 AM #38
Originally posted by TimeWolfOfThePast:
I long for a hydrogen fuel cell.


Likewise.
2005-09-01, 9:24 AM #39
First off, we've got two topics here. Let's leave the rape for another time, okay?



Secondly, here's my thoughts:

You guys know how (at least in Canada) the government is considering making the Internet a necessity in homes, for students and stuff (like gas / electricity). While there are indeed hybrids now, I can see now that there are quite a few arguments against them. So, it's still a grey area, and for regular cars as well. I vote that gas should be provided by the government should mail each home a prepaid "gas card" with which they could buy a certain amount of gas each month, costing them nothing (In reality, it would be paid for by the taxpayers). Citizens would pay for additional gas, once their annual card has been depleted.


Yes, I'm aware of the obvious flaws in my idea. Don't ***** about them. I like to dream.
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2005-09-01, 10:39 AM #40
Originally posted by Bill:
Yes... it's not a fix at all. Cause, you know, we can't produce it in the continental United States and by doing so put thousands of people to work in OUR country while creating a cheaper more efficient gasoline alternative. And Yoshi, yeah, it's not going to work right away, but guess what, it's going to cost you more to pay for gas at these prices in one year than it would to upgrade your engine AND pay for the ethanol.

And in response to the fact that there "isn't enough" ethanol: That's the great thing about ethanol! WE MAKE IT! You don't drill a hole in your back yard and come up with some 'shine. You distill it. And don't tell me we couldn't make enough of it with about as many distilleries as we have oil processing plants. And guess what the best part is! You never run out! Cause guess what! The stuff that we use to create it all grows back!



I'm aware of how it works, believe me. The process to refine and rpoduce ethanol isn't economical enough yet for it be anything else than a fringe fuel at this time. Also, saying it just grows back is way too simple. As growing plants to produce furl would not only take uop millions on acres of space, but would exhaust the land because intensive growing practices would be needed to grown enough. Also, how keen do you think people will be about using food sourses to produce fuel. The public will never go for it on a lrage scale, at lease right now.

I'm all for alternative fuels and promoting them, but the public is stupid.
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