EXACTLY HIS POINT. He didn't mean you thought the ****in hurricane was his fault, he's merely addressing your ****in IGNORANT stance that Bush is a one man show and any failure of the US government is entirely his fault!!

Of course we were able to send aid to the tsunami victims swiftly. It wasn't an "at-home" disaster, and thus didn't require us to mobilize NEARLY as large a rescue and relief effort as this hurricane has. But that's a logical conclusion, and logic and reason seem to be void here.

[QUOTE=Raoul Duke]That's exactly my point. Your just using Bush as a scapegoat once again. Everyone always goes straight to Bush because he's so damn easy to critize. And he does not have "all the authority". The US has a system of checks and balances...Congress must agree with Bush and vice versa. He's not a goddamn dictator...Get your personal prejudices out of the way and say "THE US GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DOING MORE"...It's always people like you that feel the need to personally fault Bush everytime the government does something bad. It's the popular thing to do of course.[/QUOTE]

When there's an emergency of this scope, the President has emergency powers to act independently of Congress. So, it would be correct to use Bush as a scapegoat.

Bush is an idiot monkey that got re-elected and NOW you guys are finally actually seeing it.

I think we all need to wake up and surrender to the bigger picture. Love eachother, and help eachother as much as possible.

It would be very nice but unfortunately that is never going to happen with humanity.

That doesn't mean you can't do your own part to help out, even if nobody else wants to.

I do my own parts to help out and in some cases at least try to. However, I was more or elss speaking on the other 80% of the world.

Except for some correspondence, I really don't see how the whole hurricane relief thing is in her job description.

Exactly what I was thinking. She's mostly responsible for foreign affairs.

hahah Schming you are too funny...oh wait you aren't joking. I got confused there for a minute.

Okay, so she's shopping for shoes instead of helping the people and we're pissed.

So why don't you guys get off the computer and posting on internet forums and go help them?

So what if she's in a position of power? What the hell is she gonna do? Go there and fly some super jet and lift everyone to safety!!!! No, they weren't letting anyone in because it's dangerous.

Oh and yes, hurricane is Bushes fault. The next time I vote, I'm gonna make sure my president has a good hurricane prevention policy

For some reason, I feel this is needed.

http://www.illwillpress.com/kat.html

LANGUAGE

good

I demand that the Bush administration cool the tropical waters so that no more hurricanes can result from his oil friends causing the tropical waters to (seasonally) heat up.

yes it's sarcasm

That's the worst article title I've seen.

"Hey, Bob. We've got people here who are criticizing the government. We need to make it more controversial. Hey, aren't they all black?"

"Yeah, Jon. But...racism isn't an issue here."

"Maybe not, but we can imply it! Yes!"

That sounds like a Family Guy bit.

I have just uncovered stunning evidence of George Bush's involvement with this Hurricane Katrina.......

First off, as someone mentioned already - Rice is not in charge of 'hurricane management and disaster relief', is she? Nobody else caught the hypocrisy there - a FELLOW SHOPPER criticized Rice for shopping at a time like this - presumably in a place that sells $1000 shoes..am I right so far? If so...why didn't this woman fly her own *** down to New Orleans and help out herself?

Exactly. The fact that people are letting their political bias get in the way of common sense is pretty dumb. The fact that they are using such a terrible disaster to further their own bias and make stupid claims that they can't back is even worse.

You know, I'm sure every one here decided to change their lifestyle in honor of those who are dying. Did you watch TV today? Did you see a movie or a DVD or plan to this weekend? Are you going to drive anywhere? Plan on making any major purchases? Have you played a video game? Have you done anything for pleasure since Katrina hit? If so, have you criticized Condi for buying shoes in this thread?

Yes? Then SHUT UP!

I'm seriously considering donating my time to go help down south, but I have absolutely no idea what I need to do or where to start at finding an organization to sponser me..

I AM MY OWN OPINION'S FUTILE ARGUMENT LATCHING ONTO NATURAL DESASTERS IN AN ATTEMPT TO STRENGTHEN MY WEAK ARGUMENT! FEAR MY LOGIC! INSERT SWEARING. BLAH.

I don't much like Bush, but HOW do you plan for a natural desaster? Oh wait, you can't.

And by the way, Condi is an idiot, but I really don't care how she spends her money. I absolutelly love New Orleans, but I can't afford to send a donation. Where's my godamn news article?

JediKirby

WTF!! If anything, hurricane Katrina was racist. Just another excuse for Jesse Jackson to put himself in front of the camera :/

Souce? Or is that just your opinion? Whether or not you agree with her opinons, if you've seen her interviewed she composes herself well and is knowledgable on what she is questioned on.

She's not perfect, but just cause you don't like someone's opinion or stance on an issue does not mean they're an idiot.

In my mind, you're by far more an idiot with your constant soap opera posts about your life.

Even Bush thinks the government did a poor job handling it, and you know how hesitant he is to ever admit mistakes:
Bush: Katrina Response 'Not Acceptable'





In Rice's defense:

Look up your local Red Cross chapter. They'll get you there.

I just don't like Condi. I don't really like a politician unless s/he's a good speaker, and voices their opinions loud and clear. If I have their opinions on things, even if they don't really follow through [no politican does, I accept this.] I at least have reasons to agree or disagree with them. Condi has no policies, and is just a woman who's black who's in office, who really doesn't have much to her except paperwork and a few public smiles. She's, as someone said, more or less a puppet. I'm not really talking on that big deep conspiracy level, but just as a politician; she's a part of a package, and not really her own diplomat at all. Of course, it'd be bad for her to have ANY opinions, even if they were generally in bush's favor, that weren't in exact agreeance with him. She isn't really a stand alone politican, and thus, I don't have a reason to like her. Thus, an idiot.

I'm just wondering why so many people hung around in a city that could very well have been doomed? I realize that there were a lot of folks that couldn't get out, but with the amount that stayed, I don't for a second buy that even half of that group had little or no choice but to stay. Some people were predicting the whole city would go under if it took the full hit, and who knows, it may have. I just don't get it.
Then there's the conduct of some of these lunatics. The networks are trying very hard to focus on the positives and play up all the wonderful acts of kindness, but then I hear about the tourists who packed their huge gas guzzling SUVs with their own damned luggage instead of people, the unknown idiot who shot at a helicopter (you know, full of people trying to help), the group that held up a supply truck going to a hospital, the people who were rioting instead of making efforts to just get the **** out of the area. After all that, I start to feel less inclined to help these people. Yes, I am a cold, callous *******. At the moment, I'm not feeling too guilty about it.

More to the original topic, I don't know why people have to pay a few hundred for shoes, much less a thousand. The timing doesn't really matter to me, I just don't know why anyone needs to spend that much on shoes. Unbelievable.

Yes, because the extremely poor have the means to evacuate. My family is quite well off, and we had trouble evacuating for a hurricane last year (I live in Florida). We had to care for my 85 year-old grandmother, and it took quite a toll on her. Where are these people supposed to go? A hotel? They can barely pay rent, much less a hotel bill. What are they supposed to eat after they flee, considering that they don't have an income? What percentage of poor people living in major cities own cars? How are they supposed to leave? Plane tickets? Bus tickets?

Then, with gangs and criminals prowling the streets, you point your finger at the entire populous and write them off, lumping the innocent with the guilty. People are starving to death, being raped, being beaten. Of course they get paranoid, of course they don't always act rationally. I don’t condone the actions of those who are doing wrong, but I’m not about to condemn hundreds of thousands of victims. They don't have electricity. They don't have your benefit of seeing what's going on in the news; they can't see the big picture. They are totally isolated. Sitting in a flooded house in the sweltering heat, maybe seeking refuge in the attic, without food, without water, wallowing in their own waste for days with no word of what's going on.

These people are living through absolute hell and you turn your back on them. Unbelievable.

By the way, where do you live? When was the last time you had to hastily evacuate?

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EDIT: WTF?! Who censored 'cue eff tee'?!?!

Sounds to me like somewhere intelligent.

It's censored because a lot of people got sick of people quoting everything someone else says and slapping a Q F T on the end instead of coming up with their own opinion.

Check the link in the very first post.



She's buying shoes that cost $1,000 dollars. Intelligent is not the first word that comes to my mind...

I read the link - and while I myself wouldn't spend that much for shoes - it's her money and she can do what she wants with it.

I guess that's the liberal thinking in ya though. She shouldn't spend the money she has for herself but either give it to those that don't have the money or give it to the government with more taxes.

Ba-zing!

So... the people who get hurt by hurricanes get what's coming to them?

Did you miss that line? I'm not stupid, I understand that there were people who seriously had no choice. But a lot of people just chose to stay for the hell of it, others didn't want to sit through the traffic. These people rolled the dice and lost. Go ahead and help them, but don't throw them a pity party, it was their choice. If they used the brains they claim to have, they wouldn't be there and the relief effort would probably be going much more smoothly.

It's just my being a prick, but I take issue with all those people screaming at the cameras for help, when it doesn't seem like they're doing much to help themselves. If I was stuck in that situation, I would be focused on getting out of it, not asking Bush and Co. to take care of me. But that's just my mindset.



Indiana. No, no hurricanes, no tsunamis, no evacuations, just random tornados that drop in and level houses every now and again. It isn't nearly the same deal, but it is what comes with this territory. Hurricanes come with that territory. Flooding comes with living in a city under the water line. There are risks no matter where you live, understanding them and being prepared for them is a responsibility that comes with it. I'm sorry, but I expect people to take that seriously before the **** hits the fan, not after.

I didn't miss the line; I just think that you are underestimating the number of people unable to get out. But that's a pretty foggy number without any easy way of calculating so I'm not sure it can be proven one way or the other. *shrugs*

I'm not sure exactly what you expect them to do now. Leave on foot through the contaminated streets without food or water? Carry their grandmothers on their backs?



I agree, personal preparation for disasters is very important. However, it is also important at the government level, which is why a lot of people are so pissed. It doesn't seem like the government was properly prepared.

Nah. The people *****in now are the same ones that *****ed before.