Massassi Forums Logo

This is the static archive of the Massassi Forums. The forums are closed indefinitely. Thanks for all the memories!

You can also download Super Old Archived Message Boards from when Massassi first started.

"View" counts are as of the day the forums were archived, and will no longer increase.

☖ Forums → Discussion Forum → Read: I can't stand useless people
123
Read: I can't stand useless people
2005-09-03, 9:02 AM #1
This has never worked in the past, but let's try again.

You will always get people disagreeing with each other in threads, you'll also get people being a bit too hot-headed when it comes to putting forward their argument and dismissing those of other people. These are generally the people who seem to somehow escape any long-term bans.

Some of you go on a thread simply to provoke an argument or to gain pleasure from proving someone else wrong, you have no place here. To be honest the admins don't mind too much if arguments in threads just get a little aggressive, it's when the arguments stop being about the topic and become about scoring points against each other that we have to step in.

Admins are perfectly free to ban people who don't strictly break any of the rules, we might just start banning people for being useless. We might also be a bit less generous when it comes to unbanning people.
Detty. Professional Expert.
Flickr Twitter
2005-09-03, 9:33 AM #2
I vote for banning them
Holy soap opera Batman. - FGR
DARWIN WILL PREVENT THE DOWNFALL OF OUR RACE. - Rob
Free Jin!
2005-09-03, 9:38 AM #3
Praise Detty.
ᵗʰᵉᵇˢᵍ๒ᵍᵐᵃᶥᶫ∙ᶜᵒᵐ
ᴸᶥᵛᵉ ᴼᵑ ᴬᵈᵃᵐ
2005-09-03, 9:40 AM #4
Originally posted by Genki:
I vote for banning them


Win.
2005-09-03, 9:45 AM #5
Good call, how many people have been banned here for this and that, and once unbanned just continue on doing what they did prior to the ban? Too many.

I say! :banned:
Got a permanent feather in my cap;
Got a stretch to my stride;
a stroll to my step;
2005-09-03, 10:04 AM #6
So is this just for the people who start arguments because they can, goad other people into violent rages because the person mentioned earlier thinks it's hilarous, and goes around flaming everyone's project in the showcase even though they've never done any editing and don't know what they're talking about? Because if so, I don't know why their accounts were unbanned in the first place.
2005-09-03, 10:11 AM #7
I like the idea. In all honesty, I really enjoy a good argument, but not flaming, like:



[CONVO]

Max1836: dammm man my Civic is da BAWBM yo

Fred1743: haha u pansy, Civics bite. Honda makin' sum damm bad shizz, man

Max1836: WUT U SAYIN BOUT MA CIVIC B*TCH

Fred1743: roflroflrofl Civic < playskool < Mazda 6

Max1836: u mutha****er! whats the gas mileage on that piece of sh*t tin can u drivin?

Fred1743: uhh.... that aint what YO MAMMA SAID LAS NITE

Max1836 :mad: :mad: :mad:


[/CONVO]


Okay, yes, that's not exactly flaming, but meh. We more sophisticated folks, like myself, enjoy a good, even-sided argument, with proper evidence and such.
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."
2005-09-03, 10:30 AM #8
[QUOTE=Ifrit Zero]So is this just for the people who start arguments because they can, goad other people into violent rages because the person mentioned earlier thinks it's hilarous, and goes around flaming everyone's project in the showcase even though they've never done any editing and don't know what they're talking about? Because if so, I don't know why their accounts were unbanned in the first place.[/QUOTE]

You're sort of putting words into his mouth and extrapolating it. I think Detty's just sick of people attacking eachother and making threads end out.... badly. People bait eachother a LOT now, and it's very specific for a few people [I and detty talked about this a little this morning.]

JediKirby
ᵗʰᵉᵇˢᵍ๒ᵍᵐᵃᶥᶫ∙ᶜᵒᵐ
ᴸᶥᵛᵉ ᴼᵑ ᴬᵈᵃᵐ
2005-09-03, 10:36 AM #9
bring back the ban list!
2005-09-03, 10:40 AM #10
Now, for example, the kind of arguments I enjoy are those like the one I caused, in the "Speed of light sped up!" thread. Basically, people keep throwing one point at eachother after another, until someone just runs out of knowledge. That turned out to be me, but I had a lot of fun doing it. Kind of like turning a "death spiral" into "extreme skydiving"!
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."
2005-09-03, 10:41 AM #11
I guess this means we'll be saying bye to Detty.

:em321:
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2005-09-03, 10:58 AM #12
*waves*
Detty. Professional Expert.
Flickr Twitter
2005-09-03, 11:10 AM #13
if 2 people had a dispute, they shoudl have a deathmatch in canyon oasis, best 3 out of 5.

The winner is correct, the loser is wrong, and banned :D
Code:
if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}
2005-09-03, 11:20 AM #14
Originally posted by Ruthven:
if 2 people had a dispute, they shoudl have a deathmatch in canyon oasis, best 3 out of 5.

The winner is correct, the loser is wrong, and banned :D




Fred: 2+2=5!!!!

Max: You're stupid, I challenge you to a duel! *slap*

*lightsaber noises*

Max: Gahhh I am killed 3 times out of 5!

Fred: Woot! You can take your laws of reality and shove 'em up your @$$!
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."
2005-09-03, 12:15 PM #15
Originally posted by Ruthven:
if 2 people had a dispute, they shoudl have a deathmatch in canyon oasis, best 3 out of 5.

The winner is correct, the loser is wrong, and banned :D


<3
2005-09-03, 12:21 PM #16
Originally posted by Genki:
I vote for banning them

i concur
2005-09-03, 2:30 PM #17
[QUOTE=Mr. Stafford]bring back the ban list![/QUOTE]

QFWIWTITTHOM.
Hey, Blue? I'm loving the things you do. From the very first time, the fight you fight for will always be mine.
2005-09-03, 3:48 PM #18
Uh, whats your definition of useless? I think this thread is pretty useless. ban it.
In Tribute to Adam Sliger. Rest in Peace

10/7/85 - 12/9/03
2005-09-03, 5:41 PM #19
i say that the admins appoint a board of six massassians(sp) they can be admins or otherwise and if four out of six agree on any one idividuals uselessness they are banned, unless this is a useless idea in which case i did not come up with it....
Welcome to the douchebag club. We'd give you some cookies, but some douche ate all of them. -Rob
2005-09-03, 8:28 PM #20
Originally posted by Darth_Alran:
i say that the admins appoint a board of six massassians(sp) they can be admins or otherwise and if four out of six agree on any one idividuals uselessness they are banned, unless this is a useless idea in which case i did not come up with it....


Democracy here at Massassi?

Bwhahaha
SnailIracing:n(500tpostshpereline)pants
-----------------------------@%
2005-09-03, 8:43 PM #21
how about instead of that, they ban a certain four massassians, whom i will not name because i don't need to.
2005-09-03, 9:48 PM #22
There are four? PM me >.> <.<
ᵗʰᵉᵇˢᵍ๒ᵍᵐᵃᶥᶫ∙ᶜᵒᵐ
ᴸᶥᵛᵉ ᴼᵑ ᴬᵈᵃᵐ
2005-09-03, 11:25 PM #23
Aye. Ban 'em all and let god sort 'em out. Like the forum mercenaries used to say...
Frozen in the past by ICARUS
2005-09-03, 11:27 PM #24
This will ruin my "Still going on?" plans.

Bloody hell.
Star Wars: TODOA | DXN - Deus Ex: Nihilum
2005-09-03, 11:44 PM #25
edit - nm, not worth it
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-09-04, 2:57 AM #26
Bloody 'ell I didn't notice this sticky until this morning!

/Agrees with Spe
2005-09-04, 5:18 AM #27
ban & burn :banned:
$do || ! $do ; try
try: command not found
Ye Olde Galactic Empire Mission Editor (X-wing, TIE, XvT/BoP, XWA)
2005-09-04, 6:50 AM #28
ha ha ha...

I agree with this (and I know it doesn't matter either way) just as long as we suddenly don't have strict 'rules' for arguing. Any discussion will have to have various pieces of evidence that must be meticulously gathered otherwise they'll be shot down (very politely, mind you) by scores of well-documented counter-evidence. This might work well in a scientific thread, but just wait until people expect it to happen in more abstract threads, like human rights, religion, the arts, and post your desktop.
Cordially,
Lord Tiberius Grismath
1473 for '1337' posts.
2005-09-04, 8:00 AM #29
^^^Grismath brings up some well-thought out and valid points.^^^
My JK Level Design | 2005 JK Hub Level Pack (Plexus) | Massassi Levels
2005-09-04, 9:07 AM #30
You're sort of making more out of it than Detty intended. It's just annoying to have the 3rd page of the argument to have posts in it which could apply to ANY topic at ALL. No editing of key words is needed. Not to mention, SOME of our forum regulars like to bait people into attacking them, which ends up in blunt flamewars.
ᵗʰᵉᵇˢᵍ๒ᵍᵐᵃᶥᶫ∙ᶜᵒᵐ
ᴸᶥᵛᵉ ᴼᵑ ᴬᵈᵃᵐ
2005-09-04, 9:52 AM #31
Originally posted by Darth_Alran:
i say that the admins appoint a board of six massassians(sp) they can be admins or otherwise and if four out of six agree on any one idividuals uselessness they are banned, unless this is a useless idea in which case i did not come up with it....


I don't think that "useless" is the right word. Most of us don't actually contribute to the website (helping to build on the html, designing stuff [Brain's jobs, etc]). There are lot's of folks who come in and say "useless" stuff, (no offense to the following threads) such as a pet dying, or wondering how the weekend was. Not that I don't enjoy reading those threads, of course. The point is that it's mostly useless stuff that make this place very interesting.
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."
2005-09-04, 9:59 AM #32
I think you guys are misinterpreting "useless" A useless post would be "OMG COOL!!!" on a thread about a dying dog, something that just doesn't fit with the topic at all or is being used as flamebait.
Sam: "Sir we can't call it 'The Enterprise'"
Jack: "Why not!"
2005-09-04, 10:04 AM #33
Yeah, same with de-railing a thread or just plain spamming.

But then again, it depends on personal opinion. Perhaps the poster in question simply admires death and can't wait until it's his turn.
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."
2005-09-04, 3:05 PM #34
It's left vague because as soon as things are clearly defined, people will find ways to exploit them.
Detty. Professional Expert.
Flickr Twitter
2005-09-04, 4:55 PM #35
Quote:
I think you guys are misinterpreting "useless" A useless post would be "OMG COOL!!!" on a thread about a dying dog, something that just doesn't fit with the topic at all or is being used as flamebait.


Or someone posting on a dead fish thread about how they are glad the fish is dead >.>...for example... <.<
Think while it's still legal.
2005-09-04, 6:52 PM #36
Awesome!
2005-09-04, 9:47 PM #37
Forget bans. I vote for random explosions.

[http://imagecorner.sorrowind.net/290/8.gif]
Catloaf, meet mouseloaf.
My music
2005-09-05, 8:49 AM #38
Originally posted by DogSRoOL:
Forget bans. I vote for random explosions.

[http://imagecorner.sorrowind.net/290/8.gif]


Forget random explosions! I vote we use the server to reprogram offenders' DNA via the radiation emitted from their computer screen!!! :D

Anybody get the reference?
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."
2005-09-05, 9:37 AM #39
See, I would consider /\ above a useless post and thus he should be banned for saying something stupid like that
2005-09-05, 11:46 AM #40
Than you're really not seeing the point. Just because you don't find it useful doesn't mean it doesn't help the situation. It's not a negative post, nor is it a post to flame bait anyone else. In fact, your post is more similar to the sort of useless thing I see at massassi daily. "someone elses post is dumb and stupid and wrong hahaha"
ᵗʰᵉᵇˢᵍ๒ᵍᵐᵃᶥᶫ∙ᶜᵒᵐ
ᴸᶥᵛᵉ ᴼᵑ ᴬᵈᵃᵐ
123

↑ Up to the top!