Your probably right. Personally, I hope they max out the punishment not only to you guys but the idiot accomplice bus driver as well.

You are ****ing insane Wookie.

There's a lot of abnormal things about me



As I alraedy pointed out earlier, No.

Spork - Ouch. just...ouch..

Ooh, predict their punishment!

I predict 10 days out-of-school suspension.

How so? I believe the punishment should be severe and I also believe that an adult that should conduct himself as an authority figure is sadly lacking in judgement and mental facilities.

It's not like this is an occasional mooning. This seems to be a perverse fixation of theirs. If it was a rare occurence I wouldn't suggest extreme punishment and my guess is their repeated acts are what have led them to the situation they find themselves in.

What? That last bit doesn't make any sense. Why severe? Are you kidding? I'm sorry that you're so prudent to even view it as anything other than a harmless joke. I could imagine you could think so if we went and pantsed some kid, or did anything to even suggest a real harm to another. But really, where you beat up and pantsed as a kid? Never went out with your friends and had an obnoxiously fun time, just for laughs that never harmed anyone? The kid everyone mooned? What?



A PERVERTED FIXATION? Yeah, a few times, haha, whoohoo! What's your deal? Yeah, I go and moon people because I go home and masturbate about it that night. Nothing turns me on more than the (laughing) expression on their faces. Really, go out and have some fun for once.

The bus driver? Yes, like he came up and said "Hey guys, look at those kids, wouldn't you just want to moon them?!" Jesus.

And now for the obligatory:

Quoted For Truth.

Hi, my first post so this is a cherry popper.

I am the accomplice in this mooning affair, and i can honestly say that Wookie, you are definately mistaken on this. Our pranks are harmless in this case, we knew most of the kids being mooned, the only one to take offence wa he driver who did not even see the anality himself.

Considering that the school's reaction is only so extreme due to the public nature of this and its damage to their reputation. A kid was suspened for three days no long lasting repurcussions for drinking, driving to school drunk, drinking with freshmen in school and driving away drunk. If thats not childish what the **** is? Dont get me wrong, drinking is fun, but how do we deserve the same punishment as this guy. it just doesnt fit

As far as i can tell all we did was have an innocent joke, stupid maybe, but still nothing lasting or harmful. SO why should we recieve a lasting and harmful punsihment. Punish us fine, but at least try to make the punishment fit the crime.

But don't you see? They are making the punishment fit the crime. The crime was highly amusing to you guys, so the school decided to come up with a ridiculously outrageous punishment for their own amusement. It's pure comic genius in my book.

Sorry if I have misunderstood the situation but it is purely the fault of your immature friend as I will illustrate below.



Sorry if it interfeers with your fantasy but no "pantsed" victim here. Mooned? Honestly don't remember.



Hey, you're the one that said: "So like every other day, riding the bus home with my same friend, we decide "Hey, here comes a schoolbus full of kids, lets moon them, perfect opportunity". So we do, everyone laughs, even on the opposing bus (why shouldn't they?). We moon another bus, same thing happened, and we also moon an old lady who didn't seem to notice.

Like I said, you're the one that said you expose yourself every other day. You're a freaking pervert if you feel the need to do so and, assuming that you actually do what you say you do, that's probably why someone fed up with your activity finally reported it.

Trust me, when I expose myself I probably have much more fun than you can imagine.



Oh, guess you missed it when you posted: "Anyhow, getting off the bus, saying my goodbye's to the busdriver ( he's a good friend, known him for years, even pulls up next to buses so we can moon them)"



Oh, yeah, you so totally owned me.

[QUOTE=Darth J]But don't you see? They are making the punishment fit the crime. The crime was highly amusing to you guys, so the school decided to come up with a ridiculously outrageous punishment for their own amusement. It's pure comic genius in my book.[/QUOTE]
Except mooning doesn't hurt anyone. Suspension from school for 10 days could honestly jeopardize a kid's future. if you have 5 classes a day thats 50 classes missed in total! It could push the kid so far behind that he feels overwhelmed and ends up failing everything, drops out of school and starts smoking crack. Well maybe not that bad but you get the idea. If anything they should be subject to a school wide mooning.

Don't mind wookie. He's just the resident conservative who thinks everything slightly obscene will destroy our generation. I feel sorry for his kids, probably treated like objects instead of people. I, unfortunately, have experience with a parent like that.

But if I put up only my middle finger, it is just an upward pointing finger. But there is an offensive message behind it. An a** is an a**, but to there person who receives the act, he/she probably thinks you are sending a bad, disrespectful message. Would you "give the finger" instead of mooning? Probably not, but the same message, to the people who saw this action, could still be there.

[QUOTE=Raoul Duke]Except mooning doesn't hurt anyone. Suspension from school for 10 days could honestly jeopardize a kid's future. if you have 5 classes a day thats 50 classes missed in total! It could push the kid so far behind that he feels overwhelmed and ends up failing everything, drops out of school and starts smoking crack. Well maybe not that bad but you get the idea. If anything they should be subject to a school wide mooning.[/QUOTE]

As rare as this happens, I'm agreeing with Raoul. I have a friend who dropped out because he got 14 days of out of school and just knew he couldn't catch up. He was a mediocre student at best as it was. Sad, because he was an awesome kid and had a lot of potential.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Don't mind wookie. He's just the resident conservative who thinks everything slightly obscene will destroy our generation. I feel sorry for his kids, probably treated like objects instead of people. I, unfortunately, have experience with a parent like that.[/QUOTE]

Funny that I had actually really come to respect you over the past few months. Too bad that your total misunderstanding of me and "compassion" for my kids has done much to diminish that. As I accurately stated above, my opinion was derived from his first moronic post which he doesn't even seem to remember making. Just look at the comparisons. For example, he said the stupid bus driver would pull next to other busses so they could moon them and now he says something to the effect that it's not like he does that.

His stupidity doesn't really bother me but your comments do. Not to mention they are stupendously inaccurate.

Sorry you have a lousy parent.

Listen, I agree it should be punished. Trust me. But severely? This is the kind of thing that messes up a guy's life, getting expelled, suspended for long bouts at a time, etc. A few days of OSS, a few days of ISS, and detention for a month. That's what I'd give the kid. It wouldn't be TOO severe, it'd still allow for him to catch up, realize what he did was wrong, hopefully not do it ever again. I don't think you realize just what even 10 days of OSS can entail. You forget that for every day of OSS you get zeros in every class. There's a 110% chance you have a test in at least ONE class, if not more, during that time. Probably miss around 3 or 4, maybe 5 or 6 tests depending on how your classes are scheduled. That's ridiculous. That kind of thing plummets your grade below where it can be brought up, no matter how much extra credit is given.

Honestly, your post just pissed me off and maybe I crossed the line talking about your parenting, but you remind me so much of my last set of parents that didn't realize I was a human being.

But considering the only reason you've 'respected' me over the last few months is because my viewpoints reflect a more conservative leaning on most of the issues recently discussed...well I don't want nor need your respect. If you can't respect my liberal views as well as my conservative ones, I'd rather have no respect from you at all.

[QUOTE=Raoul Duke] If anything they should be subject to a school wide mooning.[/QUOTE]

Hey, if there were hot girls there, I'd like that. :p (No I don't mind girls' asses at all, unlike guys'. :p)

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]But considering the only reason you've 'respected' me over the last few months is because my viewpoints reflect a more conservative leaning on most of the issues recently discussed...well I don't want nor need your respect. If you can't respect my liberal views as well as my conservative ones, I'd rather have no respect from you at all.[/QUOTE]

How ironic that I was recently going to praise your open mindedness towards issues when I KNOW you generally fall on the other side of the political spectrum. It wasn't about whether or not you had conservative opinions. For example, you might not agree with a persons views but you would denounce baseless, political attacks against them.

And I would say your opinion of punishment is nearly severe enough although I would prefer more suspension. The kid says he mooned people every other day for christ's sake. The bus driver, assuming the kid isn't lying, should be terminated.

Oh, and if you don't want my respect, don't worry.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]But considering the only reason you've 'respected' me over the last few months is because my viewpoints reflect a more conservative leaning on most of the issues recently discussed...well I don't want nor need your respect. If you can't respect my liberal views as well as my conservative ones, I'd rather have no respect from you at all.[/QUOTE]
SO ****ING TRUE. Dead on man dead on.

Oi, if that were true, I wouldn't be constantly engaged in heated political battles with him.. :p which is odd, because I remember a long time a go a time when we generally agreed on most things.

[QUOTE=Raoul Duke]SO ****ING TRUE. Dead on man dead on.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, read my response to him.

Let's see, he suddenly joins a conversation to (surprising to me) insult me. He didn't substantively disagree with me. I'd been happy that he was a much friendlier, rational person lately. I was honestly disappointed to see the return of, what I suppose is, the real Dj Yoshi.

ZEIG HEIL!

We still do. But you jump on me for the way I disagree...which is in and of itself disingenuous of you to act considering your own actions against most who do disagree with you.

Um, okay.

Now THAT'S a 14 year old kid flamebaiting. At least I had the effing decency to argue instead of instantly invoking Godwin's Law.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]We still do. But you jump on me for the way I disagree...which is in and of itself disingenuous of you to act considering your own actions against most who do disagree with you.[/QUOTE]

That's kind of scrambled and hard to understand. Are you saying I treat you worse than the other people who disagree with me?

Yes.

I'm surprised nobody's said thisyet..



Asses are sexy.

That was in the sense of "Riding home on the bus like every other day", not "mooning people on the bus like every other day"


Also, meant in the sense as my dear friend said, that he was unaware of the actual act taking place. It was more of a sense of "pull up next to this bus, a few of our friends are on it". And as I said before not "Hey guys, look at those kids, wouldn't you just want to moon them?", theres a different between egging it on and telling someone to do it, than to be unaware of the action.



I was just retorting my argument. I don't go for cheap thrills, especially "owning" people. :-P

I'm sorry if you took my post as offensive, as you said, it's easy to misunderstand things.

Put yourself in my position, really, not your morals, views on how to get a point across, whatever. For a completely common and harmless prank, with no ill intention what-so-ever, would you think anything more than even a day suspension is justified? Would you really want that yourself? Or do you think it would out of proportion with the crime?

When you do something you know is wrong in school, swearing, cheating, getting caught with pot, drinking, whatever, you have a clear idea that what you were doing was wrong. There was an obvious intent that is clearly not very justified in any moral or maybe even legal standpoint. You know what you did was wrong, you accept the consequences, right?

But really, what about this? Sure we knew it was not really what we were supposed to be doing, but it was essentially victimless. It was a prank probobly no more harming than swearing at another student, or getting in any sort of verbal fight. Not even that, that to my perspective is stretching it. So when all of a sudden theres talk of suspension and possibly expulsion, wouldn't you feel as if it wasn't fitting of the crime?

When you're a young child, showing your bum in public is cute, adorable even.
When you're a teenager, it's a violation and an offense.
When you're an adult, it's illegal and you'll probably be fined.
When you're an elderly person, they put you in the home.

Rules change as skin changes. Sad fact of life.

I honestly don't know what to think about your situation. You first made it sound like you did it all the time and now it's some unknown variable of a few times. Nobody here can really form an accurate opinion because your posts don't make a lot of sense. How about a simple question: how many times have you engaged in this activity while on your school bus?

Wookie, you're just bitter because you have a fat, hairy, wrinkly ***.

It's not wrinkly.

Yet.

.

This thread is worthless without pics.

Suspension-worthy? I wouldn't suspend you for it, but if they hit you with a day or two, man up and serve your sentence with pride. Any more than that, and I'd say they're overreacting.

Random Note: A year ago today, I and some of my friends lined up and mooned a departing train from the platform. It was quality.

Absolutely ridiculous. Mooning is totally innocent. People wouldn't even blink over here. I don't understand America.

Then stay out.

I'd say that a week or two of detention (as this seems to be a repeat offense) would be suitable, with incrementing levels of punishment for further repeat offenses. But, that's me.

Assuming that this isn't more than the third time (that you've been caught/reported), out-of-school suspension seems a wee bit drastic. I'd say that OOS would be suitable for the next time it happens, though no more than a few days.

Only two were reported, that was in the same day, and the only time we've ever been caught. Now, I'm not going to go say that I haven't mooned anyone previously to that experience while not on the bus, but the two reported were theonly ones we've done on the bus.

Anyway, sentencing was today. Actually, they themselves felt it was being blown out of proportion to what it actually was. I think they just might have needed those few days to let it "blow over", and really look at what happened. Initially we were going to be suspended, but they felt that it was too harsh for the crime, and that it'd look a lot worse on our college apps if we were put with a suspension senior year. We didn't even get ISS, or any real school-given punishment. All we have to do is not take the bus for a month, kind of anti-climactic isn't it? And at this point it doesn't really matter because the fall production is starting anyway, so we'll be driving.

Good thats over

...a fine example of American hospitality.

I respect a country's laws when I visit it. That doesn't mean I have to understand it.