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How many of you would consider a prenup?
2005-10-27, 10:57 PM #1
I would definitely insist on a prenup when the time comes. (to protect myself further, I would also place my most valuable assets in a holding corporation that is directly under my control, and no one elses) To get married w/o a prenup is by far one of the stupidest things a man can do in this day and age, b/c a prenup offers legal protection that may save a newly divorced man from having his bones picked clean in divorce court.

I've known guys who have gotten married and then divorced a few years later, and after the court gets done with them their lives are a terrible mess. The courts (which tend to be biased towards women) have stripped them of their kids, their assets, and nearly everything else they have of value, and then gives these things to an ex-wife who simply does not deserve them.

Now, both partners should have their needs taken care of in the event of divorce, and a prenup is supposed to ensure this. Lately, I've noticed a disturbing trend where some conniving b**** of a woman ensnares some guy, and then turns around and legally fleeces him out of most of what he owns in court a few years later. What's worse is that they ENJOY doing it, its like a sport to them. Marriage unfortunately has become one-sided-- women have everything to gain from it and men have everything to lose. Fortunately, a lot of men out there are starting to get wise to this and they are going out of their way to avoid marriage.

What would you do? Vote and post your reasoning.
2005-10-27, 11:00 PM #2
No way! We're in LOVE, and we're going to be married FOREVER! I can't believe you would say that! I'll never speak to you again!

:p
2005-10-27, 11:00 PM #3
...

I don't know...there just aren't any words for this post (yet.)
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2005-10-27, 11:03 PM #4
Marriage is gay.
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2005-10-27, 11:14 PM #5
I think I would,

If we are in Love and going to be togather forever it won't ever matter,

and if we don't last forever I'm covered...
2005-10-27, 11:14 PM #6
Originally posted by FastGamerr:
Marriage is gay.


yeah totally whats with that
2005-10-27, 11:27 PM #7
Why marry someone you cant even trust..?

o.0
2005-10-27, 11:35 PM #8
...what the hell is a prenup?
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" โ€” Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-10-27, 11:37 PM #9
Originally posted by Freelancer:
...what the hell is a prenup?


Prenup = prenuptial agreement.

It's a legal contract stating who gets what in the event of a divorce.
2005-10-27, 11:44 PM #10
Newly weds usually don't have much to their name... what would the agreement cover? Who gets to keep the TV? Maybe I'm just not too familiar with the concept...
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2005-10-27, 11:52 PM #11
Prenuptual agreements set bad precedence. To me, they sound like you're almost expecting a divorce in the future. If that is the case, why get married at all. Save us the trouble and cost. Counterargument is that I can see how they would save a ****storm should a divorce entail. I wouldn't go for one. Me, I would make sure that I'm damn well certain that I wish to marry woman of choice and not just marry someone then have it fall apart and just chock it up to the courts to deal with it. All about personal responsibility.
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2005-10-28, 12:32 AM #12
Originally posted by Fardreamer:
Newly weds usually don't have much to their name... what would the agreement cover? Who gets to keep the TV? Maybe I'm just not too familiar with the concept...



the prenup would generally cover child custody, and valuable asset items such as good stocks, real estate, bonds, businesses, etc. It might also cover valuable liability items such as cars and furniture.

The assets are what need to be protected most---losing a few income-producing assets in a divorce could be financially devastating.
2005-10-28, 12:35 AM #13
I agree with JG.
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2005-10-28, 12:37 AM #14
Originally posted by JediGandalf:
Prenuptual agreements set bad precedence. To me, they sound like you're almost expecting a divorce in the future. If that is the case, why get married at all.



It helps to look at it like insurance. After all, you buy insurance for various things in the hope you will never need it, but it's still good to have in the event of an emergency. You don't expect your house to burn down or to total your car, but if or when it happens its good to be covered. A prenup is like divorce insurance.

You actually get a better deal with a prenup b/c its easier to work out a fair deal when both partners love each other and there are no negative issues. In a divorce courtroom, the thing on each partner's mind is how to screw the other partner out of as much as they can, and there is no love involved, in fact quite the opposite. That's hardly the best and most fair way to divide possessions.
2005-10-28, 12:38 AM #15
Originally posted by Pagewizard_YKS:
the prenup would generally cover child custody, and valuable asset items such as good stocks, real estate, bonds, businesses, etc. It might also cover valuable liability items such as cars and furniture.

The assets are what need to be protected most---losing a few income-producing assets in a divorce could be financially devastating.


So you're saying it covers hypothetical posessions, businesses and children? How the hell do you decide who gets what child? Especially if you don't know how many you're going to have at the time of divorce?
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" โ€” Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-10-28, 12:45 AM #16
Originally posted by Freelancer:
So you're saying it covers hypothetical posessions, businesses and children? How the hell do you decide who gets what child? Especially if you don't know how many you're going to have at the time of divorce?


You have the prenup cover things (primarily assets) you

1. Have at the time of marriage.

2. Accumulate during marriage.


(prenups can be revised and updated after marriage to reflect an improved financial situation.)
2005-10-28, 1:15 AM #17
I definitely support it, granted it may sound bad to plan for something like that but what does it really hurt? **** happens and people change, you can't predict that your marriage will go on and it's wishy-washy to think "oh we're in love, nothing can happen."

Personally, I see it as a way to strengthen the trust that neither partner will become scum and just part ways instead of making some long-running hellish situation. You can just say it's over, grab your stuff and leave with no bull****.
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2005-10-28, 1:26 AM #18
**** I voted wrong. I would want one.
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2005-10-28, 2:19 AM #19
hmm... well I guess it's a step up that page is at least considering marraige. :|
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2005-10-28, 4:03 AM #20
Here's my pre-nup.

I keep all my ****, the bi*** gets NOTHING!
Code:
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2005-10-28, 5:21 AM #21
Only if the babe I was getting hitched to was an obvious gold digger.


Otherwise, (and since I would never marry a gold digger anyway) HELL NO. It places seeds of distrust and strife in the marriage, which could lead to a divorce.
And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.
2005-10-28, 5:32 AM #22
I don't know; I've never really thought about it.
Stuff
2005-10-28, 6:14 AM #23
Prenups imply that you have no trust in the relationship. Basically, you are giving up before you start.

So, I say, hell no.
2005-10-28, 6:24 AM #24
I voted no, because I've been married 13 years, and we didn't do a prenup.
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2005-10-28, 7:36 AM #25
Yeah, prenups do instill a degree of distrust, but then again, why oppose it? Wouldn't you want to look into the best future interests of each other, as you love each other?
2005-10-28, 7:58 AM #26
I won't be marying anyone who would divorce me later.
2005-10-28, 8:01 AM #27
I can honestly say I'm not sure. Would I propose that we get a pre-nup? Probably not. Would I reject a proposal? Well, I can't honestly say yay or nay, as I've never been in that kind of a situation, and I'm sure that my perspective would change by that time.
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2005-10-28, 8:32 AM #28
Prenups are the epitomy of the materialistic world we live in. Excepting maybe child custody, they are only about material wealth, the things that we own that we need to define who we are. Love and marriage shouldnt be about that at all.

"It's only when you've lost everything that you're free to do anything."
2005-10-28, 9:02 AM #29
I would never sign a prenup.

Mainly because underwear models make good money, so when the immoral skank inevitably divorces me I'll want a shot at her riches.
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2005-10-28, 11:06 AM #30
Most people who get married then divorced dont think about the marriage before hand. If the two people involved are truely meant to be together there is no need for a prenup because there will be no divorce.

too many people are getting married without thinking. they meet and 6 mothns later they're married. its rediculous. there should be at LEAST two years before a marriage is PROPOSED(and by this i mean the idea brought up in conversation, and seriously thought about; not the whole "will you marry me" formal thing), let alone the act.

whatever the case with other people, i for on will take responsability for my action into marriage, and will take the words "Death do us part" very seriously.

while i agree that divorce is sometimes the best option for certain people, it should only be used as a last resort. Other efforts should be made first.
My girlfriend paid a lot of money for that tv; I want to watch ALL OF IT. - JM
2005-10-28, 11:13 AM #31
Originally posted by Pagewizard_YKS:
It helps to look at it like insurance. After all, you buy insurance for various things in the hope you will never need it, but it's still good to have in the event of an emergency. You don't expect your house to burn down or to total your car, but if or when it happens its good to be covered. A prenup is like divorce insurance.


Except insurance protects you against accidents and such. Divorces aren't accidents.
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2005-10-28, 11:15 AM #32
whatever happened to "till death do us part"?
free(jin);
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2005-10-28, 11:23 AM #33
You get other women in afterlife. Oh lolz.
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2005-10-28, 11:32 AM #34
badum psh*
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2005-10-28, 11:38 AM #35
There's a LOT of naive people here. I thought we were past that these days.

That said, I would not marry the girl if she didn't agree to a prenup. She could go **** herself
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" โ€” Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-10-28, 11:41 AM #36
You're all never getting married (or just those who voted 'yes.')
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2005-10-28, 12:08 PM #37
Originally posted by Freelancer:
There's a LOT of naive people here. I thought we were past that these days.

What days? The days were people got married and meant it?
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2005-10-28, 12:14 PM #38
Originally posted by DSettahr:
Prenups are the epitomy of the materialistic world we live in. Excepting maybe child custody, they are only about material wealth, the things that we own that we need to define who we are. Love and marriage shouldnt be about that at all.

"It's only when you've lost everything that you're free to do anything."

Well put :)
2005-10-28, 12:17 PM #39
If you're worried about losing all your **** in a divorce, then fix the way the divorce courts works, don't add paperwork that gives the lawyers even more job security.
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2005-10-28, 12:19 PM #40
Originally posted by Freelancer:
There's a LOT of naive people here. I thought we were past that these days.

That said, I would not marry the girl if she didn't agree to a prenup. She could go **** herself


Right. Easy to say now. Quite different when you need to sit down with the person you (presumably) love more than anyone else in the world and have decided to spend your life with, and then proceed to plan your divorce down to the smallest detai.l Before you're even married.

I think the hardest issue is just bringing it up in the first place.
Dreams of a dreamer from afar to a fardreamer.
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