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Full Metal Headset.
2005-11-14, 9:21 AM #41
Originally posted by Jon`C:
No, I'm pissed off because you people don't read anything before replying.


I read. You just don't know what the **** you're talking about. If you think BOSE makes the best noise-canceling headphones available (sorry, AT THE TIME YOU BOUGHT THEM), then you're very misinformed.


Quote:
On certain better forums you would have been banned instantly.


Hardly.
2005-11-14, 9:23 AM #42
I read what you wrote, and I understood that, according to you, the QC2 was your best option.

Personally, I would rather have something that sounds decent instead of specialized noise cancelling. The QC2's frequency response is horrid, it's like a nasty, booming sufwoofer in your ear. Compare that to the Beyerdynamic DT 880, which retails for a similar price and can be had for around $225. Yes, they're open, but the point is that QC2s are a total ripoff. Even measly $15 Koss KSC75s sound better.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2005-11-14, 9:27 AM #43
Originally posted by Emon:
The QC2's frequency response is horrid, it's like a nasty, booming sufwoofer in your ear.


Holy ****, that IS terrible. :eek:
2005-11-14, 9:29 AM #44
Compare to the Koss PortaPro, which uses the same drivers as the KSC75 (thus sounds largely the same, the enclosure changes it a little). And the KSC75s retail for $20.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2005-11-14, 9:41 AM #45
Oh look, you're still having a seizure about sound quality.

Okay:

1.) I did my research when these headphones came out. I tried the Sennheisers, because you - in particular - recommended the brand to me and they made the pair I had before. They were not good at noise-cancelling. They crackled and had a noticeable hissing sound. I believe this was right before a product refresh - I know the QC2 were brand new, and they had a different mic in each ear to pick up the ambient noise as opposed to a single one located on the cord.

2.) You are not the only one who can look at impedance graphs and say "hurr these are better" - not that it's a very good way to judge the quality of any speaker system, but I'll humor you there. I'm fully capable of doing a google search for "best headphones", and it looks like that's what you did for your first choice in this thread.

3.) The constant exposure to loud, painful white noise was - and still is - affecting my ability to hear. If I had purchased some sound quality circle **** pair of cans that you're trying to push on me, I would now be deaf. Ergo, I would not be able to appreciate the improved sound quality, not that I would be able to hear them over this white noise.

Emon, you're entitled to your opinion, but you have absolutely no right to try to dictate to me what my needs are or how much something is worth to me. And one breath after telling me how my headphones are "overpriced" you tell me to buy a $20 pair of headphones -- like I can't afford or wouldn't want something more expensive. lol. Get lost.


Shintock: I don't think you know which "better forums" I'm talking about, but they aren't on Sennheiserfans.com
2005-11-14, 9:44 AM #46
Originally posted by Jon`C:
You are not the only one who can look at impedance graphs and say "hurr these are better"


Ok, now I KNOW you don't know what you're talking about. Those graphs show frequency response, dB vs. Hz. Show me impedance mesured in anything other than ohms, and I'll eat my hat.

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Shintock: I don't think you know which "better forums" I'm talking about, but they aren't on Sennheiserfans.com


OMG THAT WAS SO WITTY THAT I FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING
2005-11-14, 9:49 AM #47
Originally posted by Shintock:
Ok, now I KNOW you don't know what you're talking about. Those graphs show frequency response, dB vs. Hz. Show me impedance mesured in anything other than ohms, and I'll eat my hat.
I was being facetious.

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OMG THAT WAS SO WITTY THAT I FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING
I wasn't trying to amuse you, I'm trying to point out that you're being a gigantic dick. Nice job trolling though, buddy.
2005-11-14, 9:49 AM #48
[http://necropimp.home.insightbb.com/clampphone.jpg]

they do their job and they do it well enough for my current needs
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2005-11-14, 9:51 AM #49
Originally posted by Jon`C:
I was being facetious.
I wasn't trying to amuse you, I'm trying to point out that you're being a gigantic dick. Nice job trolling though, buddy.


On better forums that would get you banned.

:rolleyes:
2005-11-14, 10:05 AM #50
[http://www.boomspeed.com/hellquin/tin_can_string.jpg]
2005-11-14, 10:14 AM #51
A headphone flame war... :rolleyes:
2005-11-14, 10:15 AM #52
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
A headphone flame war... :rolleyes:


Says the guy who thought woofer and sub-woofer speakers were the same thing. :p
2005-11-14, 10:18 AM #53
And lo, the trumpets sounded, and the fifth seal was broken, and from it there came a flamewar of massive proportions, dealing primarily with heaphones, much to the bemusement of the 99.99% of the population that still listen to 128k mp3s.
Stuff
2005-11-14, 11:11 AM #54
Originally posted by kyle90:
. . . of the population that still listen to 128k mp3s.


That's me!
2005-11-14, 7:26 PM #55
Originally posted by Jon`C:
My headphones are noise-cancelling. I tend to spend a lot of time around loud fans (computer and otherwise) and it was starting to affect my hearing. They only filter out noise, so I can hear other sounds around me. When I bought these, Sennheiser was the only other company to make a pair and their offering was lukewarm at best. Instead of incorporating the mics in the headphones itself, they put it inside of a dongle - so the noise cancelling effect was minimal and it resulted in a lot of noise every time I moved.

The only other realistic alternatives would have been full-enclosure noise insulating equipment (rated for ear protection), but that would have meant poor bass. Or a pair of those fancy-pants earplug/earbud deals, but I don't like to wear earbuds for a reason I don't want to get into. And both of these solutions would have rendered me incapable of hearing.. say, people calling me or a fire alarm.

I'll stick with my headphones, even if they were made by Bose.


I guess if sound quality is a problem, you could do some EQing. Personally, I think you should listen to what's best for you. Nobody else seems to understand that apparently. :p

By the way, do you dislike canalphones or do you have some sort of issue with sticking things in your ears?
[This message has been edited. Deal with it.]
2005-11-14, 7:33 PM #56
Originally posted by Shintock:
On better forums that would get you banned.

:rolleyes:


But he is the Admiral of Awesome and knows the secrets of SITH2

He cannot be banned. He is imbanmortal.
2005-11-14, 7:41 PM #57
Originally posted by kyle90:
And lo, the trumpets sounded, and the fifth seal was broken, and from it there came a flamewar of massive proportions, dealing primarily with heaphones, much to the bemusement of the 99.99% of the population that still listen to 128k mp3s.


Some of us prefer to spend our time finding music that is actually good. :p

Anyway, it doesn't matter what sound quality I listen at, or what headphones I use, because I'm listening through my laptop's built-in sound card. :[
2005-11-14, 7:49 PM #58
Originally posted by Malus:
I guess if sound quality is a problem, you could do some EQing.


EQ doesn't fix sound quality issues. No matter how hard you try, you can't polish a turd. :p
2005-11-14, 8:47 PM #59
Originally posted by Shintock:
EQ doesn't fix sound quality issues. No matter how hard you try, you can't polish a turd. :p


You can smooth it out and reduce the awfulness, though.
[This message has been edited. Deal with it.]
2005-11-14, 8:50 PM #60
Yeah but who wants to smooth out a turd? That's just unclean.
Stuff
2005-11-14, 9:41 PM #61
Originally posted by Shintock:
EQ doesn't fix sound quality issues. No matter how hard you try, you can't polish a turd. :p


But you can smear the turd around so much that can no longer tell the difference between the turd and anything else.

Just turn up the volume and ignore the fact that your headphones sound like S*** or that your speakers are blown out.

That’s what everyone else does :D
"Well, if I am not drunk, I am mad, but I trust I can behave like a gentleman in either
condition."... G. K. Chesterton

“questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself”
2005-11-14, 9:46 PM #62
What's sad is that is so true. LOL.
2005-11-14, 10:24 PM #63
This thread makes me want to buy new headphones.
2005-11-14, 10:42 PM #64
Originally posted by kyle90:
And lo, the trumpets sounded, and the fifth seal was broken, and from it there came a flamewar of massive proportions, dealing primarily with heaphones, much to the bemusement of the 99.99% of the population that still listen to 128k mp3s.


Did you mean bemusement: To cause to be bewildered; confuse? Or amusement:The state of being amused, entertained, or pleased?
MithShrike: First Mateneer
Pimpin' Yerba Mate Drinker
2005-11-14, 10:44 PM #65
[QUOTE=Connection Problem]This thread makes me want to buy new headphones.[/QUOTE]

Personally I'm looking to go the speaker route. Also, I'm ordering myself a beautiful Sansui QRX-7500 that I'm going to put a lot of time and effort into. Recapping and replacing bulbs and redoing the RCA jacks and just a crapload of work which will allow me to think less.
MithShrike: First Mateneer
Pimpin' Yerba Mate Drinker
2005-11-14, 10:53 PM #66
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
[http://www.sonystyle.com/intershoproot/eCS/Store/en/imagesProducts/650x650/MDRV250V.jpg]
Not anything fancy, I know... But they're $20 at Wal Mart, and the sound is incredibly good for that price.


Those are the exact same ones I have, and I think they're amazing.
2005-11-15, 3:06 AM #67
*shudder* i have bad memories of those $20 sony phones

one thing i hated (without getting into how they sound and opening up that flamewar) was that they were painful for me... after about 15-20 minutes my ears would be hurting something about the way they sat on my ears which is why i don't bother much with supraaural (fancy word for headphones that rest on the ear) phones anymore
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2005-11-15, 5:34 AM #68
Originally posted by Mith:
Did you mean bemusement: To cause to be bewildered; confuse? Or amusement:The state of being amused, entertained, or pleased?


If I had meant "amusement", don't you think that's what I would have typed?
Stuff
2005-11-15, 8:23 AM #69
Originally posted by Shintock:
Says the guy who thought woofer and sub-woofer speakers were the same thing. :p


Um... what!? o_O
2005-11-15, 6:19 PM #70
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Emon, you're entitled to your opinion, but you have absolutely no right to try to dictate to me what my needs are or how much something is worth to me. And one breath after telling me how my headphones are "overpriced" you tell me to buy a $20 pair of headphones -- like I can't afford or wouldn't want something more expensive. lol. Get lost.

WTF are you talking about? Why are you so god damn defensive? I already said that I understood your decision process, I was just pointing out how much a $20 pair of headphones had a much better response, which I was using to point out how horrible the QC2s sound for $300. I didn't say you should buy them. And what's this about implying you wouldn't want or couldn't afford something more expensive? Where the hell are you getting this? Don't be such a dick because your headphones are vastly technically inferior to something 7% of the price (save the noise cancelling, which I understand your argument for).

Originally posted by Jon`C:
3.) The constant exposure to loud, painful white noise was - and still is - affecting my ability to hear. If I had purchased some sound quality circle **** pair of cans that you're trying to push on me, I would now be deaf. Ergo, I would not be able to appreciate the improved sound quality, not that I would be able to hear them over this white noise.

Duh, I wasn't advocating the use of open headphones in a noisy environment. The QC2 do a great job of removing ambient, low frequency noise. The only the I recommended was a pair of canalphones, which would offer nearly twice as much sound isolation and far superior sound quality, not to mention no batteries and would be much smaller and more portable. The only disadvantage is that you wouldn't be able to hear *anything*, like people yelling at you, which I understand you don't want. I also pointed out that a good sealed headphone would block out just as much noise, albeit at all frequencies (e.g. no alarms or yelling again).
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2005-11-15, 8:12 PM #71
I bought $3.50 jWIN headphones. They are of adequate quality (especially for wsomething so cheap!) and they come with a carrying case. I only bought them to replace the $2.00 headphones I've been using for over a year. My headphone internet penis is microscopic. D:
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