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How did French become the "language of love?"
2004-05-30, 4:27 PM #1
How was French titled the "language of love?" Is it because of the tone of the voice, Paris, Hollywood or something?

I guess the language can have a smoothing, relaxed, romantic tone to it. But then I guess any other languages, German, English so on, can be used in a "charming" fashion.

So, where did the saying come from? Is French the language of love?

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2004-05-30, 4:28 PM #2
There are alot of languages that fall into the romance language category.

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2004-05-30, 4:29 PM #3
latin = romance language.

french, spanish, and english are derived from latin.

french sounds the sexiest outta them.

so french = language of love

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2004-05-30, 4:32 PM #4
I actually took french and it makes me want to hurl more than it turns me on, though...

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2004-05-30, 4:33 PM #5
That's because you knew english first. English is one of the most poorly built languages ever.
2004-05-30, 4:36 PM #6
that's why it rox [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

no, really it's not that I knew english first. I think I just have weird taste... personally I think russian is the coolest sounding language ever. I want to learn russian so bad :O

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2004-05-30, 4:38 PM #7
Personally, I love the language, hate the class. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

^talking about french^
2004-05-30, 4:44 PM #8
Romance == Romans/Romanesque. Italian, Spanish, Romanian, and French. And variations thereof.

English is rather more Anglo-Saxon [same root as German], than Romance per se, but it has very strong latin/greek influences.

I think it's supposed to be the language of love because of all the kissy-faces you make when youre pronouncing it.

And yes, Russian > *
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2004-05-30, 4:45 PM #9
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Connection Problem:
That's because you knew english first. English is one of the most poorly built languages ever.</font>


Hahaha. the irony.



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2004-05-30, 4:46 PM #10
French, a language of love? Oh I just thought It was the language of women with hairy pits.

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2004-05-30, 4:58 PM #11
I love zee french language, especially to curse with....its like wiping your a** with silk......

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2004-05-30, 4:58 PM #12
chicks with accents are always a good thing

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2004-05-30, 5:17 PM #13
I typically make love in English... what... I was supposed to make it in French... WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME THIS! DAMN IT GUYS!

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2004-05-30, 5:19 PM #14
German is the sexiest of all languages

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2004-05-30, 5:24 PM #15
I love it when Conan O'Brien goes into a German language Hitler type rant. "DAS HUTEN EIN SCHLAUSSEN HISSEN DISSEN NEIN SCHREI DEUSSEN".

Something like that, one of the funniest things ever. I have no idea what any of it means though

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2004-05-30, 5:25 PM #16
are you talking about his arnold impression [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2004-05-30, 5:44 PM #17
Français.. La langue d'amour? Pourquoi pas.

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2004-05-30, 5:50 PM #18
Je vais vomir :x

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2004-05-30, 5:54 PM #19
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Correction:
are you talking about his arnold impression [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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No, this was like a tirade of German words animated in such a way like an old Hitler speech video. Its funny as hell.

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2004-05-30, 9:19 PM #20
Correction and I share the same tastes, obviously. I want to learn Russian too. I dislike French. I honestly think it sounds awful. Like, HORRIBLE. And I hate how it seems like half the letters in a word are silent.

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2004-05-30, 10:47 PM #21
I love the way that the Senegalese, Somalians, and Algerians pronounce their French. It loses most of it's finesse and immediately it becomes almost indecipherable.
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2004-05-30, 10:48 PM #22
I always liked french canadian myself, it has sort of that "everyman" sound that you dont get while in France.

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2004-05-30, 11:36 PM #23
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dormouse:
English is rather more Anglo-Saxon [same root as German], than Romance per se, but it has very strong latin/greek influences.
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Indeed. I think it's safe to say that english is a bunch of butchered up languages put together with no rules. The hardest difficulty I encountered while learning english is having to get used to mis-pronouncing and misspelling french words and write them in a certain way even though the rules that determine that you're supposed to write the word that way didn't apply. O_o

They say french is a romantic language because of it's poetic complexity. Like someone mentioned earlier, half the letters in a word are silent.. but yet they all serve a purpose.

Personally, I like it because of how you can chain up cusswords in a sentence to no end. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

Also, I think spanish sounds more romantic. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2004-05-30, 11:43 PM #24
All of the people who are saying that English is the worst language just don't know what they're talking about. English has roots as an artificial language which combines French (what the nobles spoke) with several common Englishes. Queen's English was developed because the inconsistency between *villages* was injuring the ability to communicate.

Since then it's become the primary language for the storage of information, if only because it's so verbose - there's a word for literally everything, and generally several. And if an English word or idiom won't do, you can borrow one from another language without breaking any rules.

French is just a mutated version of Latin.
2004-05-30, 11:46 PM #25
The words of English are quite good, its the syntax and grammar rules that need work

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2004-05-31, 12:40 AM #26
German is the language of rock music.
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2004-05-31, 3:02 AM #27
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by -Monoxide-:
French, a language of love? Oh I just thought It was the language of women with hairy pits.

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Obviously you haven't ever been in Montreal, or in Quebec altogheter for that matter, we have the finest ladies, and the best version of french ever.

Oh, and Flex has the right idea, Quebec French has an endless chain of cussword possibilities, one can really tell if something's bugging you.

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2004-05-31, 6:27 AM #28
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cazor:
Hahaha. the irony.
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????

Technically, even if there is a grammatical error, that isn't ironic... http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=irony
2004-05-31, 6:30 AM #29
French doesn't sound so interesting.

And English isn't IMO poorly built, it can sound cool... but then the words don't mean a thing.

Like Naval Forced Eredicator System to Unleash The Exterminal Power Atmosphere.

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2004-05-31, 6:32 AM #30
english wuz here.

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2004-05-31, 6:47 AM #31
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">All of the people who are saying that English is the worst language just don't know what they're talking about.
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English is a horrible language because of the numerous exceptions to any given rule and the difficulty of learning it if it isn't your native tongue. Other than that, it's fine.

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2004-05-31, 6:58 AM #32
French is a cool language, such a relaxing and soft touch.

J'aime parler le francais beaucoup [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-05-31, 7:40 AM #33
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JJPSX:
Correction and I share the same tastes, obviously. I want to learn Russian too. I dislike French. I honestly think it sounds awful. Like, HORRIBLE. And I hate how it seems like half the letters in a word are silent.

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I agree...

Hate French
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2004-05-31, 7:43 AM #34
I like Russian and German. German is a sexy language.

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2004-05-31, 7:51 AM #35
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2004-05-31, 8:12 AM #36
The issue with French, and English to a lesser degree, is they are totally not suited to the Roman alphabet. And nobody is at all willing to consider [or even it being possible anymore] updating or making a new symbology.

French is mutated latin, yes, but it's mutated lower-class illiterate *******ized outpost-soldier-latin further corrupted and modified by the native Gaulish [Gaulic?] of where they were stationed. Like all those liasions and elisions are pretty literally etymologically "y'all" and "us'ns" and that sort of concept.

This for instance is the source of their ridiculous numbering system. The Gauls had a base-20 system, the Romans had decimal obviously, so the Gauls wound up using decimal because of the enforcement of their overlords, except when the numbers got big and they reverted. For those who don't know, French French counts normally through sixty, then it goes sixty-ten through sixty-nineteen, four-twenty through four-twenty-nine, and finally four-twenty-ten through four-twenty-nineteen before reaching 100. To my knowledge, most everywhere else that speaks French however simply goes soixante septante octante nonante cent.

But alphabetically, the Latin alphabet [which the Romans in turn stole from the Latines along with their language [http://forums.massassi.net/html/redface.gif]] tends to be very precise distinct phonetic and so forth, however when applied to French [or English as above, though lesser], it somewhat breaks down. This is why you have phonemes which are 3-5 letters long which /should/ be able to be expressed as a single distinct character. Just right off the top i can think of words like Beaucoup, or Queue [spelling that word out loud in French btw is hilarious].

The other main issue i have with French at least is that there's such a freaking lot of words which are pronounced identically, like ses sais c'est or the like. As well, you just simply do not pronounce any final letter unless it is c r f or l, or if the next word starts with a vowel, though those liasons themselves follow somewhat complicated and arbitraryish rules. Or that 5 of their 7 bloody conjugations sound utterly identical, which makes it a totally no-pro-drop language, that is virtually any time you have a verb you must must have a pronoun or else you don't know whom the verb refers to.

However, French French being French French, is incredibly intolerant and dissmissive of linguistic change or the possibility of a revised or new symbology, i mean they have a bleeding bureau in their government to preserve their linguistic integrity. Hence things such as it's not 'email' its 'courielle electronique', at least for any sort of official or government function.

Though that's not to say it's a language utterly without merit, one of my friends and i who took the course are fairly comfortable just conversing in French on campus about whatever, so it's not that i just didn't get it or couldn't learn it, i just found it a bit frustrating or annoying or linguistically un-aesthetic or whatever. Probably especially because the language i'd learned right before it was Russian, which has an artificial alphabet which is almost entirely phonetic and crafted specifically for the language [qod bless St Cyril], and has one of the most totally distinct and coherent inflection-patterns of any language i've ever seen aside from Latin perhaps. That is, every conjugation, every tense, every agreement, are almost all entirely distinct to the ear, there were very few times i ran into one word sounding exactly like 5 other words. It is utterly a pro-drop language because of this, as with Latin most of the time you simply leave off pronouns except for clarity or emphasis. And for that matter, the to-be verb is left out as well the majority of the time, unless youre using past or future [bijt' or budet'. i may have those backwards though]. Now admittedly there's rather more importance placed on syllabic stress [ie BAA-bushka and babushka have rather different connotations], which isn't something i really encountered in French, but overall: mne ochen' nravit'sya russkij bol'she chem' frantsuszkij.

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2004-05-31, 8:27 AM #37
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MechWarrior:
I typically make love in English... what... I was supposed to make it in French... WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME THIS! DAMN IT GUYS!

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2004-05-31, 9:26 AM #38
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dormouse:
For those who don't know, French French counts normally through sixty, then it goes sixty-ten through sixty-nineteen, four-twenty through four-twenty-nine, and finally four-twenty-ten through four-twenty-nineteen before reaching 100. To my knowledge, most everywhere else that speaks French however simply goes soixante septante octante nonante cent.</font>


Where did you hear that? I've never even -heard- of septante/octante/nonate? O_o

No, we all say sixty-ten, four-twenty, four-twenty-ten, etc. For instance, if you want to say "ninety thousand and ninety nine", you'd have to say "Four-twenty-ten thousand four-twenty-ten-nine". [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif] But it's really not that hard to learn, you just have to try and see 'quatre-vingt-dix' as being one word meaning ninety rather than quatre, vingt, and dix. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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This is why you have phonemes which are 3-5 letters long which /should/ be able to be expressed as a single distinct character. Just right off the top i can think of words like Beaucoup, or Queue [spelling that word out loud in French btw is hilarious].</font>


Well, okay, beaucoup is a weird word, but I don't see any useless characters in queue, unless you count that rule in the french language that says a Q must -always- be followed by a U.

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The other main issue i have with French at least is that there's such a freaking lot of words which are pronounced identically, like ses sais c'est or the like. As well, you just simply do not pronounce any final letter unless it is c r f or l, or if the next word starts with a vowel, though those liasons themselves follow somewhat complicated and arbitraryish rules. Or that 5 of their 7 bloody conjugations sound utterly identical, which makes it a totally no-pro-drop language, that is virtually any time you have a verb you must must have a pronoun or else you don't know whom the verb refers to.</font>


It's the useless insane complexity of it that makes it beautiful. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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However, French French being French French, is incredibly intolerant and dissmissive of linguistic change or the possibility of a revised or new symbology, i mean they have a bleeding bureau in their government to preserve their linguistic integrity. Hence things such as it's not 'email' its 'courielle electronique', at least for any sort of official or government function.
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Ironically, of all places on earth where french is spoken, it's in france that people use english words the most. grille pain -> toaster, stationnement -> parking, etc.. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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Probably especially because the language i'd learned right before it was Russian</font>


Well there you go. You can't compare french to russian, because russian is godly [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]


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2004-05-31, 9:30 AM #39
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typically you don't adress someone to whom you just gave an oil massage the same way as you'd adress your boss. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2004-05-31, 9:38 AM #40
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Flexor:
typically you don't adress someone to whom you just gave an oil massage the same way as you'd adress your boss. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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Depends on your profession...

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