Avenger, I didnt bring it up. Bringing it up would have been "What do you guys think about my installation of a keylogger" not "I DO NOT WISH TO DISCUSS THE KEYLOGGER AS I ALREADY KNOW IT WAS WRONG AND FELT BAD".

As soon as I posted that, it's been the main concentration of the whole thread, bashing me for using it, when already I've stated I knew it was wrong and DID NOT WANT TO DISCUSS IT.

Except you did bring it up by saying that you installed a key logger.

Having the keylogger is an integral part of this, temp, because your asking us to comment on the trust issue here and you have to admit that the keylogger has to do with it. sorry, but you can't talk about one issue and isolate it from everything else having to do with it.

Yes, I can, because my only questions were

"How would you react?
what would you think?
And what would you do?"


Nowhere in those does it state anything near remotely related to a keylogger. Even after that I pointed out that I didnt wish advice, discussion, or anything about that part of the topic. It's not an integral part because I didn't ask for opinions on THAT point, only on how your reaction to the situation if you found something like this on a bf/gf's computer would be.



So far only one person has gotten it in the entire topic. The fact remains, you guys dont like me, I don't really care, but you're just finding ways to jump down my throat about this. You're ignoring still the fact that I clearly stated that I didn't want to discuss the keylogger part, and nobody has yet to answer my three questions as you';re all too busy pointing out whaT I already know and stated clearly AGAIN and AGAin, and AGAIN, thatI didn't want a discussion or opinions on.

Avenger, I can take the truth, I can take the fact that it would be a good decision to break up with her. I don't want that obviously, but I am willing to accept it. That still doesn't change my point, that that was not the intent of my post, nor my questions that I asked, nor what I am still asking and trying to point out. I wanted to gauge my reactions to others, to see if the way I reacted to this was the way that most people would react, or what they think they should react like if they discovered something like this. NOTHING MORE..

I find it ironic that you, advocate of complete faithfulness to your girlfriend to the extent you consider looking at porn cheating, have a girlfriend who, according to the same logic, is very clearly cheating on you. I would assume ‘cheating’ necessitates you dumping her, unless, of course your beliefs differ from most people in this respect.

But that's just logic. Logic ain't too popular 'round these parts.

Massassi Drama, gotta love it.

Temp comes in and asks a question about trust. Massassi tells him he's untrustworthy. So instead of realizing he has a problem, he puts his hands over his ears and screams at everyone, because evidently Massassi didn't tell him what he wanted to hear.

Let's go over the first post you made.

Here we establish that you have a great mistrust of your gf, including some questionable actions. But continuing on.


Here you ask the general audience of what you think we would have done had we been you. This is where the issue of the keylogger comes up. Because this must be taken into consideration regarding our potential opinions. It is of the mindset that we basically abhorr the use of keyloggers as espionnage tools. To continue.


This is somewhat of a contradictory statement. You do not wish us to scorn you but you quite indeed brought up the keylogger point. This action is offensive to most of us. When people are offended, it is usually made public. Human nature. Is it justifyable, sometimes.

In conclusion. You really should not have mentioned the fact that you used a keylogger. You know that this forum is highly opinionated and we will opine quite frequently. It is the nature of the place. Thus, it was expected to have options on your use of keylogger.

And you know what Gandalf? If people had have pointed it out like that first, instead of acting like morons calling me manless, an ***, and bull**** like that, I probalby would have reacted different as well.

I do not deny that some of the stuff said looks meanspirited. I share some of the opinions though.

My thoughts: This relationship is doomed. I really do not think that it can be mended. There is a serious trust issue on both your parts. If I were you, I would break up. If she finds out that you did use a keylogger, be prepared for it to all it a giant-sized fan. Oh, I would seek some legal counsel. I do not know Candian law when it pertains to these matters but I'm going to assume that she may be in her right to press some form of charges against you. If you both were in the United States, what you did would be considered illegal and you can be charged.

My analysis: I really do not think we all have such great malice towards you. We all agree here that your actions denote some character flaws. It is our hopes that you see this and look to mend flaw(s) or at least not repeat these actions. Your resistance to what we're saying denotes some denial. Note that I am not insulting or demeaning. I'm analyzing. I am just presenting what I have perceived in this thread. Some have pointed out your failings in a, well, blunt manner.

For the rest: Read the last part of his post carefully. He says he regrets using the keylogger. Take that as you will. But the important idea is that it has been done. No amount of *****ing will undo this action.

I don't see anyone calling you manless...an ***, yes, but not manless. We said what you did was stupid, and you took it the wrong way. Stop trying to heap all the blame on us just because you don't know how to react to people--and stop saying "BLAH BLAH I DON'T CARE YOU GUYS ARE ONLY SAYING THIS BECAUSE YOU HATE ME BLAH BLAH" because it's annoying. Just so you know. Trying to drive that much home, at least. Hell, Jaiph could come bcak, say he did it, and I'd still go "Dude, that's ****ed up." It's my opinion--has nothing to do with who you are.

I told her i installed a keylogger she asked how I found out and I told her.