http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/breaking_news/8818982.htm

read the article, and yah maby you dont care. but today has been rough for me and my friends, i dont even know what emotion to feel. Danny Presson was my friend. Not only that, but he was my boyfriends best firend.

last night was so stupiod. Each friend told there parrents that thay were staying at different houses, so thay ended up wtih no where to stay. Eventully this lead them to pitch a tent in a creepy grave yard, where at 3(ish) in the moreing the cops came because tahy were trusspassing. (did i mention thay were extremly drunk)

The cops called all of there parrents. and Danny's dad came to pick him up. Danny's dad is pissed at him, for lying about where he was, and being out all night, which prompted an arguement. The arguement spriled downward untill thay were wrestling on the kitchen floor, where danny stabed him once, but immeatly killing him with a butcher knife.

Then he takes his mom's SUV and screams down lexingtion at speeds of excess 90mph, where he crashes, beause he was trying to find his gf's house to hide from the cops. who catch up with him on foot a short while later.

And now, this pot smoking junkie who wanted to be a mecanic is in jail for murdering his father. In his case there pushing life inprisonment... I'm nost saying he doesent deserve it, but, sigh. i dont know what to feel.

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Wow... just, wow. I'm sorry.

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here's another story with a pic and video report http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1911848&nav=0RaMNalk


you know I'm here for you, E.

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Oh god...I don't know what to say. I'm really sorry.

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Wow... that';s just plain bad. I'm not really quite sure if i could express much about this, beyond rant at how supid these people were, but i think i'll leave that up to you, since you know them. I'm really sorry for you.

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I'm sorry to hear this. Although he must take responcibility and pay for his actions. I always feel sorry for the people that know the person in situations like this.

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<Outlaw_Torn> you mean your related to that damned sasquatch, Mech?
<MechWarrior> Lets just say the part of the family tree that does fork has bossy the goat in it.

<ubuu> does hitler have a last name?

[This message has been edited by MechWarrior (edited June 02, 2004).]

There are some mistakes that just can't be put away. I'm sorry.

I can't belive that.

1.) It's amazing how a kid could stab his own father.
2.) He survived after crashing a car at 90MPH?
3.) How can one take a life so easy.I can barely kill a bug without feeling bad for it. I just ended a life.

I feel sad for that poor man

I feel sorry for you. And for all who have to go through times like this.

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the person i feel most sorry for is his mom, who 2 weeks ago she lost her dad, then today lost her husbond, and her son. i so want to know how she is doing and i feel so bad for her

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Maybe you should visit her or a phone call... you know just to show her that someone out there cares.

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<Outlaw_Torn> you mean your related to that damned sasquatch, Mech?
<MechWarrior> Lets just say the part of the family tree that does fork has bossy the goat in it.

<ubuu> does hitler have a last name?

I feel like crying. That's so sad. My condolences to you, your friends, and your family.

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That is sad, but also one of the stupidest reasons ever to stab his own father. What a brat.

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Depends how good a dad your dad is...

HOWEVER in this case it doesn't seem like there was much reason for it if any.

I feel sorry for the mother, lost both her husband and son...

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sorry Elana. Tradegys happen to the best of us. I think if his mom is so broken up, and you were his friend, you should pay he a visit, just a thought.

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I just want to point out that if the father is beating the son and the son feels like his life is in danger, it's perfectly legal to defend himself. I'm not sure that happened in this case, but if anyone 25 years my senior and 150lbs heavier than me had me pinned on the floor and was beating the snot out of me, I wouldn't hesitate to pull a knife or a gun in my own defense.

also, I think they got that line mixed up, shouldn't that say a MINIMUM of 15 years in prison?

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Pot smoking junkie?? Smoking pot does not make you a junkie in any way shape or form. Seriouslly, get real. Do you think the pot had anything to do with any of his problems? He was out at night DRINKING ALCOHOL. Upon returning home he was probably still drunk, and thus got violent with his dad. Drinking makes you violent. If he had been smoking pot that night instead of drinking I can GUARANTEE you his dad would be alive right now, and your friend wouldn't be facing life in prison.

And sorry about all this crap but it doesn't really sound like he was your friend at all the way you talk about him.

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uh, Raoul, she knows this kid. She was his friend. i don't think i would be arguing with her judgements...

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Is the death penalty not usually taken for murder?

It depends on which state, but death penalty is only used in extreme cases. Usually death penalty is given to people whose murders were particularly brutal.

I don't think life in prison is the right penalty for this one. Not only was it not premeditated but the circumstances that Brian mentioned should also cause a lesser penalty. I'm not saying that he should get off the hook but the penalty needs to fit the crime.

1st degree murder means you planned it, 2nd it was like in a fit of rage, and they go easier on you. Usually you don't get the death penalty unless you planned it, executed it, and there was some torture or rape or something else involved as well. Or if it was multiple murders. AT least according to courttv.

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Um, no. not hardly. Especially not for minors. The death penatly is usually resrved only for instances of mass murder, such as the oklahoma bombing.

[EDIT} uh, yah. Legend said it all.

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-DX:IW
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[This message has been edited by Noble Outlaw (edited June 03, 2004).]

Ah, okay.
Also, on a completely unrelated note, is treason actually punishable by the death penalty?

Also, the US does execute criminals under 18. It's one of the few countries in the world that does.

[This message has been edited by Mort-Hog (edited June 03, 2004).]

Friend? Most people don't call their friends "pot smoking junkies". Junkie is a pretty hateful label.



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well this just plain sucks pigeon

if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}

or maybe she was simply stating a fact rather than denying it

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Thats ****in ridiculous.

Heroin addicts are junkies.
Crackheads are junkies

Potheads are NOT junkies. If you want to call someone who smokes weed a junkie then you might as well call anyone who drinks alcohol a junkie. Seriously, someone who had a joint once in a while does not have a problem. Go look at people shooting heroin in alleyways...they have a problem.

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"If there's one thing I've learned it's this - you just can't shake hands with a fist" - David Allen Coe

Raoul, I think you are completly missing the point of the thread. She didn't create it to argue about if people who smoke pot are considered junkies or not. She created it because a friend of hers killed his dad. The fact that he smoked pot is a minor detail. But if you want to argue over if people who smoke pot are considered junkies, create a new thread or something. JUST DON'T DO IT HERE.

And Elana... my sympathy goes out to you and all effected by this tragedy.

Uh, just because you admit your boys or girls do substances doesn't mean they're not your friends ..

What to do with him depends on how you want his life to turn out .. if you want to try to "save" him, you don't put him with the lifers .. he'll get pushed into crews, get assraped and assaulted, beaten if he fratenizes with other crews, etc .. but if you want him to see bitter for his life, you shove him in there.

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to clear the record, danny did most every drug i can think ok, and problly some i cant. I actully just left his house where his mom is at, and his sisters whith there husbands, and dam. All of there hearts are broken in 2. No one but imidate family is allowed to see him.

It's strange to think that even though he did this, for the people who know him, out openion of him hasent changed. We all still love him, and dont think any less of him than the day before, maby that's rong. Everyone is looking for answers to the question why, and there are none.

Thay say he doesent understand what he has done, that he doesent understand that his dad isant comming back. Please pray for us, and danny.

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All the sadness around here is starting to make me sad.

I feel so bad for you, I wish there was something I could to. To bad I live in RI. :/

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oh, there are no degrees of murder in south caronlina law, it's eather manslauter, or murder.

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Is this manslaughter or murder?

The sad face says many words...

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Not that it concerns this thread in any way shape or form, but just so you know:

YOU ARE WRONG IN EVERY WAY, AND YOU MIGHT AS WELL GIVE IT UP.

Marijuana is just as addictive as any other drug, and yes, alcohol. Trying to say that one is better than the other is stupid, because they're all bad for you. If nothing else, smoking something is not good for your lungs, diminishing the oxygen you receive, making you unable think as clearly. And I'll be damned if you say that "junkies" on marijuana are not addicts. I can't stand people who defend marijuana as if it has no biological side effects.

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You guys, quit argueing about which drugs make you this and make you that. Does it really matter. errr...... This thread was made so Elana could vent (I think) so guys, keep it real, and stop arguing about which drugs make you a junkie.

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Way to fuel the fire. Bravo....

And Raoul, get off your high horse, if you want to ****ing debate about drugs, make your own thread.

now that this is cleared up, I feel bad for you Elana, reading that article just made me go wide-eyed and jaw dropped... Might not seem much but you -do- have all my sympathies through this, even if it's not about me it just seems so senseless in my head.. So yeah, keep your spirits up even if it seems hard, you'll help yourself in the long run.



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