[10:46] <Kroko> Did you guys know that tomorrow is supposedly the anniversary of the day that Jesus was born?
[10:46] <thad420> yeah
[10:46] <Impi> I think it's more symbolic.
[10:46] <Istvan> Who's Jesus?
[10:47] <Impi> Made to replace some heretic holiday.
[10:47] <Kroko> Although I don't believe in any god. I'm not even sure Jesus even existed, although the general consensus seems to present him as a historical character.
[10:49] <Impi> In religious ed we once looked for other sources that tell about Jesus. There are not that many, but enough to convince me.
[10:49] <Impi> I don't believe in god, either, but this Jesus seemed to be a nice guy.
[10:50] <thad420> religious ed
[10:50] <Impi> I like what Douglas Adams had to say about that: "nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change."
[10:51] <thad420> lol
[10:51] <Jon> heh
[10:51] <thad420> u had to take religious ed
[10:51] <Impi> Religious education. Don't know the correct English term.
[10:51] <thad420> that is a load of crap
[10:51] <Jon> thad, your face is a load of crap.
[10:51] <Jon> *sizzle*
[10:51] <thad420> where do you live
[10:51] <thad420> what school makes you take religious ed
[10:51] <Impi> Catholic school. Nothing better than a catholic school to cleans you from any religious consent.
[10:52] <thad420> oh
[10:52] <thad420> i'm terribly sorry
[10:52] <Jon> everyone should take religious education. Religion is just as much a part of humanity as mathmatics or science.
[10:52] <thad420> lol
[10:52] <Gettleburer> ...
[10:52] <thad420> lunatic education
[10:52] <thad420> how about that
[10:52] <Gettleburer> agreed
[10:52] <Jon> thad...
[10:52] <Jon> you're pathetic.
[10:52] <Jon> seriously.
[10:52] <thad420> are you a follower of JC?
[10:53] <spe> religious education is a useful subject to know
[10:53] <Impi> It was interesting. We once also analysed Life Of Brian.
[10:53] <spe> and when i got taught it for 5 years at school, we didnt just learn about christianity
[10:53] <Impi> It was more about religion.
[10:53] <thad420> well
[10:53] <Jon> thad, I am, but that's beside the point. spe and Impi understand what I'm getting at.
[10:53] <thad420> that probably wouldn't be bad
[10:54] <Jon> Religion is a vital part of the human experience.
[10:54] <thad420> oh
[10:54] <spe> we also covered subjects that are touchy in religious areas, such as abortion
[10:54] <Jon> why shouldn't it be taught and understood just like history?
[10:54] <thad420> YEAH OK
[10:54] <thad420> because
[10:54] <thad420> i'm not a follower
[10:54] <thad420> of any religion
[10:54] <thad420> what if
[10:54] <Jon> so.
[10:54] <thad420> i want to be close-minded
[10:54] <thad420> ?
[10:54] <Jon> then you shouldn't be in school.
[10:54] <thad420> now, if i voluntarily
[10:54] <thad420> wanted this class
[10:54] <Jon> cause if your mind is closed, you won't learn anything.
[10:55] <thad420> i think it'd be alright
[10:55] <thad420> jon
[10:55] <thad420> you're a dumbass
[10:55] <thad420> go pray
[10:55] <Jon> well thad, what if I don't want to learn about science?
[10:55] <Jon> I shouldn't have to.
[10:55] <spe> thad, i suggest you go outside and set fire to some black people if thats your stance
[10:55] <thad420> of course
[10:55] <thad420> no, i like n******
[10:55] <Jon> but no one complaines about science class.
[10:55] * thad420 cares
[10:55] <thad420> haha
[10:55] <mb`> ...
[10:55] <mb`> oh youre a funny guy
[10:55] <Impi> Heh, we also got told once how to best kill yourself.
[10:56] <mb`> read are freaking rules why dont you
[10:56] * ChanServ sets mode: +o mb`
[10:56] * thad420 was kicked by mb` (Watch the language please)
[10:57] <Jon> poor kid, didn't know what he was stepping into.
[10:57] <Jon> he assumed I was some kind of moronic religious zealot.
[10:57] <mb`> no, he does
[10:57] <mb`> hes just a moron
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[10:57] <Jon> when in fact, I am a perfectly educated, religious zealot who knows how to make a point and argue it.
[10:58] <spe> wouldn't someone perfectly educated move that comma along two words?
[10:58] <Jon> most likely.
[10:58] <Jon> but I'm also a rebel.
[10:58] <Jon> O_o
[10:59] <thad420> no you aren't Jon
[10:59] <thad420> you're a sissy
[10:59] <thad420> jesus-lover
[10:59] <Jon> ...can you guys believe this?
[10:59] <Jon> thad, chill out.
[10:59] <spe> EYE OF THE TIGER, KEEP FIGHTING THE POWER THAD
[10:59] <thad420> hahahaha
[10:59] <Jon> you're gonna get yourself in trouble.
[10:59] <thad420> you chill out
[10:59] <thad420> WOW
[10:59] <thad420> ON THE INTERNET
[11:00] <thad420> WOW
[11:00] <Jon> ...
[11:00] <Jon> yes, thad. This is the int-er-net.
[11:00] * thad420 was kicked by mb` (OMGZ INTARNET)
[11:00] <Jon> lol
[11:00] * thad420 has joined #massassi
[11:00] <thad420> i thought mb was cool
[11:00] <thad420> but he's just as gay as everyone else here
[11:00] <mb`> I thought you werent a pain in the ***
[11:00] <thad420> abusing their ops
[11:00] <thad420> well
[11:00] <thad420> when people talk s*** to me
[11:00] <JediGandalf> He's a tyrant.
[11:00] <thad420> i have a right to defend myself
[11:00] <Jon> thad. you kind of have to follow the rules..
[11:01] * mb` sets mode: +b *!*@holonet-2AFE896E.ruh.isu.net.sa
[11:01] <spe> god damn, you're as stupid as you are biggoted
[11:01] <Jon> if you're gonna be here.
[11:01] <JediGandalf> ALL HAIL LORD MB
[11:01] * thad420 was kicked by mb` (Im such a bad person)
[11:01] <mb`> bye!
[11:01] <Jon> hehe..
[11:01] <Jon> poor kid.

Well basically, my stance is that religion is as important a part of a person's education as science or history, because it's just as much a part of the human experience as those things.

[10:51] <Jon> thad, your face is a load of crap.

and i said *sizzle* afterword.

What is *sizzle* supposed to mean?
My translation would be something like "You have just been flamed."

My stance on religion:
I'am a Jehovahs Witness... well not really, but I've learned much from them, and I've learned to do this. Read the bible, and apply its principles to my life. I do not doubt the bible in any way, for if we followed its principles, we would have atleast peace.

Well, back when I was washing dishes down at the "Eagles Nest" this fat New Yorker-ish guy asked me what I wanted to be/do. I told him I wanted to be a missionary, and his jaw dropped and he just stared at me. I've never seen such a shocked look on a persons face. Someone else heard it, and was like "So you're going to shave your head and go around chanting?" and he was being serious.

Heh. I found it all very amusing.

It's not really being singled out, but when you have a goal like that you become set apart from other kinds of people.

Maybe, but the same is probably true of the Quran, or what have you. Therein lies the problem.

Actually... I'm pretty sure that Quran encourages "holy war"

Actually... I'm pretty sure that Quran encourages "holy war"

Actually... I'm pretty sure that Quran encourages "holy war"

As far as I'm concerned no public school should be teaching a religion class.

If there's enough interest among the student body, why shouldn't there (finances and staff permitting) be a class that at least gives an introductory review of the major world religions?

If there's enough interest among the student body, why shouldn't there (finances and staff permitting) be a class that at least gives an introductory review of the major world religions?

A public school is a government institution. There is a seperation of church and state. Therefore religion should not be taught in school.

...and you call someone like thad ignorant?

A public school is a government institution. There is a seperation of church and state. Therefore religion should not be taught in school.

There is a seperation of church and state.

Religion has had a humongous impact on our history. Offering a Religion History and overview class wouldn't violate any separation of church and state issues, especially if you at least covered all the main religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Shintoism [though...is that a religion?], Hinduism, etc etc). Then you wouldn't be pushing any one religion on the kids, you'd just be handing them the material.

If only the separation was more clear.

Undoubtedly. I already said that the impact of religion should be taught in a history class.

Actually... I'm pretty sure that Quran encourages "holy war"

And a lovely little story about God killing 3000 people for worshipping a golden calf.