1. Uhh. So?
2. Call me wierd but I hate rock or rap or any other kind of music. I kinda like classical and some old hyms but that's about it. Any one elce this way? (suddenly notices that I'm WAY OT and hides whimpering in a corner) Ok, guys I did not start a thing. I didn't say he was slandered in this thred. I'm talking about other cases. Leave me outta this! *runs to flame bunker*

[This message has been edited by Obi_Kwiet (edited June 06, 2004).]

You don't like music. How interesting. I like classic rock, classic metal, and just about anything else that pisses off the conservatives, with the exception of rap, due to the fact that it's not music, but poetry with drums.

How does this relate? Reagan hated alot of music that I love, and he managed to set up for the economic horror that was the first Bush administration. How can someone like this be considered a top ten President?

Let's take a minute to think of others that were in many ways superior.

1. How about Roosevelt for instance. How many times was he elected? Can you count them on one hand?
2. Abraham Lincoln. For obvious reasons.
3. John F. Kennedy. Cause he was different. He was liberal. And they killed him for it.
4. LBJ. Cause he was man enough to admit that he screwed up and didn't want to be President again.
5. Carter. See number 2.
6. Eisenhower. He was a real man. He was a soldier, and he knew enough about fighting wars to not just wage war on people like some other Presidents do.
7. Truman. Cause the man was an *******, and he was proud of it. And he got things done. Also, see number 6.
8. Teddy Roosevelt. See 6 and 7.
9. George Washington. He ran a brand new nation. He was a soldier. We're still around after over 230 years. The man that started it all.
10. John Kerry. Come on, people. You know it's a lock. And anyone will seem good after Bush. Also, see 6 and 7,

I hate when people say things that are not true. Like every time a singer dies they become one of the greatest singers of all time. Reagan was not one of the greatest Presidents ever. He was mediocre at best. Deal with it. And now he's dead. Sad, but true, on both counts.

And even though I shouldn't have to state this, this is just my opinion. As if anything anyone has said here is anything more than opinion. I know dozens of people that were REALLY glad to hear that he died. Not saying I'm one of them, I don't like hearing about death, unless the person did some really jacked up things in life, but I'm not saying I'm glad he's dead, I'm just saying he wasn't a "great" leader.

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I don't want your signature on the same page as mine. It's talking to my signature, and making it feel bad about itself.

How come I don't see President Van Buren on that list? He has his own secret handshake for God's sake.

Unpatriotic scum.

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Dude I've seen girls and I've seen lobsters, and that is totally a lobster.

-Correction

I can agree to all but 5 and 10 of your list, Melon. Kennedy maaay have been liberal but he knew when to cut taxes. And he stood up against the Soviet Union.

Economic horror?? Tax revenues SOARED. He cut the taxes by a great deal. The problem is that we never really kept any of the income. The Democratic Congress saw this huge income and spent like mad.

Reagan was a straight talker. He said what was needed to be said no questions asked. Reagan's advisers pleated with Reagan not to give the speech in Berlin. Yet he said it because that is what was needed to be said. "Mr. Gorbechev. Tear down this wall!" Reagan wasn't wishy washy on his views. He didn't take polls of the public to see how "popular" an issue was and then change to fit the consensus. I really don't know where some of today's politicians stand. Reagan also reignited the national spirit in us. He made us be proud of our nation again.

That's why I think he was a great president. And no, I don't think it is set in stone that Bush will lose come the 2nd of November. That is still 4 months, 26 days away. Anything can happen.

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Unpatriotic? I hardly think so. An *******, definately. But I'm not unpatriotic.

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I don't want your signature on the same page as mine. It's talking to my signature, and making it feel bad about itself.

Which is a very short time.

Reagan was a thinker. He didn't just read what others wrote, he had his own strong opinions, which he usually presented.

The less thinking side of him once, before a press conference, said in jest that the USA will bomb the Soviets in five minutes. No problem, just something to release tension between him and his assistants with, except that the mics were on.

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If you can read this, you need better glasses.

Wasn't JFK president during the Vietnam war?

Is it too much to ask A GOD DAMN ADMINISTRATOR TO KEEP A THREAD UNDER CONTROL?!?!

Honestly people, this thread was intended to honor the passing of one of our former presidents. Please, PLEASE, keep it at that and stop using his death to take cheap shots at his politics. Right now, I'm absolutely horrified that anyone here is sick enough to do so. So STOP IT.

Just because he's dead it doesn't mean we're supposed to like him.

I don't care. Keep your negative opinions of him out of this thread.

[This message has been edited by Morfildor (edited June 07, 2004).]

Yes, and so was LBJ and Nixon.



When you post on a public board you should expect opinions contrary to your own.


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I do but I also expect the human race to be decent enough not to dishonor someone immediately after their death.

[This message has been edited by Morfildor (edited June 07, 2004).]

When I die, I don't expect people to suddenly like me. I expect you to treat me in the same way as if I were alive. People that like me would mourn my death, people that don't wouldn't, people that hate me would celebrate and people that don't know me simply wouldn't care. I don't expect anything different. Pretending to like me when I'm dead when you hated me when alive seems terribly two-faced.

Gandalf: If tax revenues soared (which you haven't supported), it was because Reagan signed one of the largest tax increases in the history of this nation when he rescinded huge portions of his tax cut.

Republicans controlled the Senate and Presidency from 1981 to 1987. Any budget that passed was acceptable to the administration.

Entirely irrelevant. This has nothing to do with liking someone. This is about showing respect for those that have passed on. Now please, cut it out

[This message has been edited by Morfildor (edited June 07, 2004).]

Well, I'm sure Reagan did wonderful things for the American people. Which must be why my father was out of a job when he was in office. And he couldn't find a good job when he was in office. He did wonderful things for the American people, assuming your household income was over 200k. Little 50k a year guys like my dad got crapped on to no end.

And by the way, there's nothing special about dying. People put way too much into it. People get old, and they die. Period. People die every day and I don't see rememberance threads for them. Right now, someone just died. Somewhere in the world about a dozen people have died in the time you have read this message, where is their rememberance thread?

What makes Reagan different? He was President? No, he was a normal man like everyone. He just had a high profile job. And that doesn't make him special.

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I don't want your signature on the same page as mine. It's talking to my signature, and making it feel bad about itself.

Meh, death is overrated. I'm just glad the poor guy and his family don't have to suffer any more. And on the whole good president/bad president issue, there's no way you can classify any one as "good" or "bad". There's always going to be those who think he was the best president ever, and those who think he was the worst.

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-Les Claypool of Primus

Irrelevent. The people that you said are dying, are getting respect. Since this subject was brought to these boards, I suggest you respect Reagan as you would anyone you know by at least remaining silent.

So it's totally irrelevant what the person did while alive, you should respect them when dead regardless?

Just to continue the Massassi tradition of involving Hitler in every single thread, why don't you respect Hitler now that he is dead?

Is there some 'respect threshold' the person has to cross, or is it a continuous 'respect spectrum' (a respectrum?)

Again, irrelevent. Reagan did not murder millions of innocents. Quit with the idiotic arguements Mort-Hog. Just stop posting in this thread. It's a simple request.

It saddens me that you've done this much and that also no admins have yet to step in.

[This message has been edited by Morfildor (edited June 07, 2004).]

Even Gorbachev praised him (though in honesty Gorbachev's a decent guy so I expected that). To be honest I think it's sad - as his life got on he forgot (so it's said) that he was even President and that he ended the Cold War. Needless to say I think the world is more in debt to him than perhaps the younger of us realise (I've only just finished my Cold War course in History as it happens.)

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You thread-hijackers suck. Next time I see this, I will ban you all.

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