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Which came first?
2006-01-05, 11:14 AM #1
By egg I mean an egg containing a chicken, lets not get silly by talking about lizard eggs and whatnot
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2006-01-05, 11:16 AM #2
Most overrated question ever. How can an egg ever exist without the chicken?
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2006-01-05, 11:20 AM #3
It depends on what Catholics say came first. Whatever they say I vote against, because they are always wrong.
2006-01-05, 11:20 AM #4
Egg 4 leif!!1one
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2006-01-05, 11:21 AM #5
Egg. [I need to stop acting crazy.]
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2006-01-05, 11:33 AM #6
Can't believe 'egg' is winning.
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2006-01-05, 11:36 AM #7
The chicken MUST lay the egg, so it came first. That's what I will always believe, because it hurts my head to think about it further.
2006-01-05, 11:37 AM #8
Originally posted by Tenshu:
Can't believe 'egg' is winning.


Me neither. Assuming we are in fact talking about a chicken egg, that egg can only be defined in terms of the chicken, and therefore the chicken must have come first.
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2006-01-05, 11:51 AM #9
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2006-01-05, 11:51 AM #10
"By egg I mean an egg containing a chicken"

Think about that for a minute. In evolutionary terms, surely the egg that first contained a chicken must have been laid by whatever came before the chicken?

Therefore, egg came first.
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2006-01-05, 12:09 PM #11
Originally posted by Detty:
"By egg I mean an egg containing a chicken"

Think about that for a minute. In evolutionary terms, surely the egg that first contained a chicken must have been laid by whatever came before the chicken?

Therefore, egg came first.


It's a nonsensical question. The answer is: define chicken, define egg.
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2006-01-05, 12:10 PM #12
I defined egg for you, in the very first post. You may have missed it in the rush to be right.
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2006-01-05, 12:17 PM #13
Chickens are just an egg's way of producing more eggs.
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2006-01-05, 12:30 PM #14
Originally posted by Detty:
I defined egg for you, in the very first post. You may have missed it in the rush to be right.


:/

The question was: when did an egg start to be an egg and a chicken a chicken? The question 'which came first' is nonsensical because speciation doesn't happen in discrete steps.
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2006-01-05, 12:40 PM #15
tenshu is defining egg as an egg coming from a chicken (a chicken's egg). detty is defining egg as an egg containing a chicken.

in both cases, there is only one right answer (it's inherent in the way the eggs are defined by each party). according to tenshu's definiton, the chicken came first. according to detty's definition, the egg came first.

it's all semantics and garbage.
2006-01-05, 12:47 PM #16
Originally posted by Dormouse:
Chickens are just an egg's way of producing more eggs.


Through Dormouse the egg wins.
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2006-01-05, 1:32 PM #17
I cracked ;)

I voted egg, if for no other reason than because Dor is the man.
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2006-01-05, 1:33 PM #18
The chicken, obviously.
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2006-01-05, 1:34 PM #19
As we all know, the chicken evolved from the egg. Eggs having ruled the earth for millions of years until a sudden extinction.
2006-01-05, 2:25 PM #20
...if its a singular chicken... then how did the egg get fertilized to produce a chicken... then again the egg has to have been fertilized in the first place in order to produce the resulting chicken...

then again, the developing chicken inside the egg could be counted as being a chicken- therefore making "chicken" correct, to some points of view...

i have not voted on this for there is no visible answer to that question, in my opinion, as of yet
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2006-01-05, 3:33 PM #21
I don't see how the lizard aspect of the riddle is silly. If you beleive in evolution then chickens evolved.
So therefore the egg came first, and what developed inside was a chicken, it's mother was a half-chicken half-lizard thingy.
Ok, so that does sound kinda silly worded like that, but you get my point... I hope..

Damn, now that I've actually read the thread I find my argument has already been made but with better wording, oh well.
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2006-01-05, 5:56 PM #22
The chicken, damn it!
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2006-01-05, 6:03 PM #23
Granted, the animal that evolved into the chicken would've had to come before an egg unless nature was able to make an egg under some sort of weird condition, but as far as I know the chicken wouldn't just appear. It would have to go through an evolution of something that's not a chicken until we eventually get to the first chicken(s) hatching. So, since you can't call what came before the chicken a "chicken" then the egg came first.
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2006-01-05, 6:33 PM #24
Originally posted by Detty:
"By egg I mean an egg containing a chicken"

Think about that for a minute. In evolutionary terms, surely the egg that first contained a chicken must have been laid by whatever came before the chicken?

Therefore, egg came first.


You have swayed me, Detty. I vote "egg."
2006-01-05, 6:38 PM #25
...I hate the fact Detty was able to say what I said in less than a paragraph and I didn't even see it. >_<
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2006-01-05, 6:49 PM #26
Everyone knows God made the chicken. Just like everyone knows Adam and Eve never had belly buttons.
2006-01-05, 7:42 PM #27
I'm going chicken. Who is going to maintain the egg without the chicken?
2006-01-05, 7:51 PM #28
Heres the real answer:
WHO GIVES A ****! It's just a rhetorical question, no solution.
2006-01-05, 8:06 PM #29
ha

this kid at my school was doing a poll for some class. would you rather BE the chicken or the egg. my answer, the egg, so i can get laid. i even made it up myself.

that's why i voted egg. chicken requires egg to have existed, egg requires chicken to have existed. so there is no answer.
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2006-01-05, 9:45 PM #30
Wouldn't be the egg? The common chicken has to evolve from some bird species and the genetic code for the chicken would be finally developed as it passed down through generations. So the first chicken to have the complete "common chicken" genes would have to come from an egg.

Of course, this makes no sense when you think about it. I don't even know what is the "common chicken." Or if there was even a point in the thousands of years of evolutionary history where one could define the "common chicken" from the ancestors.
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2006-01-05, 9:50 PM #31
The egg, because you can't hard-boil a chicken for breakfast-time goodness.
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2006-01-05, 9:52 PM #32
Originally posted by Wolfy:
The egg, because you can't hard-boil a chicken for breakfast-time goodness.


Yes you can.
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2006-01-05, 10:13 PM #33
Life evolves with every generation, so there's no such thing as "first chicken" or "first egg" (as in idividual entities).
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2006-01-05, 10:22 PM #34
What fardreamer said

(Heaps paradox can be compared to)
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2006-01-05, 10:52 PM #35
The first egg was laid by something that wasn't QUITE a chicken: ergo eggs came first.
2006-01-06, 12:01 AM #36
Neither. The primordial soup came first!
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2006-01-06, 12:13 AM #37
neither.

The Emon came first
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2006-01-06, 12:37 AM #38
Of course. I have always existed outside of space and time. Why was that ever in question?
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2006-01-06, 12:44 AM #39
LOL, this reminds me of a shirt my dad got me...there was an egg banging a chicken from behind with the words "Who came first?".

As far as the original question...NO SOLUTION
2006-01-06, 12:55 AM #40
I searched for it more for a laugh, and had low expectancies to actually find an article. However...
Which came first?

:rolleyes:
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