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Bugatti Veyron (fastest production car in the world)
2006-01-12, 7:05 AM #41
Originally posted by Ruthven:
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Fair points.

1) True, $1.4 million is a lot for a car. But I understand that F1s start around the $700,000 mark for the older models and go up to $1 million mark for the last few made. If you're spending that much on a car what's a few hundred thousand more?

2) The Veyron's W16 generates more power and more torque. Again we're taling $1 million supercars, efficiency be damned. The Veyron's is bigger :P

3) Both cars have great handling. Every review I have read of the Veyron love both its speed and its ability to corner. Anyways the 2 cars we are talking about are speed machines, if you want something with great handling get a Ferrari F40 or a Lotus Exige.

The Veyron can brake from 250mph to 0 in 10 seconds. The F1 cant even do 250mph. Also with 1001bhp the Veyron get to its top speed a hell of a lot faster than the F1.

4) Both cars spent hundreds of hours inside wind tunnels, I think they're both marvels of automobile aerodynamics. All reviews I've read say the Veyron feels planted and stable at 250mph. It actually has 2 driving modes; a normal mode with auto-adjusting spoiler and ride height for 'everyday' driving, and a speed mode where the car lowers and everything locks into position for pure speed.

5) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

6) See above. But I do agree with you, the F1 is a very sexy looking car. The Veyron looks impressive and quite imposing, but I wouldnt call it sexy.

7) It also reportedly feels weird to drive sitting in the middle and makes it a pain to get in and out of.

8) The Veyron is less like to be rusty by tomorrow or need a new head gasket :p

9) As far as cool cars go, Germany has BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche, and Audi. Britain has Aston Martin.... umm... Aston Martin again...? Err..... Well, TVRs are kinda cool.

10) Jeremy Clarkson > You

11) The F1 is a great car there's no denying it, but the Veyron is everything the F1 is and more. It's like comparing a Playstation to a Playstation 2, they do essentially the same thing but one of them just does it so much better.


Oh, and personally I'd take a Ferrari Enzo, Porsche Carrera GT, or even an Aston Martin DB9 over a McLaren F1 any day :p
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2006-01-12, 3:59 PM #42
I also think the Bugatti is better looking. Not to mention the fact that the word Bugatti sounds much cooler and richer.
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2006-01-12, 4:01 PM #43
Originally posted by Ruthven:
Spork, its pretty, but it still doesnt match the McLaren F1 for these reasons.

#1 McLaren F1 is cheaper

#1 McLaren F1's 6 litre non-turbo BMW V12 is more efficient

#3 McLaren F1 has EXCELLENT handeling (and breaks)

#4 McLaren F1 [from what I understand of automobile aerodynamics] has a MUCH better shape for high speeds and hugging the road.

#5 McLaren F1 was designed from scratch, meaning it didnt have to rely upon stereotypical Company body style, which holds the Bugatti back.

#6 McLaren F1 is 1000x better looking.

#7 McLaren F1 has 3 seats, and thus...

#7b McLaren F1 has a better centre of gravity/equilibrium, due the driver sitting in the centre of the car.

#8 McLaren F1 was designed over 10 years ago.

#9 McLaren F1 is british made. (ok, sheer bias there)

#10 McLaren F1 has not been dismissed by Jeremy Clarkson as second best to the Bugatti.

#11 McLaren F1 always has and always will have more international recognition as the WORLDS BEST SUPER CAR EVER MADE.



I think I have made my point.

Its nice Spork, but it's poor copy of what the McLaren successfully achieved.

ITS SPELLED BRAKES NOT BREAKS IT BUGS ME WHEN PEOPLE MIX THOSE UP!
2006-01-12, 4:49 PM #44
Hehe.... I give the record 6 months.

http://www.koenigsegg.com/movies/index.asp

Koenigsegg will not stand for this.
>>untie shoes
2006-01-12, 5:03 PM #45
Yeah if I had $1.4 million to spend I'd...I dunno, its a bad *** looking car. But 10 radiators? Christ where do you put them.
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2006-01-12, 5:09 PM #46
Also... What's the point. Buy a new vette for 60k... take it to the Lingenfelter speed shop... give them 30k... and you have a faster car on your hands

-0-60 1.9 seconds
-1039rwhp (different than the 1000 rated power of the bugatti... that is at the flywheel... not the wheels. At the wheels it's probably around 850-900)
-Top Speed=Enough.
>>untie shoes
2006-01-12, 11:28 PM #47
McLaren F1 could reach 244 mph, and some reports claimed 250 mph.

In any case, it didnt NEED 1001 bhp to achieve that, nor did it need 4 turbo chargers.

It'll need less fuel, thus more efficient.

oh and Bill, Koenigsegg also rules.


but this new Bugatti, it just dont work for me. The 1993 Bugatti EB110 (name?) was much prettier, and 218 mph was just about right.
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2006-01-13, 12:06 AM #48
Originally posted by Ruthven:
McLaren F1 could reach 244 mph, and some reports claimed 250 mph.


Under "Ideal" conditions.

IE, a huge as straight away.

The Bugatti has alot more acceleration, and doesn't have to strain to hit that kind of speed.
2006-01-13, 12:22 AM #49
but it uses the same amount of fuel as a bludy great big boeing 747 to reach that speed.

Bah, no more argueing, we'll agree to differ.
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2006-01-13, 12:32 AM #50
Originally posted by Ruthven:
but it uses the same amount of fuel as a bludy great big boeing 747 to reach that speed.

Bah, no more argueing, we'll agree to differ.



SO DOES YOUR MOM LOLZIER.

:P

The point being, I really don't care.

I hate cars that aren't Deloreans.
2006-01-13, 7:19 AM #51
The Veyron is electronically limited to 252mph. Theoretically it could go much, much faster.

If you can afford $1.4 million on a car, you can afford the petrol to go in it :p
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2006-01-13, 1:09 PM #52
Originally posted by Bill:
Also... What's the point. Buy a new vette for 60k... take it to the Lingenfelter speed shop... give them 30k... and you have a faster car on your hands

-0-60 1.9 seconds
-1039rwhp (different than the 1000 rated power of the bugatti... that is at the flywheel... not the wheels. At the wheels it's probably around 850-900)
-Top Speed=Enough.


I'd take the SRT-10 and put the $15,000 supercharger on it.
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2006-01-13, 2:29 PM #53
Regardless of all this hoopla... I saw a video once where a guy put twin turbo's on a McLaren. It became REALLY quick.
>>untie shoes
2006-01-13, 2:32 PM #54
Originally posted by Bill:
Regardless of all this hoopla... I saw a video once where a guy put twin turbo's on a McLaren. It became REALLY quick.


Any car with working twin turbos will become real quick...
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2006-01-13, 2:33 PM #55
When we're talking about a car that already tested at 241mph.... putting twin turbo's on it.... um.... yeah.
>>untie shoes
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