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Moore's New Documentary
2006-01-24, 10:20 PM #1
Its called Sicko

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=d3949dc1783b18ce



He really needs to find a different career...or drop dead

I think his stuff is just getting old...
2006-01-24, 10:29 PM #2
I like his stuff.
He was on some takl show about a year or so ago with a memo that Phizer had put out about him. It was rediculous.

-Something about a "portly, disheveled man with a film camera" or something.
2006-01-24, 10:43 PM #3
He is a portly, dishelved man with a camera.
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2006-01-24, 10:46 PM #4
Portly, yes, disheveled, how do you figure?
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2006-01-24, 10:55 PM #5
Lolzorz he's a fatty.
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2006-01-24, 10:56 PM #6
No, he's a burgerboy.
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2006-01-24, 10:57 PM #7
Oi! Nearly forgot. :)
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2006-01-24, 10:59 PM #8
Originally posted by Freelancer:
Portly, yes, disheveled, how do you figure?



The beard and his style of dress aren't exactly sharp. Then there are the faded hats he always wears.
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2006-01-24, 11:12 PM #9
[QUOTE=Unknown User]Its called Sicko

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=d3949dc1783b18ce



He really needs to find a different career...or drop dead

I think his stuff is just getting old...[/QUOTE]
Why? Even if you don't agree with him anything to get the public talking about problems facing our nation is good.
2006-01-25, 12:15 AM #10
Not really - his style of journalism is so one siaded as to undermine anything he is saying, and he often has the right idea. For instance, his stance that gun control laws are not good enough is globally probably near enough right, yet the way he goes about making his point makes anyone else who has similar ideas look as retarded as he is.

OH LOOK! I SURPRISED CHARLTON HESTON AND HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAAAY I'M SO CLEVER!

Proper objective journalism would get the job done right without hyperbole and obvious bias, let alone his penchant for the ridiculous and most likely a big injection of cash from someone in hollywood.

Moore = badman.
2006-01-25, 12:19 AM #11
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2006-01-25, 12:31 AM #12
Originally posted by Martyn:
Not really - his style of journalism is so one siaded as to undermine anything he is saying, and he often has the right idea. For instance, his stance that gun control laws are not good enough is globally probably near enough right, yet the way he goes about making his point makes anyone else who has similar ideas look as retarded as he is.

OH LOOK! I SURPRISED CHARLTON HESTON AND HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAAAY I'M SO CLEVER!

Proper objective journalism would get the job done right without hyperbole and obvious bias, let alone his penchant for the ridiculous and most likely a big injection of cash from someone in hollywood.

Moore = badman.

You're missing my point. In my experience Moore has stirred up more controversy and debate about sunjects that should be thought about. You're right, he's not a good journalist and he's quite the ******* but at least he creates debate when there usually is none.
2006-01-25, 1:31 AM #13
No, he doesn't create debate, he creates name calling and mindless **** throwing. Like the presidential debates.
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2006-01-25, 1:32 AM #14
WHERE'S MY BURRITTO???!!!!
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2006-01-25, 5:45 AM #15
Not to mention he flat-out injects lies into his "documentaries" that most viewers swallow gladly. He doesn't stir-up debates, he fuels morons with blank ammunition.
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2006-01-25, 6:12 AM #16
It's a shame everybody starts to yell 'idiot' as soon as Moore is mentioned, more people should see what he made.

Not because I think everything he says is true, but Fahrenheit 9-11 did bring up some very interesting points, seriously.

I was very, very, very impressed by that part where none of the senators would sign the objections to get the votes of those black people in Florida counted. To name but one part... there were lots of other connections and footage that made me go: "Why didn't we hear about this?"

Bowling for Columbine was great i.m.o. I think he made a very good point with that one.
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2006-01-25, 6:16 AM #17
I'm as liberal as they get, but I'm also an intelligent human being, and I realize that even though I agree with the basic beliefs of Moore, he is a simple minded, agenda based, partisan hack who spews nothing but unitelligent drivel under the guise of "journalism"
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2006-01-25, 7:06 AM #18
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
It's a shame everybody starts to yell 'idiot' as soon as Moore is mentioned, more people should see what he made.

Not because I think everything he says is true, but Fahrenheit 9-11 did bring up some very interesting points, seriously.

I was very, very, very impressed by that part where none of the senators would sign the objections to get the votes of those black people in Florida counted. To name but one part... there were lots of other connections and footage that made me go: "Why didn't we hear about this?"

Bowling for Columbine was great i.m.o. I think he made a very good point with that one.

The man's an idiot. Bowling for Columbine was a mind-numbingly stupid experience--the only movie he's made worth a damn was Canadian Bacon, and that's because it's not a straight documentary, and more a farce--a comedy. Fahrenheit brought up a lot of good points--which were mostly supported by hyperbole, lies, and misnomers.

Honestly, I don't see how anyone takes him seriously any more--and that's coming from a liberal.
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2006-01-25, 7:07 AM #19
Yeah, Canadian Bacon was the only movie Moore's made that I actually enjoyed.
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2006-01-25, 7:17 AM #20
Eh... I like his sense of humor. I'll probably watch it. He's very funny to me with his sarcasm and such. Plus he uses godlike cameras. He uses the same cameras to shoot his docs nowadays that they used on Revenge of the Sith.
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2006-01-25, 9:55 AM #21
I guess if nothing else, it should be entertaining. Regardless of how accurate or ethical his filmmaking methods are, they've always been amusing
2006-01-25, 10:37 AM #22
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2006-01-25, 10:55 AM #23
In forums, his line of work in known as "trolling". Why doesn't real life have admins?
2006-01-25, 11:02 AM #24
Quote:
Variety cited reports saying Moore has gone stealth -- planting hidden cameras in doctors' offices -- since he can no longer march announced and unrecognized into buildings owned by major corporations to confront executives.


I...fail to see how he can do that legally and not be arrested.
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2006-01-25, 11:22 AM #25
Holy crap, Moore made Canadian Bacon?

I feel so dirty now for liking a Moore film. :(
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2006-01-25, 11:25 AM #26
Originally posted by Freelancer:
Portly, yes, disheveled, how do you figure?


[http://www.umich.edu/~urecord/0405/Oct04_04/img/041004_Moore(014).jpg]
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2006-01-25, 11:49 AM #27
Quote:
Not to mention he flat-out injects lies into his "documentaries" that most viewers swallow gladly. He doesn't stir-up debates, he fuels morons with blank ammunition.


Yeah, I can't believe people take Moore seriously. He's just making movies based on serious real-life events to profit from them. And if he skews the facts a little to make it more interesting, it'll just be that much more profitable and 'controversial'.

A large percentage of the population is easily fooled by this crap, but he's not doing anything illegal - there's nothing anyone can do about it. And that is why I hate him so much. :mad:
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2006-01-25, 11:51 AM #28
It pisses me off more that people are dumb enough to blindly believe what he spoon feeds them.
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2006-01-25, 11:51 AM #29
Originally posted by Emon:
No, he doesn't create debate, he creates name calling and mindless **** throwing. Like the presidential debates.

Not in my experience.
2006-01-25, 12:06 PM #30
Originally posted by THRAWN:
I...fail to see how he can do that legally and not be arrested.


That's why he went into hiding, he can't be arrested if they don't know where to find him. It is highly illegal not just because they didn't give permission but also because of doctor/patient confidentiality and you can be punished big time for getting information protected under that.
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2006-01-25, 12:52 PM #31
I never did like Moore's polictics too much.

However, imagine what would happen if you put Michael Moore and Ann Coulter together in the same room and locked the doors. The resulting chaos would be fun as hell to watch. :p
2006-01-25, 1:02 PM #32
Quote:
Variety cited reports saying Moore has gone stealth -- planting hidden cameras in doctors' offices -- since he can no longer march announced and unrecognized into buildings owned by major corporations to confront executives.


Sicko - sounds like it to me

(this is all assuming that the report from some other report about some one who "has gone stealth" is accurate)



hehe - I just go a really funny picture of Moore "Going Stealth."
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2006-01-25, 1:33 PM #33
Bowling for Columbine killed more of my brain cells than the Doom movie.

Farenheit 911 was full of half-truths, which are the worst kind of lie.

Moore grates on my brain.
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2006-01-25, 1:50 PM #34
I hate Moore because he makes the left look worse than it actually is. He's the perfect strawman for the right, oh so easy to stand up and knock down.
2006-01-25, 1:51 PM #35
Originally posted by Pagewizard_YKS:
I never did like Moore's polictics too much.

However, imagine what would happen if you put Michael Moore and Ann Coulter together in the same room and locked the doors. The resulting chaos would be fun as hell to watch. :p



I'm sure it would be akin to a matter/antimatter reaction :p
2006-01-25, 2:17 PM #36
There's nothing good about extremists in EITHER direction, left or right, and that's why I dislike Moore.
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2006-01-25, 2:40 PM #37
If anything, at least Mr. Moore is humorous. Even though, but the majority of American measurements, I would be considered a moderate, (by those more politically astute, I am actually a classical liberal, a la John Locke or Thomas Jefferson) I actually give him a bit more credit than Ann Coulter. At least he's doing something a bit more entertaining in and of itself, in this case poking fun at everyone, rather than just simply grating on one's nerves alone. (hence, we see the two different types of idiot)

In particular, I noticed that if you pay closer attention to Bowling for Columbine, it seems that he's really laying blame on the media. (including himself!) At least that's something right; if we got rid of all of these media figures, we'd probably be a lot better off. :P

But nonetheless, it is also important that he does draw attention to important issues, even if it is done much in the way of "viral advertising." One thing that's certain is that in this world, (and it doesn't just apply to Americans; I see it just as much with Europeans) is that the general populace is amazingly under-informed, and in spite of any level of "voter turnout," rather poltically apathetic, in that they don't care to become informed. As Winston Churchill was famous for saying, "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

In this case, the issue of health-care is a rather interesting one. As a classical liberal, DIRECTLY, I see the oft-proposed solution of universal, government-run healthcare as a potentially dangerous thing; it ties up loads of government resources, and is like to wind up providing sub-par quality care anyway; I don't mean this as any jab, but I note the example of Brittain's NHS.

However, then there's the business aspect... Free Trade, while ultimately one of true liberalism's top priorities, has shown itself to be a tricky, and hard to handle subject; it wasn't meant for people to f*** with the system to their advantage; in this case, third-world countries with no minimum wage or laws requiring safe working conditions. Hence, this is an ARTIFICIAL "comparative advantage," and logically shouldn't be in the system. Unfortunately, until the US government can invade and topple every third-world regime, and replace it with a fully democratic system that's at least close to on a par with Western Europe or North America, (or Australia!) there's little that cone be done there. So perhaps a government-run health care system would be a boon here, as it would help level the US against the third-world, by eliminating those extreme health care costs from having American workers. However, this is obviously a long shot, and needs more examination before it is blindly implemented.

Originally posted by Pagewizard_YKS:
I never did like Moore's polictics too much.

However, imagine what would happen if you put Michael Moore and Ann Coulter together in the same room and locked the doors. The resulting chaos would be fun as hell to watch. :p

Oddly enough, I doubt that they have been within about 500 miles of each other. I think it just might be some sort of polarity here. If they were in that close proximity, the resulting detonation could liekly level the United States... Best send them up into space then, and perhaps use them "Project-Orion" style, to launch a spacecraft to some other star system... Preferably a spacecraft filled with people who are only slightly less abhorrent.
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2006-01-25, 11:10 PM #38
I still stand by what I said at the top :p
2006-01-25, 11:31 PM #39
If the information in the film is illegally obtained, how can it legally be distributed?
2006-01-25, 11:33 PM #40
A person who is taped withput their knowledge can't be show publicly unless they sign a waiver.
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