Did hollywood run out of ideas or something? IMO, 5 out of 10 movies that come out these days are so bad that the trailers and commercials on TV pretty much scream at you to keep away. (I'm specifically thinking of the upcoming Garfield movie, which desecrates the comics I read as a kid and will probably make Cat in the Hat look good by comparison)


Of course, you occasionally get great stuff like the LOTR trilogy in more recent times, and older stuff like Speed but great films like that are few and far between.

At this point, I and probably a lot of other people here, are wondering, what the hell happened?

Here's a few theories that i have:

1. Everything has been done to death. Basically, producers are so strapped for ideas that they make movies that are boring and predictable b/c we've seen the same gimmicks, plot tricks, and canned dialogue so many times before.

2. CGI. CGI has great potential, but it's incredibly overused and abused. People are getting to be so jaded on cgi that it has more or less lost its wow-factor. Producers are relying on CGI instead of acting to carry the movie, and this is a bad thing unless the movie has an exceptional plot to begin with. However, I believe thatabundant CGI has ruined many a film that would have been better off with less. *cough* jar jar *cough*

Agree/disagree? Post away!

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Mybe its because there were jsut as many bad movies 'back then', but the general public has since forgotten/not been born early enough?

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I partially agree.

Most movies seem to have weak endings. It's like the wirters come up with some really good ideas but cant think of how to finish them.

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I'm getting bored of cartoons/comic books being made into movies.

The only good superhero movies are Spiderman and X-Men.

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I agree with all that's been said.

I think the producers and all them could care less anyway; they're just doing it for the money. They probably don't care about how good the movie is, as long as it brings in the green.

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Or maybe not spiderman. I thought that movie sucked really badly.

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Hellboy was good.

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The first 2 Batmans were good. Batman and Robin gave off a really bad gay vibe though. they are making a new superman movie too, not to mention a fantastic 4 movie. but i read George Cloony was gonna be one of the guys in the Fantastic 4, so meh. and i think CGI is getting better depending on the diretor and movie. But as an inspiring film maker i can say that not all movies out are bad. i enjoyed Kill Bill (1&2) and more recently Ernest goes to Jail.

Well, seems to me like all they're doing are remakes and movie adaptations. Every movie that comes out these days is either from a comic book, a video game, or is a remake of an older film.

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That's because movies are live action versions of good stories, and Hollywood screenwriters seem incapable of coming up with a good story for themselves. Take a look at best picture winners and nominees for the past several years. Almost all of them are book adaptations.

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*smack* Superman should be in there.

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I don't know, I didn't really like the LotR trilogy that much, but it seems that's just me. And I wouldn't say it's not a quality film per se.

Though it does seem that most movies now are adaptations. Or they suck. It's usually one or the other.

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The Thomas Jane Punisher movie was pretty good. It was surprisingly original considering they threw out almost every revenge-movie cliche there is.

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There was some smooooth CGI in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban - especially moving from outside to inside the castle via the clock tower - very smooth indeed.

Some new movies are good, Spiderman is good, but to be honest, the CGI does look to be very obvious to me - that said, I still love the film: It's sheer class.

When I think long and hard, my favourite movies are quite old - Blade Runner (and yes I've read the book), and my absolute favourite - Uncle Buck

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Spiderman 1 wasnt that great for me, seemed a little mediocre for me. but thats me. butttt Spiderman 2 does look very awesome

SciFi B Movies > *

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BladeRunner is a GOD of Sci-Fi movies. To think all of that was done WITHOUT computer aid is incredible. The fact that directors claim to not be able to do all these fancy effects without a computer irritates me. If older movies like BladeRunner could do similar things without computers, you have ZERO excuses.

CGI is one of the major problems. It's become a crutch. There is so much blue screening and adding in later, that Actors have nothing to act TO. As a result, the acting is sub-par and in some cases, flat out sucks. Lucas is a perfect example of this. Granted, he has scenes that can't be done any other way, but to do EVERYTHING inside a computer instead of spending a couple hundred extra to build a set for actors to act to is absurd.

Then you have the story element. I swear to you, these days, if you come up with ANYTHING that has even the remotest possibility of earning money, and you can find an idiot in Hollywood to think it's good, you've got a film. I think it isn't that fact that it's all been done. I think it's the fact that we have a large number of people who don't have a decent imagination and the fact that the public has gotten used to crap. Look at TV. We have God knows how many ridiculous reality shows, sitcoms that ARE NOT funny, and more violence than anything else. People don't read nearly enough. Or if they do, it is also trash. Hollywood cashes in on this with their stupid movies and unimaginative directors.

Any movie right now that has been based up on a book is sure to have been massively butchered to make it more exciting and dumbed down for the audience. Any remake is sure either suck or not be nearly as good as the original.

Movie trailers now are almost a joke. They show so much of the movie in many cases, that you see ALL of the important parts of the movie in the trailer except for the ending, and that is easily infered. Why sit through a 2 hour movie if you can have a condensed version in a minute or so? Or, they tell you nothing of the movie at all. Why should I pay money to see something I know NOTHING about?

Gah. I stoped being coherent I bet. Movies today suck for a variety of reasons. Back in the day there were flops too, of course, all you hear of now are the successes. But those flopped for different reasons. I think plot was usually a big one. Today, that appears to not matter. I don't know about you guys, but I go to the movies to be entertained with a story. Virtually NOTHING has been released within the last 7 years of my life that has made me want to see it RIGHT THEN.

Bah, I've ranted enough.

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WHAT THE HELL?

COULDN'T

I miss the old-style Disney films. I mean, Bambi.
I haven't quite decided which I love more, Lion King or Alladin. Yes, it's all lovey-dovey, ridiclous, almost cheesy, but it totally works. Made me reach for the tissue-box anyway. Lion King 2 had good music, too.
Then again, Shrek was fantastic. I haven't seek Shrek 2 (no spoilers >:), but it looks good. It has John Cleese, it can't be bad.

yeah the garfield movie makes me want to kill... the comic was great... the cartoon was good too but the movie is just wrong...



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I just checked Rotten Tomatoes about garfield and all i can say is wow... average score of 2.5/10 and a percetn score of 0%.

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They have done everything... too much. I am almost afraid the same thing will happen to video games sooner or later.

Garfeild is so bad. every comic is the same. the cat eats a lot, we get it. its not funny.

Okay Maddox...

Yeah, Garfield used to be the best.

Calvin and Hobbes > *

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I meant recent superhero movies, and amid all the crap, Spiderman and X-Men are floaters. Er, that is- oh, nevermind.

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Exactly. People only remember the good movies from the past - the bad ones obviously aren't worth remembering - and then assume from their incomplete memories that movies used to be better than they are now.

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Yes, but those movies also focused on something completely different. They focused more on plot. Now it seems all directors care about is making the audience walk away impressed with flashy Special Effects generated on computers.

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recently, the movies i have seen dont make me care about the characters and what happons to them. It's not fun to be able to figure out the next move of the character before thay do it, it becomes fake, rehersed and monitous, basically boring. modern movies suck.

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True for many movies. Or they put a hot celeb in, and [other stuff I've forgotten].

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Uhhhhh. Because people like crap, and crap is easy to make? I think if some one did something about a fighter pilot in WW2 that would pwn! All that special effects is crying for something good.

I can't even pretend to be surprised. Much like when Cat in the Hat came out.

Dear Hollywood,

Stop raping our childhood memories.

Yours sincerely,
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Has anyone ever read The Dead Father? It's a really cool and unique novel if you can manage to find it. There's a part that described how people enter the dead father's leg [the artificial one which contains confession booths] and confess their sins/thoughts which are recorded, jumbled up with other confessions and then played back at the local cinema for the good of all.

It sounds like a good idea but of course in real life it would lead to massive blackmailing.

There are loads of decent movies still coming out.. obviously there are loads of crap ones too...

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Bladerunner was one of the best films I saw. However, most storylines have been done to death... and if you've ever read "The Hero With A Thousand Faces" it pretty much states how each hero or heroine goes through several stages, and links it in with religion and stuff.

Hmm... maybe someone should get a script of some Vampire or Mage RPs and make a film out of that - a GOOD film.

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I don't know if you have noticed, but videogames are WAY past their prime time...

Early to mid-90s then games were still original and a lot of good titles were released. Now it's just a handfull of titles and they are all copies of each other. It has already happened...

'though I don't mean to say that no good games are being released anymore; there are still a select few. But I also think good films are still being released. You just shouldn't look at those big commercial releases.



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[This message has been edited by Seb (edited June 09, 2004).]

Oooh! Oooh!! And I just remembered The Bourne Identity is also awesome, and the sequel is looking like being just as good too.

Old book, modern film... maybe it's got an excuse to be good... hmmmmmm.....

Oh, and Mort-Hog, it may well be COULDN'T, but it certainly is also "Aladdin"

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