its for Windows Vista
http://megagames.com/news/html/pc/halo2pc-vistaonly-bungieqna.shtml

what do your guys think?

Well, to me it sounds like they're using the horrible port of Halo 1 as an excuse to make Halo 2 Vista only, while from a development standpoint that's utter and complete BS.

I really can't find any legitimate reason that's it's any more than a way to push some gamers into upgrading. Thankfully, I don't care enough about playing it to do that.

And thus, another nail is in the coffin for me keeping XP

yeah. heres one gamer who isnt going to be drawn in by MS' really sad attempt to make me buy vista.

Me neither. It would be funny if the game totally tanked.

Yay! Suckage on the next level!

(Suckage, I mean another bad port)

Right! Hell yeah! Don't buy vista!

Make sure you think that's a good idea when, you know, we have the whole 64-bit thing coming around.... just buy technology that is backwards compatible and never let it unleash its full potential.

Yeah, sounds like a great idea to me. Let's just sit here and forget all about technological progression.

lol@Bill

There's a partial backport/emulation of the Vista libs to XP. I wonder if Halo 2 would work with those.

Does nobody remember when everyone was like XP/2K/ME etc. OMG NOES!

How many of you use XP?

Windows Vista has a new development model for 3D graphics and user interfaces. If Microsoft released a DX9 game right after a major update of their flagship product it would be bad PR. It would encourage other developers to continue making software using legacy interfaces and Vista would not get embraced at all.

If you were planning on upgrading to Vista anyway, why would this affect your decision to do so? The only people who should be whining about this are the people who weren't planning on upgrading, which - in spite of their idiotic assertations - includes everybody who ever says "WELL I'M NOT BUYING IT NOW!"
Since OpenGL 2.0 is borked on Vista, too, you should probably switch to Linux if it's such a big deal.

You're being unreasonable. There's absolutely no reason to make it Vista only.

[QUOTE=IRG SithLord]You're being unreasonable. There's absolutely no reason to make it Vista only.[/QUOTE]Yes there is.

Yeah...I was planning on upgrading anyways.

No biggie for me.

I'm sure I'll upgrade at some point, but I'm in no rush. Releasing Halo2 for Vista isn't something that's all that important.

Well, it inevitably will unless it's upgraded like crazy for DX 10. Come to think of it, wasn't Halo for PC upgraded for DX 9, and wasn't it the first DX 9 game?

Oh my, I had no idea. You should call Microsoft right away and tell them! Before they make a terrible mistake!

for people who didnt know here are what the requirement for Vista are at this time:


CPU: Intel x86-compatible 32-bit or x64-compatible 64-bit microprocessor(s) (Dual Core systems will be supported)

Motherboard: ACPI-compatible firmware is required.

Memory: At least 512 megabytes (Encouraged to use ECC memory [5])

Graphics Card: A DirectX 9–compatible GPU that is capable of supporting Windows Vista Display Driver Model (WVDDM) and has 64 megabytes of VRAM

Hard Drive space: At least 1.5 gigabytes for installation files, possibly more, depending on the version of Windows Vista
The following requirement is not applicable to beta 1, but has widely been reported to be applicable to the final version.

Display: Protected high-definition digital content, such as next-generation HD DVD movies, is intentionally displayed fuzzy unless viewed on a High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP)-compatible monitor. Very few existing displays and no retail video cards are compliant with this standard.


also about gcards, ati 9500+ and fx up should be set for it, though they said apg and pci e, said nothing about just pci.




so not only will some of us want to upgrade OS, but we need to upgrade are computers (some of us), then we might just be able to throw in Halo 2 for the hell of throwing more $$ in Bill's pocket

Not to mention that if a computer isn't capable of running Vista, there's no way in hell it would be able to run Halo 2.

It wasn't a horrible port. Halo PC is better than Halo for Xbox if you are playing online or playing singleplayer. (Xbox one doesn't work on live). The only reason to have halo for xbox is for multiplayer. Other than that Halo PC may be the same game, but the fact that it is on PC makes it way better. Higher res pictures, it has great textures that you can view better now, it takes little to no time to load a level, the graphics are smooth, and its a lot of fun to play online. But anyway, I hope they do the same thing for Halo 2.

That's a killer. The other stuff at least SOME people have.

How many of us watch HDCP-protected content anyway? How many of us have Bluray or HD-DVD drives? Hell, how many of us even watch DVDs on our computers? I stopped doing it about 5 years ago.

It's not a big deal at all.

My brother has the Vista, I dunno, I guess demo?

All my games seem to run fine on his machine. Some a little better.

I watch DVDs on my computer, but only because I dont own a TV.

/me hugs libdvdcss2...

[QUOTE=Double Helix]It wasn't a horrible port. Halo PC is better than Halo for Xbox if you are playing online or playing singleplayer. (Xbox one doesn't work on live). The only reason to have halo for xbox is for multiplayer. Other than that Halo PC may be the same game, but the fact that it is on PC makes it way better. Higher res pictures, it has great textures that you can view better now, it takes little to no time to load a level, the graphics are smooth, and its a lot of fun to play online. But anyway, I hope they do the same thing for Halo 2.[/QUOTE]
Uh... no.... It's not that much better. In fact, it's largely WORSE in many areas. Especially multiplayer. Halo on Xbox is superior.


I watch DVDs on my computer.... mainly because I like the picture on my monitor better and my computer has the only surround system in the house.

Bungie's News Release if any of you care...

I give it about 24 hours (or less) before a workaround is devised for this.

No it's not. It just happens to be the only half way decent shooter on Xbox.

[QUOTE=Double Helix]It wasn't a horrible port. Halo PC is better than Halo for Xbox if you are playing online or playing singleplayer. (Xbox one doesn't work on live). The only reason to have halo for xbox is for multiplayer. Other than that Halo PC may be the same game, but the fact that it is on PC makes it way better. Higher res pictures, it has great textures that you can view better now, it takes little to no time to load a level, the graphics are smooth, and its a lot of fun to play online. But anyway, I hope they do the same thing for Halo 2.[/QUOTE]
Haha. Oh god, no.


However, oh god not to this as well. Halo multiplayer for PC is at least existant, and there are more maps and whatnot. The only way to play multiplayer halo on the Xbox is in no way supported, laggier than it would be on PC (that's saying something), and rather complicated for your average gamer.

Fuel Rod Cannon in multiplayer. Overpowered. WAY Overpowered.
Rocket Warthog. Useless. It doesn't fire anywhere near straight at all.
Banshees in levels that shouldn't have them (Blood Gulch).
Flamethrower. Nice gun, but not really worth picking up.
Weapons like the Pistol should have been nerfed slightly to account for easier aiming with the mouse.
80% of the players are immature little ****s. Of course, this is true for virtually every online game in existance. It's why I stopped playing.
Lack of force feedback. I don't know about anyone else, but after playing Halo on Xbox, playing it on PC SUCKED without that.

Those are the few gameplay reasons I can come up with right off as to why it sucks signifigantly on PC. If you'd like, I could probably be arsed to put in the game disk and play a few rounds in MP and then come back with more.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]HHalo multiplayer for PC is at least existant, and there are more maps and whatnot. The only way to play multiplayer halo on the Xbox is in no way supported, laggier than it would be on PC (that's saying something), and rather complicated for your average gamer.[/QUOTE]
That's the ONLY thing I ever LIKED about Halo PC. That I COULD jump into a game anytime I wanted and play without having to get people at my house for Split Screen or System Link.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Yeah...I was planning on upgrading anyways.

No biggie for me.[/QUOTE]

^ I'm with Yoshi

My TV is a 14" Sony. My computer is a 15" LCD with a 5.1 system on it. If I'm not doing a "watch a DVD before I fall asleep", I watch it on my computer.

In addition, my laptop is a useful portable DVD player.

It's a big deal.

That said, would I install Vista on this system? Hell no. I'd definitely upgrade my entire system before even thinking of installing Vista.

that is all in MP, xbox doesnt even have online cap. with halo. and most servers i have beeen in have been good players expect for the every 1 in 5 that ruin it. pistol is suppose to be aim easy, ITS A PISTOL and dont go comparing online MP with a game on PC vs the same game on xbox that doesnt have online mp

What part of, "This is why Halo on PC sucks" did you miss?

how does that make it suck on PC? it makes it better. and btw i didnt miss what you said, i just have a good habit of ingoreing people's bad opinions

Wow. You deserve to be banned for life for this little comment right here. Seriously.

Halo for PC sucked--it's pretty much a well-known industry standard on how NOT to port a game.

i was joking/ expressing my opinion which u can choose to ingore cause you could think it is a bad one, should you be banned for life too?

If you didn't do that, maybe you'd argue slightly better.

How does that make it suck?
The Fuel Rod gun can be spammed all to hell.
The Rocket Warthog, which would be nice for anti-vehical duty, is useless since it can't fire straight.
Banshees in small levels means they have NO WHERE to fly because of the level's ceiling, and thus, people run them along the ground. Makes for cheap kills.
The Flamethrower? By the time you're close enough to use it, you're probably dead from enemy fire. Good for an ambush maybe, but how often have you been ambushed in Halo PC multiplayer? I've never seen any team coordination.
Pistol took a wee bit more skill in Halo Xbox to use, as thumbsticks are harder to control. This is not so with a mouse, which makes aiming far easier, and thus the pistol far more deadly in the hands of a lesser skilled person.
Force Feedback is a personal perference. I like to feel when I'm being shot, when grenades go off closeby... you get the idea.
Immaturity of players cannot be argued.

DVDs aren't protected under HDCP.

being able to move a thumb stick vs mouse being more or less skillful? w/e u say buddy