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What religion/lack thereof are you?
2006-03-13, 10:28 PM #121
Proud agnostic, but I don't go around telling people their beliefs are wrong. Wish everyone else had the same respect.
2006-03-14, 5:09 AM #122
Originally posted by Aglar:
Proud agnostic, but I don't go around telling people their beliefs are wrong. Wish everyone else had the same respect.


yah i am agnostic, agnostic can't say someone beliefs are wrong because none of us actually know.
you could say that religion is a device for control, a device for catergorisation, you could also argue that it doesnt matter if its a device or not.

humans need to classify and catergorise everything they possibly can, they need to explore everything and give it a name, and when we cant classify things religion fills the gaps. Hence all the big questions that have us stumped are always related to religion; death, creation, why we are here?

its scary for humans to accept that their may be no meaning in something.

i think you are brave to be an athiest, but i think it is foolish because you have no clue, i could put you in a box that tells you how the box works and it could all be a lie and you could use logic to explain how the box works but you have no idea what is outside that box, perhaps logic is a logical tool.

an open mind and a lack of preaching is the most respectful approach.
2006-03-14, 5:29 AM #123
Why is Pastafarian not on the poll?

I have been touched by his noodly appendage.
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2006-03-14, 5:58 AM #124
Realist.
2006-03-14, 6:04 AM #125
Originally posted by gothicX:
Pecimist.


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2006-03-14, 7:15 AM #126
Originally posted by Ric_Olie:
Why is Pastafarian not on the poll?

I have been touched by his noodly appendage.


LOL, good question. Much luck not putting jedi on there - I know that all the agnostics and atheists would flock to them ;). Wanted an honest answer
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2006-03-14, 1:53 PM #127
I think we can all agree on one thing:

I brought down the Religious discussion forum. [http://www.hellraiser64.com/tdir/forums/images/smiles/cheer.gif] It was like the special olympics, somebody sorta won, but we were all still retards for 'debating' religion. :p

(Goddess forgive me for being so blunt. >_<)
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2006-03-14, 4:36 PM #128
I choose other, as I have my own basic sets of beliefs, and not sure what I want to believe. Hell, no one should at my age.

I should add I'm almost all the way athiest. I should also remind you that this doesn't mean I rule out all religions.
2006-03-14, 5:34 PM #129
[QUOTE=Hell Raiser]It was like the special olympics, somebody sorta won, but we were all still retards for 'debating' religion. :p

(Goddess forgive me for being so blunt. >_<)[/QUOTE]

She won't. That was a very wrong thing to say. :p
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2006-03-14, 7:36 PM #130
I'm a conservative non-denominational Christian. I'm also a creationist (assuming there are some christians out there that "wouldn't" be one of those).

I'm also the type of Christian that doesn't force his beliefs on others in an attempt to convert them. Why? Because true conversion only happens within - you have to change through your own free will in order to have a true conversion. Because of that, I don't go around sermanizing to anyone that doesn't accept the gospel. I will only witness to those that are interested in learning or seeking the Word of God.

"If you're gonna plant a seed, make sure the soil is prepared and able to nurture the seed." is the motto I live by as a Christian.
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2006-03-14, 7:40 PM #131
Originally posted by SavageX378:
Because of that, I don't go around sermanizing to anyone that doesn't accept the gospel. I will only witness to those that are interested in learning or seeking the Word of God.


What about your signature? :p
2006-03-14, 8:13 PM #132
Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) is scary. I decided to watch one of his videos that are freely available online and he started to draw parallels between believing in evolution and being a satanist, nazi and communist all at once. Then he went on to say it's all part of a new world order and that we ought to read the "Protocols of Zion", a faked text oft used for anti-semitism! Anyway that's probably best left for another thread some day.
2006-03-14, 9:15 PM #133
SavageX, what church do you go to? Harvest? Mag?
2006-03-15, 10:15 AM #134
Originally posted by Centrist:
Why as part of serving God? Because that's what Jesus taught. Why not for the sake of helping people? Well, in your earlier post, you said our purpose is to survive. That sentiment doesn't impart a strong motive to help others. Christianity teaches selflessness and is about the opposite of just looking to continue the species.

I know this point has already been debated a bit, but it made me think of an article I read in New Scientist this week:

Quote:
ALTRUISM is often thought of as something uniquely human, but it turns out chimpanzees can be selfless too. The discovery implies that some of the underpinnings of human sociality may have been around for millions of years.

Felix Warneken and Michael Tomasello of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, watched the reactions of three captive-raised young chimps when a familiar human caretaker dropped an object out of her reach. All three chimps were more likely to pick up the object and hand it to the caretaker when she reached for it than when she merely looked at it (Science, vol 311, p 1301). This suggests the chimps understood the human's goal and tried to help, Warneken says, even though they received no reward or praise.

Human toddlers also helped in this way and performed other, more complex helping tasks. "A tiny bit of helping behaviour is already present in chimpanzees, but they're not as flexible as human infants," says Warneken.

Such altruistic helping behaviour is common in humans, but had never been documented in other animals before.
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2006-03-15, 10:25 AM #135
Three chimpanzees possibly immitating what they've seen means that it's existed for millions of years?

Er...
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2006-03-15, 10:29 AM #136
I don't see why they'd have seen it before, it's not often someone drops something out of their reach.
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2006-03-15, 10:57 AM #137
My point is, three chimpanzees were raised in captivity, among humans, who often help each other reach for stuff. Now, if this was observed in nature, I'd say yes, coming to the conclusion that it implies that that trait has existed for million of years is sound. But, in this case, they're reallllly stretching it.
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2006-03-15, 11:27 AM #138
Wolfy, how about reading the whole article before coming to a conclusion based on one paragraph, eh?
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2006-03-15, 11:50 AM #139
Uh, what? Their conclusion is drawn off of a flawed observation. If they had said, "Is a recent development in animals" or "exists in animals exposed to human society", I'd agree with their conclusion. But they're saying that this trait has implicity existed in chimps for millions of years without any evidence that supports such a conclusion.
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2006-03-15, 11:56 AM #140
Pastafarian!

or

Wardite.

I just kinda take bits and pieces of what I like from each religion.
2006-03-15, 12:14 PM #141
Originally posted by Wolfy:
Uh, what? Their conclusion is drawn off of a flawed observation. If they had said, "Is a recent development in animals" or "exists in animals exposed to human society", I'd agree with their conclusion. But they're saying that this trait has implicity existed in chimps for millions of years without any evidence that supports such a conclusion.


My point is you don't know that. Read the whole article and they might say something about that.
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2006-03-15, 3:22 PM #142
Originally posted by Freelancer:
My point is you don't know that. Read the whole article and they might say something about that.


anyone got a link to the article?
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2006-03-16, 3:31 PM #143
I quoted the whole thing, it was just a short piece in the "This Week" section, not a feature. Here's the link to it online.

Quote:
But they're saying that this trait has implicity existed in chimps for millions of years without any evidence that supports such a conclusion.


No, they said
Quote:
The discovery implies that some of the underpinnings of human sociality may have been around for millions of years.
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