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The (unofficial?) Massassi photography contest
2004-06-10, 6:01 AM #1
If you're an avid photographer and after reading the topic thought "Hey, great, I'll participate!" I'm sorry, but for now this is just an idea.

I was wondering if you guys are interested in such contests, where your only prize would be fame among Massassians, and...that's it, really. Oh, and you'd gain experience and probably learn from others. I know a lot of you have digital cameras by now. I'm thinking of organizing it so I'm supposed to know a lot about photography...well, guess what? I don't. In fact, I'm a newbie. I mean, I know the basics and then some, but that's it.

Here's how it'd work:

The winner of each contest decides on the theme for the next contest, as long as the majority of those interested agree, so it shouldn't be impossible like "the now-abandoned space station MIR viewed from the Earth's moon". You may not use a picture that you, and only you, didn't take specifically for the contest, between the date of its beginning and deadline (how this can be monitored is beyond me, so I guess it'd be based on trust). You may only enter with one picture. You can, however, post multiple pictures, provided you choose only one that will enter the contest. Massassians will vote on the winning photograph. The voters will, however, be limited to those who enter the competition, this is to avoid cheating by voting multiple times or voting for yourself with an alias. You may not vote for yourself. You are allowed to crop your pictures, I haven't decided on more evident forms of digital manipulation. Pictures will have a filesize limit.

I'm pretty sure I left out things that I forgot to add, but I think you get the picture, if you'll excuse the pun.

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2004-06-10, 6:17 AM #2
I think the only manipulation allowed should be color manipulation, like Black&White, Sepia, or some others. Maybe some soft focus effects.

I'm interested. Digital Rebel at the ready.

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2004-06-10, 6:26 AM #3
You should have two winners, one a people's choice award (popular vote) and one a photographer's choice (like you said).

Makes it much more interesting for the rest of us [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-06-10, 6:26 AM #4
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Schming:
I think the only manipulation allowed should be color manipulation, like Black&White, Sepia, or some others. Maybe some soft focus effects.</font>


That's about what I had in mind.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I'm interested. Digital Rebel at the ready.</font>


Great camera, that.

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2004-06-10, 6:28 AM #5
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Spork:
You should have two winners, one a people's choice award (popular vote) and one a photographer's choice (like you said).

Makes it much more interesting for the rest of us [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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Good suggestion. (I'm open to them all...)

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2004-06-10, 7:49 AM #6
Well if you're gonna pick a theme you better hurry, cause I'm about to finish my roll of film here.

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2004-06-10, 9:35 AM #7
I'm in!

So we have to take the pictures specifically for the contest? Ones that we took previously aren't allowed?

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2004-06-10, 9:51 AM #8
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kyle90:
I'm in!

So we have to take the pictures specifically for the contest? Ones that we took previously aren't allowed?

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That's right.

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2004-06-10, 10:42 AM #9
Very original idea. I'm in.

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2004-06-10, 11:01 AM #10
I'm in, with cake.

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2004-06-10, 11:32 AM #11
Oh God. I thought the topic said "pornography contest."

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2004-06-10, 11:51 AM #12
it did.

and i'm in.

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2004-06-10, 11:52 AM #13
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DogSRoOL:
Oh God. I thought the topic said "pornography contest."

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2004-06-10, 12:15 PM #14
I'm in.

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2004-06-10, 12:29 PM #15
I'd submit images i took over a year ago with a digi cam i borrowed.

SO my selection is limited but i'd be cool to see other folks results.

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2004-06-10, 4:24 PM #16
I'm in.

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2004-06-10, 4:27 PM #17
can't wait. pick a theme let's go now [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2004-06-10, 4:34 PM #18
Pick a theme!

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2004-06-10, 9:30 PM #19
Okay, looks like we have plenty of interested people.

First off, to participate, all you have to do is post the entering picture (like I said you can post as many as you want, as long as you pick the one you like best), so you don't have to declare yourself a participant separately.

I'm trying to create some sort of simple website which will help organize this thing. I'll let you all know when it's up, and we can get this started.

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2004-06-11, 12:14 AM #20
The (intentionally simplistic) website is at http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/mpc/index.htm.

Now we need the rules. Here's my proposal:

- Winner of last contest decides on theme for the next, provided there's no objection from the majority
- You may only use a picture that you yourself have taken specifically for the current contest and theme
- You may post as many pictures as you want, but only one may be your entering picture
- There will be two voting categories: popular vote and photographers' vote. Photographers' votes decide the winner who chooses the next theme
- Digital manipulation is limited to cropping, filter effects (b&w, sepia, vivid, focus effects etc.) and amending defects such as barrel distortion; I guess the only things you may not do is move objects, change objects' shape/size and copy objects from separate images, if anyone can think of other drastic forms of digital manipulation that should be prohibited, please let me know
- No obscene images; this includes nudity, racist or otherwise offensive material
- You may not vote for yourself
- Time between the beginning and deadline of a contest is one week; this is the standard, however, and a time-demanding theme may be given a further deadline on popular demand
- All optical filters (i.e. concrete filters placed in front of the camera lens) are allowed
- The maximum filesize of each image is 150kb (kilobytes)
- The maximum resolution of each hot linked image is 1024x768; hyperlinked (images linked to without using the IMG tags) images do not have a resolution limit
- If you choose to hotlink (by using the IMG tags) images, you should only do so for your entry image; please hyperlink to at least other images you may post
- By posting an image and declaring it your entry you automatically give me permission to upload that image to the Massassi.net Photography Contest website if it is elected winning image; this does NOT, however, automatically make your image public domain

Suggestions are warmly welcomed. If you feel these rules lack something or something should be different, feel free to express your opinion.

[Made some additions.]

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[This message has been edited by Krokodile (edited June 11, 2004).]
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2004-06-11, 2:30 AM #21
Why is nudity obscene?

I can understand why its prohibited here. But I don't see why you should call such a thing obscene.

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2004-06-11, 2:52 AM #22
Catsby says that if he had a digital camera he would take part. Unfortunatly, Catsby does not [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2004-06-11, 3:02 AM #23
Ricky Henderson would also like to participate in the contest, but Ricky Henderson is too old.

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2004-06-11, 3:08 AM #24
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Oberfeldwebell:
Why is nudity obscene?

I can understand why its prohibited here. But I don't see why you should call such a thing obscene.

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Bad wording on my part. I meant "No nudity or racist/otherwise obscene images".

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2004-06-11, 9:09 PM #25
The idea was kind of waiting for the Americans and their timezones to approve of the rules.

So I'll wait some more. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-06-11, 9:12 PM #26
seems solid.

I'm in.

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2004-06-11, 9:13 PM #27
oh and... I suggest you limit the digital effects a bit more.

I just think the focus should be more on the actual photograph itself than the finished presentation...

Being able to use blurs and glows and filters like that can change the composition quite a bit. Things like sepia and black/white... color things and saturation changes aren't so bad. those seem better to me.

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2004-06-11, 9:31 PM #28
A lot of the digital manipulation is to decrease the gap between poor and pro-level cameras, so people could fix photographic blemishes. If the general flock agrees on limiting digital manipulation more, however, it will be done. What say you (mr. and ms. general flock)?

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2004-06-12, 9:31 AM #29
This sounds like an entirely good idea (for a change). Count me in.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Krokodile:
A lot of the digital manipulation is to decrease the gap between poor and pro-level cameras, so people could fix photographic blemishes. If the general flock agrees on limiting digital manipulation more, however, it will be done. What say you (mr. and ms. general flock)?

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Digital manipulation should be extremely limited. This is a photography contest. The objective is to take photographs, not showcase your skill in photoshop. That being said the only manipulation that you should allow are color effects (B&W, sepia, etc). the others such as focus effects should be left to the camera itself. Like the rules say distortion is out of the question.

The only rules you need to add is that
1. there should be one high quality sample and one preview sample and one thumbnail. Just make sure you settle on reasonable sizes and have a minimum and a maximum in pixels per inch. Anywhere between 150 to 300 is acceptable (and obviously in raw image dimensions as well).
2. Allow plain borders for the image complete with copyright information and possibly the name of the piece. Almost like the picture has been mounted on a matte frame for viewing. If the artist so chooses to do so, of course.

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2004-06-12, 9:42 AM #30
If an image is manipulated digitally, the original picture should be posted for reference. And I'm in.

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2004-06-12, 10:10 AM #31
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BV:
If an image is manipulated digitally, the original picture should be posted for reference. And I'm in.

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This should only be done once a winner has been decided. Then only to verify that the winner did not alter the image digitally in any way that violates the rules. Obviously you ruin the integrity of the final product if you put it next to it's unfinished source.

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2004-06-12, 10:58 AM #32
Thanks for the feedback. If there's no sudden massive objection, digital manipulation will be limited to color effects and cropping, and like Farix suggested, adding name/copyright information to the image, which of course I have nothing against.

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2004-06-12, 11:19 AM #33
I find it highly offensive that this contest is only open to Digital Photographers. i'm sure my fellow purists would agree. i'd join, but i dont see the point if i cant demonstrate my skills properly. In the darkroom. but whatever. i graciously bow out at this time.

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2004-06-13, 8:19 AM #34
It is sad to be limited to digital photography only. Film photography is where the true skills can be found.

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2004-06-13, 8:38 AM #35
Updated rules, please state either your approval or disapproval (in which case, please also state what should be amended or added) of them:

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">- To enter the contest, all you need to do is take a photograph suitable for the theme, post it, and declare it your entry
- Winner of last contest decides on theme for the next, provided there's no objection from the majority
- You may only use a picture that you yourself have taken specifically for the current contest and theme
- You may post as many pictures as you want, but only one may be your entering picture
- There will be two voting categories: popular vote and photographers' vote. Photographers' votes decide the winner who chooses the next theme
- Digital/darkroom manipulation is limited to cropping, color effects (b&w, sepia, vivid, color hues, etc.), and adding borders and/or copyright information (name, date, etc.)
- No nudity (artistic nudity is fine by me if only Massassi allows it, which I doubt) or obscene images; this includes racist or otherwise offensive material
- You may not vote for yourself
- Time between the beginning and deadline of each theme is one week; this is the standard, however, and a time-demanding theme may be given a further deadline on popular demand
- All optical filters (i.e. concrete filters placed in front of the camera lens before taking a picture) are allowed
- By posting an image and declaring it your entry you automatically give me permission to upload that image to the Massassi.net Photography Contest website (http://www.angeltowns2.com/members/mpc/) if it is elected winning image; this does NOT, however, automatically make your image public domain

The following are guidelines, not rules with which failing to comply results in disqualification of your entry, but it is recommended you follow them in order to maintain the threads pleasant for everyone:

- The maximum filesize of each image should be 150kb (kilobytes)
- The maximum resolution of each hot linked image should be 1024x768; hyperlinked (images linked to without using the IMG tags) images do not need a resolution limit
- If you choose to hotlink (by using the IMG tags) images, you should only do so for your entry image; please hyperlink to at least other images you may post</font>


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2004-06-13, 8:42 AM #36
I'm ready, let's go [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2004-06-13, 8:48 AM #37
Patience, please. I strive for organization.

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2004-06-13, 8:52 AM #38
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DogSRoOL:
Oh God. I thought the topic said "pornography contest."

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Anyone else notice that someone posts something like this in every single damn thread. "I thought it said pornography contest lolololololL!!!!1111"


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2004-06-13, 3:52 PM #39
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Raoul Duke:
Anyone else notice that someone posts something like this in every single damn thread. "I thought it said pornography contest lolololololL!!!!1111"


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No, but I do see people do this whole !!!11111111(one one one) thing too much.

It makes me want to punch every person who has ever done that by reaching across the internet and hitting them through thier monitor.

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2004-06-13, 4:42 PM #40
That would be cool to see.
And I bet it would win the photography contest. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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