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Dark Forces 4?
2006-04-18, 4:03 PM #41
Indeed. I'd really like to see something like that, especially if it involved a criminal underground theme...

On that note, I'm slowly building up my skills in order to get a JA mapping project up and running. I hope to go along those same lines- just old fashioned DF-style gunslinging as a shadowy criminal. Unless ES4: Oblivion has aything to say, I should be getting some things done soon. And then there's my idea for the Tusken mod... God, it could be so cool if it wasn't impossible.
2006-04-18, 4:38 PM #42
Originally posted by SavageX378:
Yeah, I know what ya mean. JO and JA lacked the polish that DF and JK had.

What made it worse (at least for me) was the absolute HORRID AI. The Jedi AI was good but the AI for the non-Jedi was terrible. All they did was just stand there and shoot at you. Slicing through a bunch of stormtroopers got dull pretty fast because they just stood there, waiting for you to slice them to bits. The AI in JK was so much better. That says a lot considering that JK lacked a path finding system!

Not only that, they constantly fell off of high ledges and killed themselves. It was quite funny to be running around in Nar Shaddaa and all of a sudden see a Gran fall down and go splat from out of nowhere. At least JK had a "Max step" AI system that prevented the AI from taking a step larger than 0.5 JKUs, thus preventing them from falling off ledges.

Why do I never see any of this OMG HORRIBLE AI!? I've never seen a Gran in Nar jump off a ledge and kill himself...I found the enemies in there a real ***** to beat!

Wtf guys?
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2006-04-18, 6:46 PM #43
Originally posted by Zloc_Vergo:
Why do I never see any of this OMG HORRIBLE AI!? I've never seen a Gran in Nar jump off a ledge and kill himself...I found the enemies in there a real ***** to beat!

Wtf guys?


He's talking about JO/JA AI. You misunderstood. :)
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2006-04-18, 6:48 PM #44
I played JO. I've played Nar. I've never had a Gran jump off the ledge and kill himself, and I find those goddamn sniping Rodians a pain.
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2006-04-18, 6:50 PM #45
I delt with those guys by strafing little by little around a corner until I could see the edge of their arms and then disintegrating them.

2006-04-18, 7:39 PM #46
I basically humped them to death, IIRC
2006-04-18, 8:14 PM #47
I love the over-the-top saber moves and force powers in JA. JO sucked though. It felt like a rehash of JK with all the good weaopns and force powers gone and all the "level remakes" sucking horridly. I hated the BGJ level and the stupid cutscenes of the valley of the jedi looking like... like... well, bad.
JA, on the other hand, doesn't really feel like a JK game at all. It feels... more insane. Like DMC with lightsabers (though I don't ctually know what DMC's like, just judging based on screenshots).

-I like JA. And you don't. So there.
2006-04-18, 8:16 PM #48
Originally posted by Venesectrix:
Are there any roomers of another Dark Forces or Star Wars FPS right now? Just curious.


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2006-04-18, 9:07 PM #49
Originally posted by Sparrowhawk:
Indeed. I'd really like to see something like that, especially if it involved a criminal underground theme...


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I always thought it would be cool to see an FPS involving the stories of the OT bounty hunters (ignore Vader).
2006-04-19, 6:04 AM #50
Yeah, me too. It'd be awesome to play as IG-88 or Bossk. Bounty Hunter for PC, only better. And with the OT Bounty Hunters! :D
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2006-04-19, 8:14 AM #51
when I first played JA, i thought it was the greatest game ever. Yeah right. Now that I've beat it several times, yuo really get sick of the lightsaber fighting. It's the best out there, but still, you want more. I actually want to hold a saber handle and have it react in game.
2006-04-19, 10:38 PM #52
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
True, but JO and JA didn't have many movie locations either. Some, granted.


It seems JA tried its best to include random stuff from the movies. They made a crappy-enough plot to include Hoth, Chewy, Tatooine, Jawa Crawler (whatever the hell it's called), Falcon and so on. It was stupid, especially the Hoth part.
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2006-04-19, 11:52 PM #53
Originally posted by Echoman:
It seems JA tried its best to include random stuff from the movies. They made a crappy-enough plot to include Hoth, Chewy, Tatooine, Jawa Crawler (whatever the hell it's called), Falcon and so on. It was stupid, especially the Hoth part.


Yeah well, actually my only point was that the majority of levels were new locations.
ORJ / My Level: ORJ Temple Tournament I
2006-04-19, 11:59 PM #54
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
Yeah, me too. It'd be awesome to play as IG-88 or Bossk. Bounty Hunter for PC, only better. And with the OT Bounty Hunters! :D


yes, I would love a game with Bossk as the main character. that would be the best game evar!
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2006-04-21, 10:13 AM #55
I accualy enjoyed the SP in JO and JA, but the MP was horrid in both it just had a completely diffrent feel. In JK gameplay was exactly the same in SP and MP.
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2006-04-21, 10:21 AM #56
Meh... the good ideas are never done.
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2006-04-21, 10:36 AM #57
Originally posted by JDKNITE188:
I always thought it would be cool to see an FPS involving the stories of the OT bounty hunters.


Closest thing to that is Star Wars: Bounty Hunter, which is ok (it follows Jango Fett before Episode 2).

2006-04-22, 7:24 AM #58
Originally posted by Zloc_Vergo:
I played JO. I've played Nar. I've never had a Gran jump off the ledge and kill himself, and I find those goddamn sniping Rodians a pain.


They don't jump off. They WALK off. That's how bad it is.
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2006-04-22, 8:38 AM #59
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Meh... the good ideas are never done.


LEC has generally had good ideas for most of their games, but they f*** up the implementations.
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