I don't mean to de-rail, I just have a quick question:

I just bought a big container of NLarge protein powder. It recommends 4 "scoops" for a serving, and it comes with a rather large looking scoop. I have been getting a different brand up until now, and it recommended 2 much smaller looking scoops per serving.

Is anyone familiar with the product? Does it actually mean 4 of those gigantic scoops (making for a pretty thick sounding shake)?

Check the protein content per serving..it could just have less protein content..causing you to use more..causing you to buy more.

Yeah, read the nutrition label and see what it says. You're probably going to get 10-20 grams of protein per serving.

Let's see; 52 grams of protein per 4 scoop (152g) serving. 1 scoop holds 75 ml. I suppose they mean 4 of those, but it still seems like a lot.

That's some really hardcore stuff. That's what you;d take if you want to bulk up.

I think I wind up with about 40g from two scoops of my stuff..sounds like yours is less protein-dense. Not a big deal, except it might end up being more expensive due to the simple fact that you're consuming more of it.

<-- off for a run..bbl.

Yeah, I'm trying to bulk up a fair bit. I've gained 50 or so pounds in my 2 years at university, but much of that was just filling out my girlish figure. I had a 26 inch waist! I'm at 180 lbs right now, and I'm aiming for 210-220.

My old stuff had about the same density as yours, JLee. This new mix seems to have a lot of other ingredients that I don't know the functions of, though. I guess I'll have to either get off my arse and research, or just see what happens to me . As for the price, I got a lot more of this for only a little more cost, so it probably evens out fairly well.

That'll be one hell of a task unless you aren't done filling out naturally.

All this talk of protein supplements is great, but has anyone bothered to calculate their actual protein intake before shelling out for "Get Big" powder? Most western individuals consume more than adequate amounts of protein to enable them to add muscle mass.

I normally hate anecdotes, but using myself for an example, I put on 15kg from weight training while eating a normal diet. Perhaps, it would be a good idea to try weight training without supplements first to see what happens. If nothing does, alter your diet, then followed by supplementation. You'll find that if you eat a healthy diet, you won't need to take anything extra. Likewise for vitamins etc, unless you're actually deficient in something, all you're doing is flushing money down the toilet.

How old are you? Were you still growing when you did that, because putting on 30+ lbs of muscle when you are fully developed is a mighty feat that many a person wishes the could wishes were possible. I gained 25 pounds from the start of my sophomore year to the end of my junior year of high school, and I was weight training, but not in a manner to put on 25 lbs. It was my body developing naturally.

I like to have as much strength to as little bulk as possible.

I went without supplements for pretty much the entirety of last year. I did have some decent gains during that time, but anyone I've talked to says that I should consume at least my bodyweight in grams of protein per day, if I want serious gains. I tried getting all this through meals alone, but it's really tough. I know it can get pricey, but I won't have a life this summer, so the cash is available.

Also, yeah, it will be a challenge to get to where I want to be, but I like to aim high .

I went from ~140 to 157lb in several months..shooting for 190 within the next 2-3 years.



I have a trainer/nutritionist, so I'm in good hands.

Another good way to excersize is to watch porn.

Alot of porn.

Nothing but porn.

It's a good aerobic and anorobic excersize if you can get into it.



But you'll have to learn to be ambidextrious, otherwise you're going to be hella asymmetrical.

23 at the time (~2 years ago). I was pretty skinny back then, but I was very much finished with the growing.

You can still be filling out at 23, but either way, well done.

I was at the gym and I wanted to see how much weight I'd put on after the first year of college. And the scales said 179?! Aaah! I started making resolutions to go on diets, eat more healthily, etc. etc.

This morning I checked the auto scale in my parents' bathroom. It said 149. X_x

yay for failing to operate a traditional scale.

Or the gym has it scaled up to guilt you into staying a member of the gym.

Can anyone make anything out of this? Please?

ok so i read some more stuff, talked with Daft via email and have decided to commment a little more,

first off:

i weight train 4 days a week and run 6 days a week, thought i'd clear that up, i lift monday tuesday ( run on both ), get a solid 30 minute stretch in and do a distance run on wednesday, then lift thursday and friday, running on both days, saturday is another solid stretch and light running day

my offseason workout schedule was rediculous, monday, tuesday, thursday, and friday i was at the gym twice a day


about the stretching, studies / my strength/condiitoning coach has pounded into our heads that stretching up to 3 times a day can actually hurt you not help you, one 15-20 minute stretch is optimal, agree to disagree in this case, but i can assure you that i followed his guidelines to the . and i am a thousand times more flexible than i was.

about the protein powder, 2 scoops is all you need, any more than that and your just going to piss it out, in essence wasting it when you could be saving it and having it last longer, thats my reccomendation


although i do have a pitcher specific workout plan, the same basic principals can be applied to all types of workouts, its better that Daft starts learning the proper ways early in his exercising career than develop bad habits that can carry over and get him hurt.


if your actually interested, i have stopped lifting weights all together because i got so big during the off season that when i started pitching again in the spring i was so bulked up that i lost alot of my speed cuz my ligaments were surrounded my muslce, they were stronger but not as elasticky. That is when i started my stretching program. My size decreased but my strength remained which is optimal.

In addition right now this is my workout plan, i do this between 4 and 6 days a week:

Monday - Thursday:
10 minutes - fast paced treadmill run - run at about 7.0 miles/hour
10 minutes - fast paced biking - level 12
10 minutes - fast paced stairmaster - hills
10 minute - fast paced - eliptical machine - level 12, vertical ramp setting 2


Friday:
10-12 Sprints up a huge hill at a local park
3 - 4 mile run

Saturday:
5 mile run


ive basically switched to all cardio workouts, and im really starting to notice a difference in my muscle tone.

i put on 25 lbs in 9 months from our athletics program

Thanks. True, I could still have been filling out, but I'm pretty sure I stayed the same size and shape from about 16/17 onwards until I did some weights etc. It probably helps that I was never that big to begin with.

Yeah. Being thin/small to begin with, it's more likely that the results will be more dramatic. All I was getting at is that it's not easy for a fully grown man to put on that much weight quickly. The body has it's limits and all.

I'm not going to try to conquer this 3-page monster of a thread, but I do want to recommend a great and friendly fitness site and forum for anyone interested in nutrition and exercise. The "Beginner's" forum inside the forums has a bunch of great sticky's to educate you on some basic nutritional and/or excercise philosophies and facts.

The website: http://www.johnstonefitness.com
The forums: http://forums.johnstonefitness.com

Good luck!

-Archi