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2004-06-21, 2:15 PM #1
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5261571/

Why was this not posted earlier? Do you not understand what this means for future space travel?

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2004-06-21, 2:19 PM #2
Yeah, it means it will be controlled by Microsoft. Just great.

Also, did you notice that their flight control systems had serious computer problems? I bet it was running Windows.

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2004-06-21, 2:29 PM #3
Not if they can get more funding from other sources, which is likely now that they've proven the program is/will-be-more successful.

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2004-06-21, 2:35 PM #4
Yea, I actually had an invitaion to go, but my parents said no. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]
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2004-06-21, 2:41 PM #5
And you didn't sell it on Ebay? What's the matter with you?!?!

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2004-06-21, 2:48 PM #6
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Brian:
Yeah, it means it will be controlled by Microsoft. Just great.</font>


Well, no. Paul Allen, not Microsoft. Paul Allen owns TechTV, but that doesnt mean Microsoft controls it . . . if it did, Patrick Norton wouldnt have a job anymore.

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2004-06-21, 3:36 PM #7
Bah, in 20 years we'll have a space elevator... THEN you will see a revolution in space travel. But this is cool nonetheless.

NASA take note: it was done for only $20 million

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Stuff
2004-06-21, 3:39 PM #8
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kyle90:
Bah, in 20 years we'll have a space elevator... THEN you will see a revolution in space travel. But this is cool nonetheless.

NASA take note: it was done for only $20 million

</font>


And it's also on a much smaller scale and done far more simply. That right there deletes much of the cost.

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2004-06-21, 3:39 PM #9
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Brian:
Yeah, it means it will be controlled by Microsoft. Just great.

Also, did you notice that their flight control systems had serious computer problems? I bet it was running Windows.

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The world is not Linux vs. Windows. Good grief.

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2004-06-21, 3:55 PM #10
Well the world isn't technically about computers either... hehehe... ah I got nothing. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2004-06-21, 4:04 PM #11
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kyle90:
NASA take note: it was done for only $20 million

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That's nice, let's encourage the fad of taking the lowest price tag over the better-built piece of machinery.

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2004-06-21, 4:46 PM #12
The better built piece of machinery is over a decade old. It is NOT a better built piece of machinery anymore. This isn't for carting satellites up into space either, this is supposed to be a small ship that can take 3 people into space for travel or tourism. This is according to what I've heard.

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2004-06-21, 5:10 PM #13
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">...when deep-space exploitation ramps up, it will probably be the megatonic corporations that discover all the new planets and map them. The IBM Stellar Sphere. The Philip Morris Galaxy. Planet Denny's. Every planet will take on the corporate identity of whoever rapes it first. Budweiser World.
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2004-06-21, 7:06 PM #14
The 20 million dollar price tag seems small compared to NASA's Space Shuttles, but you have to realize there is a huge difference between going into orbit and going into "space" as they did.

Regardless, this is still awesome.
2004-06-21, 7:10 PM #15
A space elevator in 20 years? I'll eat my left foot if that happens.

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2004-06-21, 7:10 PM #16
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tracer:
The world is not Linux vs. Windows. Good grief.
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Seriously.


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2004-06-21, 7:13 PM #17
the galaxy is so big that every human could probably have their own solar system and still have plenty of stars left over.



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2004-06-21, 7:15 PM #18
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Freelancer:
A space elevator in 20 years? I'll eat my left foot if that happens.

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a space elevator would not be practical. What about wind shear in the atmosphere blowing the whole thing over?

No, its all about the space escalator, or the space ladder. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]



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2004-06-21, 7:16 PM #19
They should've made it look like an X-Wing. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]
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2004-06-21, 7:18 PM #20
The thing I never understood about it is, don't things in orbit want to travel a lot faster than the earth rotates? So you'd have to have rockets running 24/7 at the top to slow it down.. or something.

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2004-06-21, 7:20 PM #21
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Freelancer:
The thing I never understood about it is, don't things in orbit want to travel a lot faster than the earth rotates? So you'd have to have rockets running 24/7 at the top to slow it down.. or something.

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exactly, it would snap the space elevator. If that happened, I'd feel sorry for the poor b@stard inside. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]



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2004-06-21, 7:38 PM #22
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kyle90:
Bah, in 20 years we'll have a space elevator... THEN you will see a revolution in space travel. But this is cool nonetheless.

NASA take note: it was done for only $20 million

</font>


And when Sputnik was launched into space half a century ago, they thought we'd have moon colonies by this time.

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2004-06-21, 8:53 PM #23
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Freelancer:
The thing I never understood about it is, don't things in orbit want to travel a lot faster than the earth rotates? So you'd have to have rockets running 24/7 at the top to slow it down.. or something.

</font>
Nah, from what little I know, a steady orbit is when you are constantly falling "around the earth." You are moving fast enough that you are always falling, but never hit the ground. Think about satelites: usually no fuel onboard.

In a steady orbit, the speed is maintained by the constant fall. As it decays you need to accelerate, or you fall. Happens to satelites from time to time, and the owners determine if it's worth fixing or just letting it burn up.

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2004-06-21, 9:11 PM #24
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by phoenix_9286:
The better built piece of machinery is over a decade old. It is NOT a better built piece of machinery anymore. This isn't for carting satellites up into space either, this is supposed to be a small ship that can take 3 people into space for travel or tourism. This is according to what I've heard.
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I'm sorry, could you please point out to me where I said the better built piece of machinery was a craft built over a decade ago? I can't seem to find where I said such a thing. I can find a post I made about future programs being determined by price tag and not quality...but you know, maybe I'm blind...

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2004-06-21, 9:25 PM #25
If you are interested in reading some really great near-future science fiction (which discusses exactly this type of stuff), take a look at the novel Firestar, by Michael Flynn. It's a 4-book series, but start with the first one (Firestar). You can actually read the first and consider it done if you want.

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2004-06-21, 9:30 PM #26
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DogSRoOL:
They should've made it look like an X-Wing. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]</font>

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2004-06-21, 9:37 PM #27
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In the very distant year of 1997...

This just totally fits here. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2004-06-21, 9:43 PM #28
People sure were optimistic back then.
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2004-06-21, 10:19 PM #29
True. But it was better than living of life of CONSTANTLY worrying about when the Soviets were going to blow up the world.

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2004-06-22, 7:12 AM #30
Whoops, didn't mean to start a flame war here. Anyways, I realize 20 years is probably too short of a timescale for a space elevator, but it has been shown that it is feasible and practical, at least it will be when they can make nanotube fibers a bit stronger.

There is even a website: http://www.spaceelevator.com/

As for the $20 million thing, yes, I realize that this was a lot less complex than the space shuttle or anything, but its amazing that it could be done for so little.

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Stuff
2004-06-22, 7:55 AM #31
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Roach:
That's nice, let's encourage the fad of taking the lowest price tag over the better-built piece of machinery.

</font>


lol, that reminds me of a quote from the movie Armagedon, which said something like

"Right now your'e sitting on top of several thousand moving parts all built by the cheapest contractor the US governemnt could find" or something like that.

I don't remember the exact wording.



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2004-06-22, 10:04 AM #32
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tracer:
The world is not Linux vs. Windows. Good grief.

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What are you on? The computer industry is probably the 3rd-most profitable industry in the world, with the first being Government and the second being the Catholic Church.

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2004-06-22, 10:16 AM #33
Yeah, but...the world is not Windows vs. Linux. Good grief.

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2004-06-22, 10:27 AM #34
I think he means you don't have to turn it into a Microsoft stoning every time something happens which is even in the slightest bit related to Microsoft.

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2004-06-22, 10:27 AM #35
Hmm. It would be great if the craft was bigger. But I assume they are working on that. Tourists like big.

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2004-06-22, 11:42 AM #36
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Pagewizard_YKS:
lol, that reminds me of a quote from the movie Armagedon, which said something like

"Right now your'e sitting on top of several thousand moving parts all built by the cheapest contractor the US governemnt could find" or something like that.

I don't remember the exact wording.

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Yah, was something like "You realize that right now we are sitting on top of several million pounds of rocket fuel, one nuclear warhead, and something that has over 200,000 moving parts, all built by the lowest bidder.

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2004-06-22, 12:04 PM #37
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Emon:
I think he means you don't have to turn it into a Microsoft stoning every time something happens which is even in the slightest bit related to Microsoft.

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Why not? Microsoft deserves a stoning. A hearty one at that.

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2004-06-22, 1:50 PM #38
I realize the space elevator thing was a while back but if you're interested in stuff like that, 3001: Final Odyssey is a good read.

Yes, I had to look at the book to spell 'Odyssey' right.
2004-06-22, 6:25 PM #39
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dj Yoshi:
Why not? Microsoft deserves a stoning. A hearty one at that.
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Hmmm...could it be because this rather large step in history had little-to-nill to do with Microsoft? Nah, that can't be the reason at all...

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2004-06-23, 3:03 AM #40
That's it. To all you Bill Gates haters, look.

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