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Code orange terror alert...
2003-12-22, 1:59 PM #1
...just in time for the holidays. I think it was around yesterday that America raised the terrorist attack alert color to orange (which means be on high alert) nationwide. Oh well. But honestly, does anyone really takes into consideration of these color alerts?

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2003-12-22, 2:01 PM #2
I don't, but that's prolly b/c i live out in the middle of nowhere, it would be a waste to bomb out here or whatever they would do.

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2003-12-22, 2:03 PM #3
I thought this was gonna be about a new mountain dew flavor. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2003-12-22, 2:05 PM #4
We have a terror alert system?

Seriously, I don't know a single person who cares what color/level it's at, they change it every 5 minutes just to try and scare Americans into thinking the big bad wolf is lerking just around the corner.

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2003-12-22, 2:28 PM #5
Times like these, I wish I invested in gas masks.

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2003-12-22, 2:32 PM #6
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Roach:
Seriously, I don't know a single person who cares what color/level it's at, they change it every 5 minutes just to try and scare Americans into thinking the big bad wolf is lerking just around the corner.

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That's what I've been trying to convince people.. but nooooo.

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2003-12-22, 3:16 PM #7
But then if there were no terror alert and terror struck everyone would say why didn't they alert us.
More specifically they would say, 'Why didn't W alert us?'
He unfairly gets the rap on this one. They want to know why he didn't see it coming 2 years ago, and if he does or doesn't see it coming next he still catches flack for it.


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2003-12-22, 3:18 PM #8
It's all a conspiracy duuuuuude.

*raises two finger peace symbol*

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2003-12-22, 3:42 PM #9
Terror Alert System is just so they can say "If somebody drops a 747 on your front lawn today, at least we told you we were on Orange instead of Yellow. So you shouldnt get mad at the govt for not telling you about the attack." Really...they have no more specific information on any new attacks. So does stepping up the security mean that two days ago our federal and local law enforcement officials were just sitting back and slacking off? If they've been doing their job, then does stepping up the color just mean that they'll go back to stopping 80 year old people at the airport for a body search while letting the people with bombs in their shoe get on the plane?

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2003-12-22, 4:59 PM #10
personally i think thay rais the level because of the holidays, and only that reason thay believe:
*random terrorist* "all america will be sleeping and drunk! now is the time to attack!"

well actully it would be smart to attack at a time when most of the forces of defence(law, military not in iraq) are at home with families.

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2003-12-22, 5:28 PM #11
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BV:
It's all a conspiracy duuuuuude.

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/me kicks BV

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2003-12-22, 5:44 PM #12
Instead of colors, they should have pictures. If it's Red, it should show a guy running for his life with a mushroom cloud in the back ground. If it's yellow it should show a terrorist with a 9mm. If it's blue, it should show a terrorist flicking a rubber band at someone. btw, this wasn't my idea. I wish it was though.

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2003-12-22, 5:50 PM #13
The color alert status is mostly for people in places of security (cops, military, etc)
Normal civilian losers like ourselfs can virtually ignore them.

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2003-12-22, 5:58 PM #14
I'm feeling mauve today.

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2003-12-22, 5:59 PM #15
... Who's Mauve, and why are you feeling him/her? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif]

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2003-12-22, 6:57 PM #16
It's a color.

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2003-12-22, 7:05 PM #17
Terror Alert is going to go up EVERY holiday now isn't it? I think Ge Dubbya Bush just likes watching the colors change.

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2003-12-22, 7:16 PM #18
Pfft, orange. I won't worry until it goes to plaid.

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2003-12-22, 7:24 PM #19
Personally I would like catch phrases, like:

1.) Feelin' fine
2.) Slightly concerned
3.) Raised Eyebrow
4.) OH MY GOD! WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE! RUN YOU FOOLS!!! AHHH!!!

But it's annoying they don't say why. It just arbitrarily changes. If they know there is a high risk, how? And why don't they share the information. Staying at home really does no one good if the water has been spiked...

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2003-12-22, 7:25 PM #20
I'm still waiting on someone to sue over the alert system using colors because they're color blind and therefore it makes even less sense to them than everyone else.

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2003-12-22, 7:34 PM #21
I have five words: the whole thing is ridiculous.

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2003-12-23, 7:54 AM #22
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by EtherealAngel:
I have five words: the whole thing is ridiculous.

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Indeed. If anything, the color system is just an indicator of when something isn't going to happen - every time they've raised the alert level and told Americans to prepare for an imminent terrorist attack, nothing happens. It seems as if they just want to keep everyone scared. Anyone remember the biological/chemical weapons attack scare just under a year ago? The government managed to convince everyone to buy out every store's supply of duct tape and plastic wrap...


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2003-12-23, 7:56 AM #23
The government didn't convince ANYBODY to buy ANYTHING. That was the media. The media and the government are not to be confused.

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2003-12-23, 8:05 AM #24
The media is the government.
I saw a documentary on CBC Newsworld on the media in Iraq. Well known anchors such as John Roberts from CNN were told, straight up, that they were only to report US casualties if it was OK'ed by the government to do so. CNN was not allowed, by the government, to show US casualties on TV.
Same goes for anchors of all the major US and UK broadcasters. They had a british journalist on the show that quit his job over it because he could not believe that his government was controlling the media to that extent.
These were anchors and jounalists most Americans see everyday saying this. Not some kook that no one will believe.

Make no mistake, CNN, MSNBC, CBS and others are well reigned in by the government.


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2003-12-23, 8:08 AM #25
Oh please. The media must have permission to EVERYTHING they report. If they go to a crime scene, the cops there dictate what they can and cannot report. It's for safety purposes.

In the case of the war, the military present dictates what they can and cannot report. This is nothing new. If you were to be interviewed on camera, you can tell them what they can and cannot show of you (whether it be your face, identity, something you said, etc)

It is COMPLETELY unfair and absurd to say the media is controlled by the government.

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2003-12-23, 8:26 AM #26
Evad, just because the government controlled media in Iraq does not mean that media is controlled in general. For example, did the government force the media to convince people to buy gas masks? No. Did the government force the media to cover the Micheal Jackson arrest 24/7? No.

Besides, the media was traveling with the military and protected by the military. They had to play by the military's rules.
2003-12-23, 8:52 AM #27
But it is.
I want to know when and where what goes on in Iraq.
I have to go to 'alternative media' sources to get the truth. Then most people say, 'Well it wasn't on MSNBC so it can't be reliable.
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This from the Egyptians. If this were to be braodcast on CNN you know whoever OK'ed it would be fired immediately.
'What? We are not welcome in the middle east? But CNN and the white house said we were. Didn't you see the pictures on MSNBC? Iraqi's love us.'
Where did I get that quote? No. Not from USA Today. If I told you, some might not believe it. Some might.

For the most part with everyday stuff, I'm sure the government doesn't care. But the stuff that affects our lives and the important stuff...

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2003-12-23, 9:27 AM #28
Actually, Evad, it really doesn't affect our lives [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]
Much less yours, considering you like don't even live in America and all...

But yeah, like I said earlier, anything the media reports, they must have permission to report it from their source. And of course if you go to a different media, they're going to have different sources, which will tell you something different.
If you want to know what's going on over there so bad, why don't you pack your bags and head on over [http://forums.massassi.net/html/rolleyes.gif]

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2003-12-23, 9:29 AM #29
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Correction:
The government didn't convince ANYBODY to buy ANYTHING. That was the media. The media and the government are not to be confused.

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I suppose you're right. I meant 'those in a position of influence', but typed the wrong word. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2003-12-23, 9:56 AM #30
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2003-12-23, 10:01 AM #31
I want to have the job of the guy who changes the bulb and flips the switch. I'll bet he gets paid pretty well...

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2003-12-23, 10:09 AM #32
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">why don't you pack your bags and head on over</font>

To be honest, I'm too much of a wimp. Heh... (at least I can admit that. LOL!)

It's just that I don't like the American propaganda machine. It's the exact opposite of the other guys propaganda machine. People on both sides seem to eat it up like we're sipposed to.
So, I try to get info from both sides and try and see what's in the middle.

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2003-12-23, 11:26 AM #33
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">But yeah, like I said earlier, anything the media reports, they must have permission to report it from their source. </font>


There's a huge difference between the media not being able to release information like the victims' names after a car accident and the US government (or any other government) handing news agencies a bunch of prepared documents and saying "here's what you're allowed to report today".

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2003-12-23, 11:29 AM #34
Shhh don't bring that up or the FBI will be at your door aresting you as a terriorist and an enemy of the free people. I think I've heard about this before oh yah now I remember it was the same thing in Russia during the cold war.

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2003-12-23, 11:39 AM #35
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tracer:
There's a huge difference between the media not being able to release information like the victims' names after a car accident and the US government (or any other government) handing news agencies a bunch of prepared documents and saying "here's what you're allowed to report today".

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Yes, but as someone stated earlier they're with the US military, which means they play by their rules.

People, keep in mind that the military over there has a job to do and wants to get it done. Nosey people like us and the media are nothing but in the way.

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2003-12-23, 11:45 AM #36
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">People, keep in mind that the military over there has a job to do and wants to get it done. Nosey people like us and the media are nothing but in the way.</font>


...that is absolutely shocking. The military is only over there because the officials you elected (maybe not you if you don't vote, but you get the point) chose to do so. You should be the one trying to keep a leash on them, not the other way around.

And as for the "embedded" BS that went on in Iraq, you're exactly right in saying that the reporters had to "play by their rules", but don't you see how that's total propaganda? If the journalists were to go and report instead of tag along with the army, they wouldn't be subject to any restrictions, and we'd have gotten a much clearer picture during the war.

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2003-12-23, 11:48 AM #37
They can go somewhere else and report, but they choose to do it with the military. And I never mentioned WHY the military is over there, I just said that they are and they have a job to do. It really doesn't make a difference one way or another what we know... it's just being nosey, imo.

I'm not saying you shouldn't have interest in what's going on in the world, but if you're like Evad and "want to know when and where what goes on in Iraq," then personally I think you should head on over there yourself if it means that much to you. Why rely on the incompitent media to gather information for you?

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2003-12-23, 11:54 AM #38
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Why rely on the incompitent media to gather information for you?</font>


Because I don't believe the "media" is incompetant, in and of itself. Sure, there's bias, but journalists were allowed to do their jobs, they would have.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">It really doesn't make a difference one way or another what we know... it's just being nosey</font>


I think you took my meaning wrong. How is keeping tabs on your government "being nosey"? If I had a hand in electing a government that decided to spend billions of dollars on a foreign war, I'd want to know exactly what was going on.

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2003-12-23, 11:55 AM #39
Maybe nosey was the wrong word... but I can't think of anything else to describe what I'm thinking of right now [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2003-12-23, 11:59 AM #40
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">How is keeping tabs on your government "being nosey"? If I had a hand in electing a government that decided to spend billions of dollars on a foreign war, I'd want to know exactly what was going on.</font>


You make a good point. Our tax money is going into this war, and we should know what is really going on.

But if the media exposes certain secret military plans that would harm the well-being of the soldiers or the US country, I feel that would be wrong.



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