That lian li case sucks because its a lame ripp off of the apple case. Thats why i dont like it.

[QUOTE=stinkey diver]That lian li case sucks because its a lame ripp off of the apple case. Thats why i dont like it.[/QUOTE]
Oh, good reasoning. Because nobody should be able to have a case similar to the Apple case for a PC. Hell, nobody should make the same cases period. You know all those beige cases? They suck. I don't care how sturdy they are, how their plain style makes them almost perfect for those who don't like fancy cases, or how well their airflow is, they suck because they're copies.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Oh, good reasoning. Because nobody should be able to have a case similar to the Apple case for a PC. Hell, nobody should make the same cases period. You know all those beige cases? They suck. I don't care how sturdy they are, how their plain style makes them almost perfect for those who don't like fancy cases, or how well their airflow is, they suck because they're copies.[/QUOTE]
Woah easy tiger im just saying i dont like the case. Take a break, have a kit kat.

That Mac ****ing rocks. Anybody who disagrees with me has a different opinion. And that's just fine. But the Mac still rocks.

[QUOTE=stinkey diver]Woah easy tiger im just saying i dont like the case. Take a break, have a kit kat.[/QUOTE]
You're saying you don't like the cases for one stupid reason, and insulting Lian Li is far from what I'd call intelligent as well. Lian Li is the leading in the best designer cases for the PC other than custom-made ones of course. Insulting the most prestigious maker of ATX cases isn't intelligent.

As opposed to disagreeing with equal opinions?

I think that's the joke, Echoman.

It looks like a sweet machine. The price is pretty good for what it is, but none of us here need that kind of power. I have excess power with my iMac 20".

[QUOTE=stinkey diver]That lian li case sucks because its a lame ripp off of the apple case. Thats why i dont like it.[/QUOTE]
"Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery." Really. It's not a "lame ripp off." It's inspired by the G5 case because the G5 case kicks ***, and Lian Li knows it.

Forgive me Dj yoshi. I should never have spoked out against Lian Li like that.

When I'm running 40 plugins in a Pro Tools project, I could definitely use the extra power.

1.9ghz G5, BTW.

Seems to me like this computer is pretty much for designers only. Who else would need that much power in a Mac? Is everyone here a power-designer or what?

For serious music production that kind of power comes in reeaally handy. (not that I'm all that experienced..)

Pretty as that thing is, I can't think I'd ever have a use for one of them!

As for prices for Apple - they are a little more than an equivalent pc, but they're not unreasonably expensive - an iMac is only about £900 or so.

I kind of meant that under design. Same thing applies.

Ahh. Gotcha.

I agree. IMO Linux is associated with gritty, low level programming work like C/C++. Windows is my platform for slightly higher level C# (O RLY?) and Java. I don't use macs.

Then again, I do most of my programming using scrap paper and a pen. I try to limit the time on the computer to typing and debugging.

Argh! Pen coding gave me a headache! I can't spot semi colons and stuff.

That sounds like a horrible waste of time.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]That sounds like a horrible waste of time.[/QUOTE]

You'd be surprised how much time you can save by writing out code by hand first.

Most programmers that I know write many of their algorithms and much of their pseudo code on paper while out at the bar or while in front of the TV. I guess you could just as easily do it on a PDA or notebook, but I can relate, because I don't like sitting in front of a computer for 16 hours a day either.

A lot of stuff comes to me at random times, but I generally don't write it down. I can keep it in my head and recall my previous line of thinking well enough to know exactly what I was thinking when it came to me though.

For some reason I do like to write assembly down if I'm trying to translate C or something to assembly though. *shrug* Not exactly something I do often though, but did do a lot when I had a class that involved it. And I've definitely written my fair share of psuedocode algorithms on paper for classes as well, heh.

Except I type about 100 wpm. I write about 20. I somehow doubt I'll save any time.


Algorithms and psuedo-code are one thing, handwriting programs is just a sign of mental incapacity.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Except I type about 100 wpm. I write about 20. I somehow doubt I'll save any time.

Algorithms and psuedo-code are one thing, handwriting programs is just a sign of mental incapacity.[/QUOTE]

I seem to remember you begging me to do your C homework last year.

When you're writing out your pseudo-code, nothing is holding you from writing down code along with it. Once you've got the program/procedure/function down and that everything looks fine, it's amazing how much faster you code since now you have a better idea of where you are heading.

I didn't have C homework last year.

I had a final I couldn't figure out, I asked you to help. You ended up not helping and instead doing the entire program. I didn't complain.

Writing it out never helped me. Writing does nothing for me that typing doesn't do. Trust me, we had to write out our programs in my C/C++ classes anyways, despite your oh-so-universal claims to it helping it doesn't help everyone.

Also, lame attempt at insulting my ability to program based on a 2 year old program that was giving me massive amounts of trouble = a poor job at actual insulting. Thank you, come again.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]I'm also 99.9% sure that their cases were inhouse design. Design is one thing they pride themselves in, and I don't think it'd be something they'd outsource. It just doesn't seem like Apple.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps so. I just heard it on a forum.

oooh, i could do with a case like that, those thingys on the bottom mean it keeps the machine lifted off the floor when i have nowhere else to put it.

how much does a non-mac variant of those cases cost?

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yah i dont really think that is special at all in terms of casing and my bros laptop which he got ages ago is 3Ghz so i dont even known what there is too drool about.

i like this idea for casing. it has a coolant and therefore the computers can be overclocked without overheating. i saw a better case in a magazine before i might scan it in if any of you care. but i think its such an obvious thing to do, i mean they did it with cars why not computers.

i am happy about it.

There is a lot more to speed than frequency. Also, there are FOUR of them.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]I didn't have C homework last year.

I had a final I couldn't figure out, I asked you to help. You ended up not helping and instead doing the entire program. I didn't complain.[/QUOTE]

Only because you were completely unable to do it yourself.

Who the **** unbanned you, anyways?

Meh. I dont think I could ever get a mac desktop. I really, really like the mac notebooks, and will be buying a macbook pro within the next couple of days, but the Desktops dont really excite me.

Not completely unable.

The bigger question is, why do you try to goad me into personally attacking me with your not-so-subtle insults? Seriously, I made a good point that writing doesn't help me figure out any of my programs, you say it does and I suck at programming. I say I used to do it all the time and it still didn't help me, you ask who the **** unbanned me. You act like I'm the one who did something wrong here.

Grow up.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Except I type about 100 wpm. I write about 20. I somehow doubt I'll save any time.


Algorithms and psuedo-code are one thing, handwriting programs is just a sign of mental incapacity.[/QUOTE]


No, you see, you werent talking about you, as you say. You were saying everyone sucks if they dont do it your way.

The way which is wrong.

These suckers are amazing, the pure raw power we are getting out of them is amazing.
Now if you guys really want to be picky over pricing go match the same spec MacPro with the current pricing with Dell, the MacPro if I recall is about $1500 or about £900 cheeper depending on were you live, the MacPro is aimed at Pro user and not really aimed at the consumer market, hence why we have a home range, everything in White/Black, and the Pro range every thing in silver and the word 'Pro' in the products name.

Who ever said 'do they right click' we always have been able too, and for the last year we have had the mighty mouse from Apple, but any 3rd party mouse works.

Duel booting via Bootcamp is not an option at the moment as we are awaiting a new build of Boot camp beta to come out to handle the new stuff inside the MacPro, but when it happens and It works well, Im buying that machine and a new 23" cinema screen, there are some perks for working for them

No, I said it sounded like a horrible waste of time. Then I said it wouldn't save me any time. I never said anyone sucks. Quit putting words in my mouth.

And no way is "wrong" or "right", it just works differently for different people.

You're the only one with a self-righteous I am right tone here, ironically enough considering your accusations.

Straight from the apple machine itself. Hey, why SHOULDN'T you trust someone who works for the apple media machine and is probably paid to make these kinds of posts with an objective opinion?

Except for Macs having a use (industrail design) and AlienWare PC's don't (except for looking cool)?

Why are they using Xeons? Aren't those server processors?

They're using Core processors, the "xeon" bit is just weird advertising.

Xeons have always been high-end server and workstation processors designed especially for multiprocessing environments, and well, that's what the thing is, a workstation designed for multiple processors... There's nothing weird about the advertising. Xeons have always used the same architecture as the desktop variants, but they're different enough to warrant their own name. More or less, the Xeon of today is to the Core 2 as the Pentium 2 Xeon was to the Pentium 2.

Hey anakin, I have a question about Boot Camp and I was wondering if you MIGHT have an answer.

The current build of Boot Camp does not utilize the full power of the Graphics card and other hardware things. Is the new build of Boot Camp going to have better drivers that would allow some better functionality to play some 3d Games in Boot Camp?