I just found out, by way of Penny Arcade, that the revolution controllers are going to be 40 bucks each, with the "nun-chuck" attachments being 20 dollars.

Christ. I'd not seen an estimate on those, but that's f***ing ridiculous. Now don't go off on me saying "Well it IS expensive materials" etc etc, because the same arguments have been made for the PS3. That doesn't change the fact that you've gotta pay 40 bucks, just for the revmote, and 20 bucks for the nun-chuck attachment not to mention the "classic" controller shell. Pretty damn expensive.

Kinda sucks, if you want a fully pimped out Rev at release date, it'll cost you at least 430 bucks...ironically the price the cheapest PS3 has been priced at (in Japan only).

Just ranting (mindlessly).

:\ that does suck. But aren't 360 controllers $40? Granted, not an extra 20. But for the shell...why not just use a regular GCN controller for that?

And I have to confirm: PS3 wasn't lowered to $400 right? I had a couple friends telling me it was, I kept from telling them they were full of **** though and it was just in Japan because I may have missed it.

but, a video of a Nintendo presentation PR guy says that the controller and numchuck come standard with the system

that price tag of $40 and $20 are for more of them

Stop calling it Revolution you baby. It's the Wii you panzy.

And if you want a fully pimped PS3 it'll cost you double that. Argument over >.>

OH SNAP!

Victim is a fanboy.

The controllers costing that much piss me off. Why do they always charge stupid ammounts for extra controllers? Often times parties and multiplayer games are ruined because the owner of the system didn't buy 4 controllers for obvious reasons.

Stupid.

Nintendo overprices its (highly-desirable; almost to the point of necessity) accessories so it can claim the Wii costs less than it actually does.

WII

sure it will be a little expensive, but think about all the fun you will be having with it.

...

That was my point. Read my post :p

[QUOTE=Cool Matty]And if you want a fully pimped PS3 it'll cost you double that. Argument over >.>[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it will, but the PS3 isn't exactly targeted at the party audience Nintendo is. When I get a PS3 I'm going to be playing mainly single player games on it (GT, Warhawk, MGS4, etc) or games that are online. Nintendo's always been a party console company.

I'm not saying the PS3 isn't more expensive, nor was I trying to start any kind of argument, it just pisses me off. I don't want to have to pay 400 some odd dollars for a Wii just so I can enjoy it the way it was meant to be enjoyed (you can't argue Nintendo consoles aren't more fun with friends, because to be honest the GC, for a long time, was ONLY fun with friends).

Not only that, but no high def makes Yoshi a sad panda.

They give you a bargain on the console and make significant profit on peripherals. A myriad of businesses in various fields use a similar approach. For example, printers are relatively cheap but cartridges are expensive.

This much is true, that's the only way the PS3 will make money and it's how the 360 made money. But the difference is, Nintendo is going to make a profit on every Revolution sold. So there's no real reason for them to do this, except to exploit the customers.

Chances are all your friends will own a Wii as well and they can bring over there controlers. If not, stop being so poor and buy more controllers. (60 dollars is way too much. I know.)

It seems to me that all the "party" games so far demo'd don't really need the nunchuck. Plus SSBB is going to be using GC controllers or somesuch. So, in all reality, unless they start making "party" games that require the nunchuck, you'll be shelling out more or less the same as you would for a 360 or (probably) a PS3 controller.

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]Chances are all your friends will own a Wii as well and they can bring over there controlers. If not, stop being so poor and buy more controllers. (60 dollars is way too much. I know.)[/QUOTE]
None of my friends plan on buying a revolution. Trust me, I've urged them to, but they just don't want to. And poor? Sorry, 60 bucks is a LOT for just a controller, I don't care what system that controller is for. If MS made the 360 controller 60 bucks I'd still balk. Also, I wouldn't readily bring over a $60 dollar controller to my friend's house just to play some SSB. Especially not at larger gatherings where controllers have been known to go missing (I've been to so many xbox lans where controllers just vanished).


I've only seen a few games demo'ed--briefly. While your statement holds true, it's not always about what you need, and what you prefer. Technically, you only need some lame-*** excuse for a controller from mad catz to play games on any console. But, with a few exceptions, no one would want that controller. Things could be easier to do with the nun-chuck, who knows, especially with how much Nintendo's been pimping it.

Also, the 360 controllers are only 30 bucks iirc, 50 wireless. And no one knows about the PS3 controllers, but I guesstimate they'll stay within 40-ish range. Sony can't afford to make anything else about their system overly expensive (which is why games in America are staying at 60 dollars).

Well, at least the games won't be, you know. $75.

Why are you still calling it the Revolution?

on this system yes.. on the gamecube... no

it's kinda sad that their last system had fair prices on most accessories ($30 component cable was a bit much and to make it worse no store would carry it and no third party cable existed)

and yoshi... xbox wired are $40... though third party can be found for $25-30 and then there is the occasional sale price on the MS controllers

He's too stubborn to call it by it's real name, and because he disagrees with the name change he's rebelling against the man and calling it by the name he believes it should be called by.

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No. And neither will the PS3's.

Not standardly.

Both consoles have rumors that games can be $75 depending on developmental costs, though.

Sony released a statement saying PS3 games will be $60 in the US, which isn't too terribly bad considering.


My bad.


Basically. That and that other name is just downright dee dee dee.


Don't quit your day job, oh master of wit.

Stop arguing over what who calls the dang system... honestly, does it matter that much? It's really annoying to see you bickering over it in every thread that involves the "wiivolution" (I'm gonna call it this just to piss you off even more ;)) -- it's like little children going at each other. Grow up.

Oh, and iirc, Yoshi was never the one to start the argument either; it was always someone else complaining about the use of "revolution," so he has the upper hand there.

It's like trying to argue tennis shoes against sneakers, hoagies against subs, .... you can't win because they are BOTH correct!




Also, $40 for any standard controller is frigging ridiculous...

Wii [/SIZE][/COLOR]

...will rock you with the "revolution!"

Now now now, settle down people. The PS3 is going to be a fine console if you enjoy playing all of the games I'll be playing on my two cheaper consoles on a single, expensive system.

Except MGS, God of War, the Ratchet and Clank series, and other good PS* only titles, yeah.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Except MGS, God of War, the Ratchet and Clank series, and other good PS* only titles, yeah.[/QUOTE]What others?

I would be absolutely astonished if Sony still has enough cash left to pay for MGS to stay exclusive. Obviously they didn't have enough for RE5 or Assassin's Creed.

And you're complaining because?

Because you wanted to complain about something.

The system is otherwise very affordable. Instead of everything being a pain in the wallet.


I think the prices are fairly reasonable for new controllers. $40 seems about fair. Also, not all games will use the nunchuck.

And remember, some games may even include their own attachments.

It's not nearly as affordable as the PS3! $250 for the console and $70 for the controller? I AM OUTRAGED! Instead of buying a wii I am going to buy a $600 PS3, spend $30 on the 3 car/2 track version of GT5 and spend an additional $600 unlocking everything in my racing game. And you know what? I'll be getting way more for my money than you will, because it's SONY and SONY cares about the customer.

Yess.


But while you do that, I'll be at home with the door closed stroking my wii.

Or because I just found out and was kind of upset? I was originally planning on getting the system, a couple controllers, and a couple games. Now I'll have to limit it to the system, a game, and 3 controllers or just one extra controller and a few games.

I'm not saying the rest of it isn't affordable. I'm just saying I'm kinda pissed Nintendo did this.

And good christ don't even compare the PS3 to the Revolution. It's been stated, time and time again, by both Sony and Nintendo that they're targetting different markets for different reasons. I merely compared the price in my original post for scope. Instead of making assumptions about stupid **** and trying to infer I'm a fanboy or a dumbass, why don't you make better use of your time, Jon? Please? I don't do it to you, I don't hound your every post trying to prove your dim-wittedness in any way possible, whether or not it exists, so please just go autofellate to hounding someone else.

It gets old.

Oh no. They're both definately targeting the living room market. No matter what they say.

I'll give you an example of someone saying something and it not being true. Otherwise called a lie.

George W. Bush: "DEY TERRISTS IN IRAQ. AND WEAPONS OF MASS DUSTRUCTION!"
Congress: "OH EM GEE WE BELIEVE YOU."

Months later...

George W Bush: "Just kidding."


The difference being, nintendo will thwomp sony.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]And good christ don't even compare the PS3 to the Revolution. It's been stated, time and time again, by both Sony and Nintendo that they're targetting different markets for different reasons. I merely compared the price in my original post for scope. Instead of making assumptions about stupid **** and trying to infer I'm a fanboy or a dumbass, why don't you make better use of your time, Jon? Please? I don't do it to you, I don't hound your every post trying to prove your dim-wittedness in any way possible, whether or not it exists, so please just go autofellate to hounding someone else.[/QUOTE]I wasn't talking about you. I was more talking about the people who complained about the system being over $200, and I was mocking SONY for their brilliant decisions.

The last time I heard you were planning on getting a Wii too, which makes you as much of a fanboy as I am with my plans of getting all 3 systems at some point. I just think I'm spending my money a bit more wisely than you are, since I'm waiting to see if it actually puts Sony out of business before I buy one. And there's a pretty decent chance that it will.

Will nintendo outsell sony? Yes, most certainly.

But I don't give a crap about that. That's like saying "Oh man, I'm getting Vans shoes instead of those other ones because Vans TOTALLY sells more shoes than company #2".

I care about my quality of experience with the console, the games, the features, etc etc. I don't care if said console is selling well or not. If I cared about that, hell, I'd be an Xbox 360 fanboy all the way. I'm looking forward to a lot of the titles that are being released on the PS3 (continuations of previous titles, plus new games like Warhawk which seem to be exploiting everything they can out of the PS3). I think the PS3 has a solid future--if Sony can keep from going under before the thing hits a decent price (300-400 dollars). That's a big if. But everything to make a great console is there--easy development, multi-featured, online, a bit of innovation splashed with a lot of the same old stuff improved. I also hope that devvers don't shy away from it "in fear it will collapse" because, to be honest, that's the kind of mentality that will put Sony out of business.

And as much stupidity and lameness as Sony has brought to the table as of late, I realize they've been at the forefront of pretty much every revolution out there. If it weren't for them, we may still be using flash media to store our games. If it weren't for them, things such as portable tape players and cd players may have been much longer in the making. The created a lot of markets and pioneered in directions most people were too afraid to go. Despite their stupidity now, they've been on the cutting edge for years, and I hope they stick around for that very reason.

That said, I think that if Sony just keeps afloat with this next console (at least) then we'll definitely see something great from them on their next one. Mistake after mistake after mistake has cost them money, business, and public face. If they fail to learn from their mistakes these past couple years, then they deserve to go under. But I think they're smartening up, as a company. We'll see though.

However, all of that has nothing to do with the fact that this has nothing to do with the PS3. It has everything to do with how I'm kinda pissed at Nintendo for trying to make a quick buck on their controllers and how f***ing expensive they are. Quit being a fanboy Rob.


Well it's good to know that. And don't get me wrong, I won't be buying a PS3 on release day because I have more important things to spend money on--like saving it for college and a place and whatnot. I do, however, plan on getting it eventually, probably early next year. I also don't plan on getting a PS3 at launch because, historically, launch consoles from Sony blow ***.

And yeah, I do plan on getting a Revolution, but I'm toying with whether or not I want one on launch day or not. I'm not sure about the launch titles, and have to look into it more.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]So there's no real reason for them to do this, except to exploit the customers.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to capitalism. Chances are that every item you have ever purchased could have been marked down significantly and still leave the business enough money to get filthy rich.

Except the PS3, which is being sold at a $400 loss.

I know it's capitalism, but people claim they do everything they do for the customers.

I just know it's bull****.


Yeah.

Emon--how is that burning...anyone?

$40 for controllers? That's roughly £21 - an official PS2 controller over here is that much, so consider yourself lucky.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]If it weren't for them, we may still be using flash media to store our games.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, because they were definitely the first to move away from cart games.

*coughsegacough3d0cough*