Conversation edited for length, coherency, paragraphing, spelling, and anonymity. This isn't about drawing attention to "guy," it's about the entire "Well, if I don't like it, I must be right!" mentality.

If you read the whole thing, you deserve a medal.

This makes no sense. If society was perpetuated by the OC then it would be being affected by it. The OC is both a product and an influence on society. The OC isn't bad because I live like 40 minutes away from it. The OC *show* is not harmless because it DOES perpetuate society which in turn demands more crap like the OC show.

It goes both ways, it's not *just* a "product". The reason it's retarded is because, like you said, it's a something that perpetuates the things that produces it yay infinite loop

Well, it was in conversation. I tend to contridict myself when it isn't an essay. Later, you'll notice that I say that it shouldn't be about blame: We should simply be working towards a solution. Blaming the OC solves nothing. Identify the problem: Our mentality towards others, and go from there. Don't try to find someone or something to blame.

Why did I just read all that.

20 pages of you telling a guy he's wrong, and then calling him arrogant. Great.

Not that I don't agree with you or anything. But seriously if you're that condescending in all your conversations it must be very hard for you to make any friends.

This is retarded because any money he spends goes back into the economy. The point of economics is to make the best reasonable use of scarce resources, which is why he is using the production method with the lowest opportunity costs (whether or not this method is reasonable due to inhumane conditions etc. is another story). So, his motives ARE consistent in that on the business side he is cutting costs to supply households with products and on the household side he is buying in his self-interest to supply businesses with resources from his expenditures so that they can supply households with their products. I'm oversimplifying, but the point is that acting rationally economically (in your self-interest) automatically has the side effect of benefiting the economy and society (all other things equal, ideally, blah blah.. of course this doesn't always happen)

But where does one draw the line? Giving a ten-year-old girl in some sweatshop in China fifty cents per day to sew shoes together may be the cheapest means of producing shoes, but it's immoral.

ask the girl if she thinks it's immoral.

I saw a documentary done on sweatshop workers, and you know what they hate most? sweatshop protestors.

I said,

You can't just conveniently focus on one aspect. You have to look at the whole picture.

A) An assumption that our culture is bad.
B) An assumption that it needs to change.
C) An assumption that we want it to change.
D) An assumption that we want it to move in the same direction as you.
E) An assumption that we care about arguments you are having with people other than us.

whats laguna beach?

Did I force you to post?

More later, going to class.

This takes me back to high school, and for that I hate you.