That's exactly where the problem lies, Recusant. People (any people. not just Christians) do not lke having to follow someone else's rules if they do not agree with them. I do not like driving 65 mph. I like driving 95 mph, and do it as often as I can. The beauty of communities such as ours is that people we have the opportunity create or change rules to fit their views. The problem is when our views conflict with someone else's views, someone is bound to get upset, especially when neither side has compelling evidence for their cause, or one side doesn't believe or validate another's evidence. That's where the problem lies in the homosexuality issue; Christians feel that their religion is correct, and it's rules are correct, and they try to influence others to follow and enforce their rules. That is their perrogative. Homosexuals also have the same idea; they want to allow and enforce their lifestyle, even though they have no profound evidence for the support of their cause.

Note that I am neither arguing for, nor against any particular issue, I am just arguing about arguing, if that makes much sense, and the issue at hand just happens to be homosexuality.

The unclean animals bits were put into Jewish law because people could get sick if they didn't prepare the food properly. It was actually a practical thing.

I wasnt being sarcastic, it was a sincere G1



I was merely stating my opinion that ..I.. thought it was disgusting. I also think that slaughterhouses, skinning animals, and eating liver are disgusting, but yea some people do those and they aren't necessarily wrong

You are looking for an objective truth about gayness of which the Bible is the best thing I can find.

Exactly. I hate it how each side puts arguments back and forth, while ignoring that their whole basis of ethics are totally different. You can't argue homosexuality unless you have a common premise. Once you have a common premise, it takes care of itself.

Wait...
What the hell does eating liver have to do with ANYTHING?

It has to do with everything. You simply cannot comprehend how interwoven into the fabric of the universe eating liver is.

"How many pounds of liver can one man eat?"
42!
Hey it works!

But allowing everything that's not downright harmful is the best way to run a diverse society. Disallowing non-harmful things to people on the basis that some people are intolerant is less wise than simply mandating people exervise a little tolerance now and then. It won't kill them. You don't have to accept or respect homosexuality---but at the very least you ought to tolerate it, if only because by doing otherise you unravel the fabric of a diverse society.

Well... unfortunately there's no middle ground between banning something and accepting something. It's not like you can neither ban something nor not ban something (thus "forcing everyone to accept that thing"). Soo that's why people have to deal with being and :mad:. It just so happens that "banning" homosexuality is something you have to do actively, whereas "accepting" homosexuality (i.e. doing nothing about it) is something where you don't have to do anything. That's why it's just easier to compromise in that direction.

Btw I'm not taking a stance on either side either haha
DAing <_<

I am, that comic is ludicrous and bigoted.

[QUOTE=Leviticus 20-13]If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.[/QUOTE]
Translation: Have sex with another man, be put to death.

Now turn back a page...

[QUOTE=Leviticus 20-9]For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.[/QUOTE]
Translation: Curse your parents, be put to death.



The New Testament has some fantastic stories, the Old Testament is a pile of crap. If you can read the Old Testament and not laugh, you're a terrible human being.