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U.S. suspends habeas corpus for 'enemy combatants'
2006-10-23, 7:13 AM #81
HAHAHAHAH! Your country is wank!

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2006-10-23, 8:04 AM #82
Originally posted by Deadman:
I am taking fear in the sense of "omg these people have guns" since we were talking about the right to bear arms.

They should be afraid of losing power, yes. Afraid of someone else getting voted in, afraid of dissapointing their country. But not afraid of a bunch of locals declaring war and getting everyone killed.

But it may come down to that at times.

"Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state."
-Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-Thomas Jefferson

Etc etc.
D E A T H
2006-10-23, 9:07 AM #83
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]But it may come down to that at times.

"Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state."
-Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-Thomas Jefferson

Etc etc.[/QUOTE]
<3 Thomas Jefferson.
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2006-10-23, 11:12 AM #84
The idea is, the people should be in control, no matter what. If the government isn't doing what we need it to do, they should be afraid of losing power by votes. The point at which the government is in enough control that the people can no longer vote/control the government, that's when the people have to use more direct means. Hence the right to bear arms.

"...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government"

The point is, the people should never be powerless.
Warhead[97]
2006-10-23, 4:47 PM #85
How is any of this different than what was established in the supposedly temporary patriot act?

Cause from what I'm seeing, not much of it is.
>>untie shoes
2006-10-23, 5:13 PM #86
Originally posted by Brian:
I now firmly believe that we should not have congress, senate, and presidency as the same party. There is absolutely no freaking way this is good for America.

Also, I was looking through votes by congress/senate for REAL ID and PATRIOT ACT and both of them were unanimous or practically unanimous. Anyone who says the democrats will be more careful with your rights is wrong, they vote away the rights just like the republicans do.

Hell, even the WA representatives/senators voted for PATRIOT ACT and REAL ID act, it's total crap. There is no elected official looking after our rights. We are not free, because we don't have the freedom to replace a political party. The dem/repub thing is so ingrained in our politics that it's impossible to remove them. Hell, a dude got arrested in Seattle for trying to take part in a local debate. He "didn't meet the requirements" - of course, the news won't tell you what the requirements are.

An independent or other "small" party candidate cannot get elected because they don't have a hundred years of campaign donations saved up in order to take out tv ads, newspaper ads, radio ads, post signs, etc. The current two parties have the system so rigged and they have no incentive to remove the rigging.


Exactly.

This is the second-worst thing about America on my prioritized list.
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2006-10-24, 3:04 AM #87
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]
"Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans,
-Thomas Jefferson
[/QUOTE]

Interesting. Incorrect, but interesting..
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2006-10-24, 8:26 AM #88
Originally posted by Deadman:
Interesting. Incorrect, but interesting..

No, it's not.
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