I was just browsing through deviantArt and I realized anime sucks! It's overused, unoriginal and annoyingly cutesy. People need to develop their own style of drawing!

------------------
"If there's one thing I've learned it's this - you just can't shake hands with a fist" - David Allen Coe

Agreed. Now let's blow this joint.

------------------
"Look at me! I'm Tracer! BLAHBLAHBLAH!"

-MBeggar

That's your opinion. And as your opinion sucks in my opinion, I don't give a damn what you think.

------------------
<landfish> FastGamerr > Satan

I don't think it requires much talent to be good at Anime. Some people are REALLY good at it, and I respect them, but most artist's work are unoriginal and ugly.

------------------
"Windows [n.]
A thirty-two bit extension and GUI shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit microprocessor and sold by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition."

BV is exactly right. But, each to his/her own opinion.

------------------
<landfish> FastGamerr > Satan

Anime doesn't suck. Every little kiddy with a pencil drawing ^__^ on a triangular face sucks. I'm not that good at drawing it, I'll admit, and this is probably my greatest acccomplishment in drawing...or at least one of them. You see, you mistake those that wish they could draw well, and still post their every scribble on the internet with those that just draw, well or not, and don't post every piece of crap they draw on the internet.

That and Cowboy Bebop is own.

------------------
There is no signature

Anime is any cartoon made in Japan. There are various styles and not all of it looks the same. Some anime does suck, just like some of anything does. A picture drawn in a popular style of anime isn't anime, unless it is animated and made in Japan (whatever that may mean).

What makes you think I only see bad anime. I've seen it all, and it still sucks!



------------------
"If there's one thing I've learned it's this - you just can't shake hands with a fist" - David Allen Coe

You can't call Anime overly cutesy, since that is just a blanket term stemmed from ignorance.

Cowboy Bebop, for example, definately did not have cutesy in it.

As for you hating anime-STYLE art, that's your own opinion. But true anime, as in the animated stuff from Japan, is generally good. Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, .hack, and more will always hold a special place in my heart.

And as for overused and unoriginal: Just about any type of art is overused and unoriginal nowadays, considering art has been around for thousands of years. Anime is a relatively new style of art, as compared to say, Van Gogh or something, so if it is overused and unoriginal, you must hate every single type of art then!

------------------
"The future is not determined by a throw of the dice, but is determined by the conscious decisions of you and me."
I am addicted to ellipses!!! AHHH!!! ...
Make Sorrowind Worthwhile... join it! http://sorrowind.net

Hamtaro rocksss!

Just so you know, that's a physical impossibility. There is so much anime out there that you having watched even 1/64th of it is HIGHLY unlikely.

------------------
"The future is not determined by a throw of the dice, but is determined by the conscious decisions of you and me."
I am addicted to ellipses!!! AHHH!!! ...
Make Sorrowind Worthwhile... join it! http://sorrowind.net

<3 CM

And Outlaw Star...mmm...casters...

------------------
There is no signature

<3 Cowboy Bebop

------------------
<landfish> FastGamerr > Satan

I like anime simply because of the stories. They can do so much more than live action if it's done right, and they don't have censors telling them they can't have blood in a shootout scene or whatever.

Bebop's character development was perfect, and the story made sense at the end. They left out a lot of the origin stories except for bits and pieces, and had it make sense while retaining that sense of mystery.

------------------
Steal my dreams and sell them back to me.....

<3 Escaflowne
<3 Cowboy Bebop
<3 Trigun

Everyone says I am a big bandwagon-anime-fan, because I like all the animes everyone else likes...Uhh if the anime is good, why hate it? Just because everyone else likes it?! I'm no bandwagon-er, Escaflowne, Bebop, and Trigun rock.

------------------
I made a thread, that turned into the debate, so I made a second thread, that turned into a debate, then I made a third thread, that caught on fire, burned down, got flamed, crapped on, bashed, then turned into a debate...but the fourth one, the fourth one stayed on topic!

I was playing Superman 64 and I decided video games suck!

------------------
"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity."

-Albert Einstein

[This message has been edited by SG1_129 (edited July 06, 2004).]

^^^ <3

------------------
"If I had a dollar for every time I had sixty cents, I would be Canada."
"Should slice indices start at 0 or 1? My compromise of 0.5 was rejected without, I thought, proper consideration."
"I like the concept of people, but people ruin it."
"It has come to my attention that some of you have thumb-drives. They are cool."
--@%

I used to hate anime, but then I watched some and realized that it's not all bad. <3 Trigun, <3 Bebop, <3 Eva

------------------
What once was...

Most animes are too cliche, so I've stopped watching most of them. Cowboy Bebop is good, but things like Inuyasha make me sick. How many more things does a guy need to kill with a giant sword for the series to end?

------------------
"Dalton, that pie just moved of it's own accord."

"You must be mistaken, Tess. A pie can't move."

Ya inuyasha's pretty much the same thing every show,

But the animes like Noir or Hellsing are pretty good

Escaflowne, has cliche aspects, but the way they present them makes them totally un-cliche, and the story is just amazingly awesome.

------------------
I made a thread, that turned into the debate, so I made a second thread, that turned into a debate, then I made a third thread, that caught on fire, burned down, got flamed, crapped on, bashed, then turned into a debate...but the fourth one, the fourth one stayed on topic!

I think Pokemon should be considered an act of war from Japan.

Sailor Moon is funny, because I keep thinking they're all lesbians.

But anyway, it does irritate me how many westerners are suddenly following the 'Japanese' trend, how it's all of a sudden cool to be into Japanese stuff.

Japan is a perfectly interesting country, and I speak a little Japanese, but when you bump into white people on the train and they say 'sumimasen'..well, that's too much. You're not Japanese, damnit! Stop pretending to be Japanese! Stuff that's cool/cute when Japanese people do it is not cool/cute when white people do it >:

Also, it amuses me how Engrish is now being done on purpose. Well, it's sort of sad, too. Before, you could go into some Asian clothes shop selling cheap American replicas where they had misspelled or totally butchered some English phrase on a shirt and it'd be amusing to buy it. Now, the Japanese have worked out that the foreign devils actually enjoy the grammatical errors and do them on purpose to sell the product.

I'd have another season of Duck Tales over this anime stuff any day.

I like Inuyasha and Trigun but I don't understand the people who are always acting as if just because something is anime then it's godly.

Yeah the style is interesting to me in those two series alone, but when people want everything done in anime..it really takes away the charm. It's pretty silly.

------------------
"We came, we saw, we conquered, we...woke up!"

Duck Tales! AwoooooOO! Or something along those lines...

------------------
"Dalton, that pie just moved of it's own accord."

"You must be mistaken, Tess. A pie can't move."

<3 .Hack

------------------
Titan A.E.

For some reason I liked Mobile Suit Gundam. The animation in the original was laughable, but the updated animation of the mechs looked really cool in the other UC series.

I liked Gundam Wing when it came out, I kinda see it's numerous flaws in retrospect. never bothered to watch G Gundam, the concept behind it just bothered me.

Rourouni Kenshin has nice action, but it has that DBZish (which I actually liked back when it was first aired on CN) storyline of one battle after another. The movies "Trust & Betrayal" and "Reflection" were much better IMO, though.

The one's I don't really like -Inuyasha, RK, etc.- ussually have some character that I do to get me to watch it once in a while.

------------------
Steal my dreams and sell them back to me.....

oooh. Duck Tales was fantastic!

I also liked Wacky Races.

As for new cartoons, there's this thing that my sister watches with this kid who has a pair of goldfish that can perform wishes, who are his godparents or something.. But anyway, that is quite good actually.

I like cartoons to be stupid and funny.

I never really got into Anime...I dunno, every time I see some of it it's either ridiculous (...Fist of the North Star) or horribly dubbed or just hideous (Reign).

What REALLY bothers me thought is die-hard anime fans who act as if anime is the pinnacle of art and anyone who disagrees is stupid and dumb. I know a guy who talks ENDLESSLY about anime and almost nothing else. It's obnoxious.

------------------
Dark, Darker, Darko

RIP Madaventor: God bless you.

Just becaue you don't like something doesn't mean it sucks. I'm not an anime fan or a fan of the art in anime, but I don't think it sucks. It's just not for me.

------------------
I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

While certain series listed here are pretty good, I'm a fan of One Piece, Excel Saga, Dragon Half...

I could do a lot of ranting, but the bottom line is I still have mixed feelings about anime in general as an animator, writer, etc.

------------------
Check out the following stories over at the Interactive Story Board:
The Never-ending Story Thread or visit the new webcomic version!
The Vision Cycle series
Featured Story: Scions of Light

dude, you were playing one of the top 10 worst games of all time, do not judge video games because you played an uber-crap game.

------------------
Those silly bullets have minds of their own!
Jon`C:Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly.
Spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'
Snail racing: (500 posts per line)--@%

that was all caused by the evil company known as DIC. please don't make assumpsions like that or you will get slapped till your face comes off one day.

------------------
Those silly bullets have minds of their own!
Jon`C:Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly.
Spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'
Snail racing: (500 posts per line)--@%

Like all other things, some anime are good and others are not. Cowboy Bebop is my absolute favorite.

I watched Sailor Moon once and Pokemon once, and decided that, indeed, anime sucks. Later, I grudgingly watched some other anime, and it wasn't bad. So, I know now that, like every other style of animation or whatever, anime has both good and bad aspects. And I just found a spider that made a web on one of my computer speakers.

------------------
"May your gravity well be shallow, and your deBroglie wavelength short."

You have no sense of humor, do you? He was JOKING. JOOOKING.

And DIC didn't do anything. Sailor Moon is deplorable, it suffers from DBZ Syndrome. OMG, ITS A HARDER ANTAGONIST! WE MUST FIND SOME NEW POWER THAT WILL DEFEAT IT!

No thanks, I'll stick to the good stuff, like Witch Hunter Robin and .hack

------------------
"The future is not determined by a throw of the dice, but is determined by the conscious decisions of you and me."
I am addicted to ellipses!!! AHHH!!! ...
Make Sorrowind Worthwhile... join it! http://sorrowind.net

Rule # 1 - Never watch anime that's on TV.

------------------
I made a thread, that turned into the debate, so I made a second thread, that turned into a debate, then I made a third thread, that caught on fire, burned down, got flamed, crapped on, bashed, then turned into a debate...but the fourth one, the fourth one stayed on topic!

Outlaw Star, Cowboy Bebop, Evangelion, Escaflowne, Blue Sub #6, Gundam Wing, Robotech, Macross, all animes that have been on TV and are great. Also Akira, GitS, LAIN...need I go on?

I think what you're thinking of is "never watch cliche animes that are on TV.

But yah, I love Macross Plus. That's probably in my top 3. OLS is my absolute favorite though. Jim Hawking + Suzuka = <3

Excel Saga's pretty good, really randomly funny. I love Pedro XD. Gebohq's got good tastes

------------------
There is no signature

All I gotta say is poor Menchi...

No, i mean NEVER watch anime on TV

Outlaw Star - Edited
Cowboy Bebop - Edited
Evangelion - Edited
Escaflowne - Edited
Blue Sub #6 - Edited, and that is a horrible movie. It depended on crappy CGI and bad story and just everything was horrible. I hate this OMG NEW AGE anime with all the CGI crap..it just ruins the show/movie.
Gundam Wing - Edited
Robotech - Edited
Macross - Edited
Akira - It's a classic, but edited most of the time...It's not even that great, it's just it was the first anime film to beak many barriers.

Buy the DVD's or rent them. Never watch anime on TV. Plus 90% of the anime on TV is the dubbed version, many people prefer subbed.

------------------
I made a thread, that turned into the debate, so I made a second thread, that turned into a debate, then I made a third thread, that caught on fire, burned down, got flamed, crapped on, bashed, then turned into a debate...but the fourth one, the fourth one stayed on topic!

[This message has been edited by SAJN_Master (edited July 06, 2004).]