...has been happening far too much. It's no longer even limited to normal offenders and it needs to stop. The next person who tells TE anything beyond "please, if you have nothing to add to my thread, don't post at all" will be banned for 3 days. The next offense will get you banned for a week, then a month, etc.

I realize why it's happening. I'm trying to decide how to deal with him. But the bashing needs to stop.

I've decided to open this for anyone who has something to say about this, but can express it in a civilized way.

If you want the bashing to stop, then do something about it. It's obvious that pretty much everyone here doesn't enjoy his company, and I'm sure people other than myself have tried to talk to him about his behaviour (And I hope a mod has too). It's obvious that him being civilized about it is out of the question, judging by his reactions to me trying to talk to him about it.

There's a difference between pointing out how foolish and uninformed TE is, and posting immediatly after he posts in order to show how cool you are. I used to be a major "WTF, why did you make a thread about this?" people, but now I just ignore him. He doesn't mean any harm, and he's not hurting anyone. SFGold, and other trolls were a lot more distructive, and thus I have a hard time ignoring.

How about the rule isn't just for Tiberium, but for everyone. There are a few members that only post to bash other people. How about we put a stop to their posting all together?

uh oh, here we go. Poor Victor.

At this point, after being told several times a post, and even being banned for it in the past, there are not that many solutions to dealing with Tiberium. Its become clear that he does not have any intention to try bettering himself or his posts.

I'll be frank, at this point, I've begun doubting his actual idiocy. He's obviously consious of his posts and is getting a kick out of doing it. A concrete example is the several times that he will post about his crappy computer, then someone calls him on it, and will then post it once more. A total idiot would most likely not do that and be obsolete to the insults thrown at him. Even possibly not comprehend these insults or their reason. Heck, Echoman's posted a screenshot of a private(read spam) message the kid sent to him about having a crappy computer.

I don't think there are many options at our disposal.

Enduring him (and enduring the flames that he sparks) or be done with him permanently. Being temporarily banned in the past has done nothing toward his behavior.

TE has been very annoying on many instances, yes.

However, many people have been worse on similar instances. Some used to be like that, some still are - yet hiding behind better grammar or something like that.

But it's very easy for you people to break this new regulation, so all I can say is: Yay for bans!

No no, not 'Poor Victor'. Poor everyone. There are more members than just me that get told off every day and it's by the same members every time. The admins keep having 'talks' with them, but that does nothing.

SAJN does have a point though, "No personal attacks, insults, or flames" is the biggest f***ing joke you can find from here.

[QUOTE=Glyde Bane]If you want the bashing to stop, then do something about it. It's obvious that pretty much everyone here doesn't enjoy his company, and I'm sure people other than myself have tried to talk to him about his behaviour (And I hope a mod has too). It's obvious that him being civilized about it is out of the question, judging by his reactions to me trying to talk to him about it.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately this is not Survivor. We aren't voting people out of the forums. I am trying to discuss things with him myself.

I never said anything about voting someone out... I was talking about him not willing to be part of the solution.

I just wish he'd stay out of semi-serious discussions.

You already removed his thread posting privelages, that seems like enough. Maybe add an option to thread posting to make a thread invisible to TE so he can't see it and fill it with.. you know.

True, but like I said, you don't have that many options before you.

Sajn has a point though. Still, I've personally been trying to ignore it myself and not react to it for the most part, and its paid off so far. I've tried settling things with the two persons I had the biggest problems on the forums. One never replied but at least seems to have quieted down and the other seems to have cooled down about me a lot and we can both be civilized to each other.

Still, I've yet to see "small talk" settle the bigger issues on these forums. I know its settled several smaller ones (including myself, right Roach and MB? :P), but its proven ineffective elsewhere.

I would apologize if there has been an increase in insults on the Discussion Forum in the last week and a half, but I have been visiting family, and frankly, I'm not apologizing because you guys are breaking the rules.

Theres only one or two people I actively ACTUALLY bash. (One of which is banned, the other we are discussing)

I call Jepman FATTY all the time, but you don't see him complaining. He just makes fun of my lack of a chin, or my hair.


Are there other people I don't like? Yeah. Do I post in their threads? I try to avoid it unless it's something I really find the need to say something about.

Tiberium is less annoying that SF_Gold ever was. I don't think he really means to annoy people he just has a natural gift

I think the main problem is the sheer number of [edit: questionable adjective] posts or topics created. If he posted the same kinds of posts but a quarter as much people would barely even notice him.

Once more: Civil. This is not an open thread so you can tell me how dumb, stupid, etc, TE is.

What about that Macro guy? He was fairly annoying too >_>

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]No no, not 'Poor Victor'. Poor everyone. There are more members than just me that get told off every day and it's by the same members every time. The admins keep having 'talks' with them, but that does nothing.[/QUOTE]

Maybe i'm just a very neutral poster (and granted i don't post that much) but I can't really ever remember being flamed (don't start :p)

I agree though, I see it all the time, people are getting flamed for rather innocuous stuff, but even simply replying back saying something like "stop flaming me," or a little retort never helps the situation, just further amplifies it. As I said, i notice people being flamed all the time but no particular names ring out other than imsoshort, so i can't really pick out specific examples. (more can't be bothered)

I find imsoshort in general annoying, but not that much more annoying than some other members of the community, thats life, there are always people you find annoying Generally, i don't really care too much, i just skip through the posts i find silly

Btw, what happened to the ignore feature? (never used it but anyone who really does have a massive problem with someone, maybe use that?) Everyone seems to have forgotten about it...

[edit: forgot to mention, i do agree with Roach, admins should enforce the rules yes but shouldn't have to apologise for "our" behaviour]

You know, there are several easy solutions to this "problem".

1) Don't read his posts. If you really hate him, don't read his posts. Simple as that.

2) If you really really hate him, put him on your ignore list. Then #1 is done for you.

3) Read his posts. If he's saying something you don't agree with, don't respond to his posts. If you respond to his useful posts, and not to not useful posts, problem solved.

Basically, this isn't something moderators or admins should have to handle. As a community, just stop provoking him/responding to him.


Not that hard.. Most of the community already does this.

I think everyone knows where I stand on the ignore "feature."

This doesn't deserve a sticky.

Yeah. I don't understand why people can't just use ignore.

Er, yeah to what happydud said.

I'm with dud. He's such a stud.

I disagree. Moderators are there for a reason. The ignore feature hardly helps. Say the person does suddenly say something important that moves the conversation a certain way? Guess what, you just missed it and may well misunderstand the thread itself and of course post something ridiculously out of context.

Posting useless posts after useless posts is just as bad, at least in my eyes, as flaming, trolls or bashing.

Basically what you are saying in your lovely list is that we should just ignore (or endure) every annoyance on the forums. Including these trolls mentioned earlier, or bashers, or excessive cussing.

Why not just put him on ignore? If everyone ignored trolls, they would not be a problem.

Anovis, I will de-sticky this thread and kill it when it no longer has a point.

Ok so yes some of you find me incredibly annoying. I happen to think that the "ignore" feature was put here for a reason. Also i really don't understand why it seems some of you systematicly target my posts simply in order to rididule them.
[Roach can expect a reply some time soon]

Reread the above, I think it explains why ignore is not a good solution. I tried ignoring some people for a while and gave up pretty darn fast because it pretty much breaks the flow of these forums or conversations. My best example would be Jon'C. Despite his hatred for me, he contributes to several discussions, often making pivotal points in the conversation. Missing them led me to misread or misunderstand the thread.

As far as I know, forums are there to have fluid discussions. The ignore button pretty much works against that when the ignored people decide to lighten up and participate in a conversation.

Ok, I'll say that's a good enough argument against the ignore.

[QUOTE=Glyde Bane]What about that Macro guy? He was fairly annoying too >_>[/QUOTE]

I got spam PMs from him too. Why does it have to be me to get stuff like this.
(the below PM is real...and I have no clue what it means)

I guess he likes you.

I'm not really a part of this argument, but here's my 0.02 based on what I've encountered on other forums: the ignore feature is worthless unless absoloutely everyone uses it. Else the person in question is still quoted, still replied to and their posts still derail and ruin otherwise good threads. This isn't entirely their fault, a lot of the problem now does come from other guys jumping to point out his stupidity, so I think you're taking a good step with this thread. The only real solution is for people to just ignore him, imo.

And that is when you click the button thats says "View Post". I'm sorry, I still don't buy that as an argument against the ignore function. If you see a serious conversation going and expect someone to be participating seriously, click view post. If someone is too lazy to use it properly, that's their problem.

Most admins have said repeatedly that your argument is not an excuse.

Ok, makes sense about the ignore function being more useless than i thought. I think happydud's third point is still applicable though.

Everyone follows his words to the letter. The only reason why TE is a "problem" is because you all made it a problem. When he makes a pointless thread, I will "gas" it. I've taken away that privilege from him anyway for now. This isn't SA where I ban for low content posts. If it were, a sizable portion of you would be on ban/probation all ready, including TE. Everyone comes to me and says "JG can you pleeeasseee ban TE!!?11" Almost every time I say "what rule has he broken?" And then the request drops. It's like abusing the report post button. Abuse that and I'll ban YOU. Now how do you like them apples. The forums have an ignore feature. If you don't like someone, put them on your list.

That is all.

I disagree. Ignore doesn't make posts disappear forever - you can still click 'view post' if you come across a discussion so fascinating you can't stand missing.



That's not at all what he's saying. His point was that moderators should enforce the rules, not whatever you happen to find annoying.

[QUOTE=IRG SithLord]And that is when you click the button thats says "View Post". I'm sorry, I still don't buy that as an argument against the ignore function. If someone is too lazy to use it properly, that's their problem.[/QUOTE]


You're all kinds of sarcastic smart aren't you? That again completely destroys the purpose of the ignore button. Its not always "slap in the face" obvious that the ignored post is intelligently contributing or not. The following post will often easily look like a continuation or a response of/to the post above the ignored one. Thats exactly what I'm saying when I talk about misunderstanding a thread and missing a pivotal point.

Or am I supposed to view all the posts made by the ignored poster just in case I miss something? Oh wait.

Minimal intelligence is required to identify the appropriate posts, Jep. Surely you have that much.

And see JG's post. You have no argument. The simple answer here is that most people on these forums lack courtesy to ignore the posts without the ignore feature. Judging from your posts, I'd say that includes you.

*Shrug* I've had Rob on ignore for a while. Sometimes I read his posts when it's a big discussion. I don't understand why it's a problem.