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What happens whe you fall down a bottomless pit???
2007-02-21, 9:54 AM #1
I've been having this question for so long,I think from the first time I saw one of the starwars movies.I saw V:ESB,at the final (shocking) battle when Luke hurled himself down that shaft.Alright,he had luck with the venting tube,but what if the tube was shut down and he fell further (the same for D. Maul,the unlucky stormtrooper from V:ANH etc.).

Tell me and the others what you think or let your fantasy go!
Your little gentleman!
2007-02-21, 10:02 AM #2
Every pit has a bottem.

The end.
SnailIracing:n(500tpostshpereline)pants
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2007-02-21, 10:02 AM #3
Well I think that if theres a bottomless pit it must travel through the centre of a planet, therefore it's much like a large hole drilled through our mud-ball. If you fell in said pit gravity would pull you towards the centre until you meet the centre of the planet, where gravity would probably tear you apart, or you would be frozen place, but still have the feeling of falling.
nope.
2007-02-21, 10:03 AM #4
Let my fantasy go?

Luke screamed as he fell. He could feel the void below him and he was feeling something he had never felt before. When the tube had stayed shut one though went through his mind, "oh no". But now there was something new. Something primal about the pit, something inviting, revealing, and it was turning him on...
Ban Jin!
Nobody really needs work when you have awesome. - xhuxus
2007-02-21, 10:13 AM #5
Originally posted by Echoman:
Every pit has a bottem.

The end.


There were plenty of pits in level 9 of Dark Froces (Nar Shaddaa) that led into open space. Basically, you fall forever.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2007-02-21, 10:16 AM #6
Originally posted by Baconfish:
Well I think that if theres a bottomless pit it must travel through the centre of a planet, therefore it's much like a large hole drilled through our mud-ball. If you fell in said pit gravity would pull you towards the centre until you meet the centre of the planet, where gravity would probably tear you apart, or you would be frozen place, but still have the feeling of falling.


I'm going to suggest damped vibration, where you would continue out the other end until gravity pulled you back and so on until you eventually came to a halt.
Steal my dreams and sell them back to me.....
2007-02-21, 10:22 AM #7
Wait, Boco, why would gravity tear you apart? Gravity is an attractive force. You would be crushed into a tiny ball. (After you lost all your energy while oscillating)
Ban Jin!
Nobody really needs work when you have awesome. - xhuxus
2007-02-21, 11:05 AM #8
Why would you be crushed into a tiny ball? :psyduck:

Unless your bottomless pit happens to lead into a black hole.
Stuff
2007-02-21, 11:08 AM #9
Eh, if it's bottomless then you're just falling down forever.

Of course, human bodies don't live forever so you'll die in the way to starvation or whatever. But since bottomless pits hardly exist, I guess you could also be immortal while falling down such a pit.

Freaking imaginary situations.
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2007-02-21, 11:12 AM #10
Originally posted by SMOCK!:
Let my fantasy go?

Luke screamed as he fell. He could feel the void below him and he was feeling something he had never felt before. When the tube had stayed shut one though went through his mind, "oh no". But now there was something new. Something primal about the pit, something inviting, revealing, and it was turning him on...

Dude. What the Hell?
2007-02-21, 11:16 AM #11
I remember reading somewhere, that you die when you're in freefall too long, i forgot what the distance was.
:master::master::master:
2007-02-21, 11:27 AM #12
A bottomless pit is simply a vertical tunnel.

Thus, you would come out the other side.

Problem solved.
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2007-02-21, 11:35 AM #13
Earth is perpetually falling toward the sun, and no-one here seems to be adversely affected.

2007-02-21, 11:40 AM #14
Originally posted by The Mega-ZZTer:
Earth is perpetually falling toward the sun.


[sub]Thanks to your mom.[/sub]
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2007-02-21, 11:42 AM #15
You puke and choke to death on your own vomit, so you never see the bottom.
2007-02-21, 11:53 AM #16
Originally posted by Echoman:
[sub]Thanks to your mom.[/sub]


Fat bottomed girls make the rockin' world go round (the sun).
2007-02-21, 11:55 AM #17
Originally posted by stat:
I remember reading somewhere, that you die when you're in freefall too long, i forgot what the distance was.


It would have to be at least 437 days; that's the longest that anyone has ever been in space for and it's physically identical to freefall.

:psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:

Honestly I don't know where people in this thread are getting their information. Gravity tearing you apart? Getting "stuck" in the middle sf the Earth instead of falling all the way through?

Here's another psyduck for effect. :psyduck:

Stop taking physics lessons from Friend14, guys.
Stuff
2007-02-21, 11:59 AM #18
You'd get the comfiest nights sleep of your life.

But yeah, assuming the tube through a planet, you'd fall towards the centre, the whole time, the net gravitational force would drop while I'm guessing that there'd be some sort of damping due to air friction which would increase (probably negligibly) due to denser air towards the centre. You'd continue through until gravity decelerated you enough to pull you back towards the centre. Eventually you'd come to rest presumably floating in the middle being pulled on all sides by the gravitational force of the planet surrounding you. Then you'd wait till some other object comes falling down the hole and hits you at its terminal velocity and kills you.
I really thought about that too much, didn't I?
2007-02-21, 12:02 PM #19
Originally posted by SMOCK!:
Wait, Boco, why would gravity tear you apart? Gravity is an attractive force. You would be crushed into a tiny ball. (After you lost all your energy while oscillating)


You never said it had to make sense!
nope.
2007-02-21, 12:07 PM #20
This question is so easy...you would hit the side of the pit and get killed.
2007-02-21, 12:15 PM #21
This is an interesting question.

I think the concept of falling necessitates that some body's gravity is drawing an object (you) towards its gravitational center. (This definition is the basis of my following claims).

Since you are being attracted to a specific point, by the very definition it wouldn't be possible to fall forever; you will eventually reach that point in space (assuming an outside force doesn't interfere). Even the hypothetical tunnel going through the center of a planet wouldn't allow you to fall forever, as you would eventually come to rest after oscillating a bit (as someone already described). That point in the tunnel where you come to rest is essentially the bottom of the bottomless pit.

If you are moving at a fast enough speed to pass through the planetary tunnel and escape its gravitational pull on the other side, then you were never falling - just moving through space. In that scenario, the pit isn't a pit at all, and whether it has a bottom becomes irrelevant. It's all context. If you escape the gravitational pull of the body attracting you, terms like "fall" and "bottom" (as well as up and down) become meaningless.

Of course, being a soft little organism, you'd probably die before reaching the center of gravity regardless.

Edit: Oh, just noticed your 0x1 post count. Welcome to Massassi.
2007-02-21, 1:02 PM #22
I think masq has the truth in his hands.Thanks for the information and the welcome :).
Your little gentleman!
2007-02-21, 1:07 PM #23
But that isn't going to stop YOU guys from placing some ideas here

Go on,I wanna hear them all[http://www.starwars.com/episode-i/fun/snapshot/1999/09/img/naboo_bg.jpg]
Your little gentleman!
2007-02-21, 1:11 PM #24
what if you had a pit that led into a different dimension and the pit was continuously expanding at the same rate you were falling. you would have a starting point where you fell from so you would still be "falling" but you would never reach the "bottom"
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2007-02-21, 1:15 PM #25
That doesn't sound right to me.Not at all!
But hey,thanks anyways:downs: :downs: :downs:
Your little gentleman!
2007-02-21, 1:18 PM #26
Alran, that sounds suspiciously like a bit in House of Leaves.. :p

But I really have to go with What's Her Face here.. "When you fall in a bottomless pit, you die of starvation."

http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgs4.html
Also, I can kill you with my brain.
2007-02-21, 1:18 PM #27
Quote:
Revelation 9:1-3
1Then the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from heaven which had fallen to the earth; and the key of the bottomless pit was given to him.
2He opened the bottomless pit, and smoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by the smoke of the pit.
3Then out of the smoke came locusts upon the earth, and power was given them, as the scorpions of the earth have power.




What if there were a teleporter at a certain point in the pit and you fell, hit the teleporter, and then dropped from the top again? Then you'd fall forever.
2007-02-21, 1:21 PM #28
Originally posted by Masq:

Since you are being attracted to a specific point, by the very definition it wouldn't be possible to fall forever; you will eventually reach that point in space (assuming an outside force doesn't interfere).


but what if the pointwas continuously moving away from you as it pulled you in tow ? you would never reach your "destination" but you would be pulled "down" by a body using gravity. :psyduck:
Welcome to the douchebag club. We'd give you some cookies, but some douche ate all of them. -Rob
2007-02-21, 1:22 PM #29
Seen that with a stormtrooper,maul or even palpatine?------>[http://scifi3d.theforce.net/downloads/Star_Wars/SWDeath_Star/large_ds2shaft.jpg]

Nee,I don't think so,much like Darth_alran's theory
But hey,much thanks really :) :) :p
Your little gentleman!
2007-02-21, 1:36 PM #30
You know guys,if you have watched episode VI:ROTJ,then you'l probably have noticed palpatine died in a blue haze of energy.That was the reactor's power,not one of the consequences of a bottomless pit (I'm just telling because on other forums,they mostly give such a answer).
Your little gentleman!
2007-02-21, 1:43 PM #31
Originally posted by Darth_Alran:
but what if the pointwas continuously moving away from you as it pulled you in tow ? you would never reach your "destination" but you would be pulled "down" by a body using gravity. :psyduck:

I like that argument. :) I don't know enough about physics to determine whether it'd work though, or if the speed of the fleeing body and its faller would gradually change (resulting in either the final collision or the faller's escape depending which body's speed changes and how).
2007-02-21, 2:21 PM #32
When you fall in a bottomless pit, you die of starvation.
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2007-02-21, 3:34 PM #33
Those arent pits, those are tunnels >.>
2007-02-21, 4:03 PM #34
Originally posted by Deathcheep14:
You know guys,if you have watched episode VI:ROTJ,then you'l probably have noticed palpatine died in a blue haze of energy.That was the reactor's power,not one of the consequences of a bottomless pit (I'm just telling because on other forums,they mostly give such a answer).


Actually, it's a proven fact that falling down bottomless pits always produce what the scientist call the blue haze effect. Countless rodents were hurled down bottomless pits to obtain and prove this information.

PSYDUCK.
幻術
2007-02-21, 7:59 PM #35
Originally posted by Michael MacFarlane:
When you fall in a bottomless pit, you die of starvation.


I can't believe it took this long for someone to say that.

I'm disappointed in all of you.
2007-02-21, 8:56 PM #36
Originally posted by Deathcheep14:
You know guys,if you have watched episode VI:ROTJ,then you'l probably have noticed palpatine died in a blue haze of energy.That was the reactor's power,not one of the consequences of a bottomless pit (I'm just telling because on other forums,they mostly give such a answer).


Luke's fall would've been into Bespin's molten core
Maul's fall was into a reactor
Nar Shadda falling would be the closest to a bottomless pit, which, if you put god mode on, you fall forever in DF
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Free Jin!
2007-02-21, 9:00 PM #37
You will scream, everything will fade to black, and suddenly you will be respawned in a flurry of green pixels at some arbitrary location with some beeping nearby.
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2007-02-21, 9:11 PM #38
Originally posted by Masq:
This is an interesting question.

I think the concept of falling necessitates that some body's gravity is drawing an object (you) towards its gravitational center. (This definition is the basis of my following claims).

Since you are being attracted to a specific point, by the very definition it wouldn't be possible to fall forever; you will eventually reach that point in space (assuming an outside force doesn't interfere). Even the hypothetical tunnel going through the center of a planet wouldn't allow you to fall forever, as you would eventually come to rest after oscillating a bit (as someone already described). That point in the tunnel where you come to rest is essentially the bottom of the bottomless pit.


You quite correct, but there is a case you did not consider. Take for example a Hollow Torus in orbit around a perfect point source of gravity. In this case, a person could be places inside the Torus and sent into orbit around the point source of gravity in such a way that the entirety of the persons orbit was inside of the torus. From the person’s frame of reference they would be falling forever, and since the system should be stable, he would continue falling forever.
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2007-02-21, 10:12 PM #39
Actually I think you'd die of dehydration first.

Or perhaps hypothermia as the wind makes it nearly impossible for you to maintain your body temperature...
2007-02-22, 1:06 AM #40
Originally posted by Rob:
I can't believe it took this long for someone to say that.

I'm disappointed in all of you.


Look mister,I know that you'l nt survive the fall (that's quite logic).But will it continue?Is it bottomless?

Still some questions left,eh :D .
Your little gentleman!
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