So you're saying, "Why fix anything at all if you can't fix everything at once?" It's called progress. Moving forward one step at a time is better than standing still.

Moderation.

If a parent specially walks out on the balcony in winter, just to keep the smoke out of house... S`ok.

If said parent smokes up the room so much one needs a gas mask to walk through - not ok.

Hey guys, I like to smoke weed. Can we talk about that in here?

I don't smoke and haven't got much against smokers since I don't mind the smell. The only thing that bugs me is the coughing you get off second hand smoke.

I think smoking is GROSS. I always hate it when I see a hot girl/guy, and then they light up a cigarette. Totally kills the attraction.

Therefore, use hookah. They are sophisticated, and look nice.

I prefer to smoke it, or pipe. Cigarettes are trashy. When I still had cravings, I used to nab one or two, but not really anymore, as of late.

As every vice, it could be quite.. life-enhancing, if used in moderation.
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That with caveat, that you can take it, of course. If the idea itself repulses... Just stay away. Body knows best, what it needs. ^_^

I smoke cigars because I'm

I voted yes, but smoke very, very rarely. I've only ever smoked when I drink, and even then it's just at the occasional party. I could probably count the number of times I smoke per year on one hand.

Anyway, if you haven't tried it, cigarettes + alcohol = omgawesome. Actually, you're probably better off not trying it.

Eh... In appropriate mood.

cigarette + vodka = bad mood.

pipe + beer = gabbing mood.

hookah + wine = good mood.

I smoke cigarettes and weed.

And if you think this is the first time smoking weed has been brought up on these forums, you're in for a surprise.

I don't smoke, and as long as I don't have to stand around someone who is smoking, I don't mind what people decide on their smoking preferences. I just don't handle well with breathing/tasting smoke. I don't even do well with incense anymore, which is sad.

Well, it`s your forum.

Frankly, I`ve seen forums being kicked off hosting because of "promoting drug usage", as official cause. Basis was someone confessing he hits the bong.

Thus, I tend to favor "better safe, then sorry".

How 'bout, it's not your forum, so quit being the nanny?

I'm really hoping you get banned soon.

You've already admitted in another thread that you're just trying to piss Jon`C off, and if memory serves me correct, that's grounds for banning. I'm not trying to mini-mod or anything, but the fact is, I think you're getting on a lot of nerves around here.

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Antony, I do not overstep civil matters.

Yes, I said, that I will argue with Jon`C for the sake of it - but I never said, that I will do something forbidden to do that.

I am entirely free to express my opinion, and as long as Jon`C keeps addressing me, he will get argument back.

Frankly, if he`s annoyed at me, he could`ve stopped it long ago just by dropping his rudeness, or for lack of such courtesy, plainly dropping me into ignore.

Honestly, I`m a lawful person, and I will not intentionally seek him out just to aggravate, as long as he does not goes out of his way just to poke me.

Words... cannot.... describe... hatred...

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PARADOX!

I don't smoke. I don't like smoke. And if you blow smoke in my face, I will extend your smile to your ears and chop your *f-bomb* nipples off. Have a nice day

Fair enough. I`d be pissed, if someone blew smoke in my face, too.

its obvious that non smokers are, on average, far more whiney than their laid-back lung cancer counter-parts.

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I thought you smoked.

Ruthven is the one that tips us into balance.

Cigarettes aren't trashy...it's all tobacco. The only cigarettes that are trashy are brands like "Seneca", "USA Heroes" etc etc, the ones that cost a dollar to two dollars a pack.

I'm not gonna say I smoked "high class" just because I smoked newports, but goddamn they tasted a lot better than most cigarettes. In fact, all the taste I got from them was a slightly mentholated taste.

And tobacco is in no way "life enhancing". All it does is make you feel calm for a few minutes, then rattled even more for the next couple hours or so until you have another cigarette. That's why I quit--the cravings were getting worse and the actual want to smoke wasn't equal to the cravings--I was sick of it. Finally I just decided it wasn't worth the time/effort, threw away half a pack, and haven't smoked in a few days now.


See, the thing is, smoking is optional, whereas many of those aren't, and the ones that are generally don't cause cancer and don't have almost 3000 chems in them, every 1 in 100 of which are poisons, iirc. Thirty poisons in each cigarette, and your kid, whose body is still developing and growing, has to breathe it in. Do you have any idea how ****ing horrible that is sometimes? I agree with Mentat--anyone who subjects their kids to secondhand smoke should have their kids taken away. This is coming from someone who used to smoke and who used to be subjected to second hand smoke all the way up until the age of 17 or so when I finally started doing it myself (after which time I decided it wasn't worth saying I was "subjected" to it.)

PS--Alice, quit trying to mod the forums. That's what the admins are here for. Also, yeah, I like to smoke weed, and seeing as how that can easily relate to cigarettes (I know people who started smoking cigs to stop smoking weed, blunts are basically 1/4 tobacco, etc etc), I think it's rather on topic. I've said a lot worse about drugs on here, as have other people, and if the admins deem it inappropriate, they'll step in (as they have before). So shut up.

The cheapest, trashiest cigarettes I've ever seen were "Red Buck" cigarettes. They are 60% paper according to the package.

SMAWKIN IS FUR LOOOZRZ. IM HIGH ON LYFE!

And here we have another useless post by SAJN...

Cite just ONE credible source that says those chemicals are harmful in moderate exposures. E.g. not chugging a quart of Febreeze.

I don't smoke, don't see the attraction in it. I am relatively indifferent to the smell of smoke as long as long as someone isn't holding a cigarette 2cm away from my eyes. Smoke all you want but be considerate about it, be prepared to go outside if there are people who can't stand the smell. I can personally in general but at the end of the day its giving people around you cancer. Smokers should be the first to be considerate not expect everyone else to be considerate instead.

I used to hate the smell, but it doesn't really bother me now, if I go to a pub/bar/club I expect there to be smoke and thats life. The above comment about smokers being considerate is more applicable in general to other places where you might not expect smoke, a house, etc.

Smoking is not an attractive trait really but if you want to do it then go for it. Nothing to do with me (unless of course your almost burning my eyes out with your cherry - i hate people in packed crowds who smoke cos they generally hold their cigarettes right near my eye level which makes me a little paranoid and ever worrying about them burning me)

Not everyone is so indifferent as me, smokers should respect that.

MARIJUANA!

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

BAN!

I couldn't either.

I smoke the occasional cigar, but it's always, always in a well-ventilated outdoor area.

you know i hate supplying links 'cause anyone can supply a link to support anything.
anway, the heart and lung association of canada and the american lung association both support 'no scents is good sense' work places. you can download signs to post at work from their websites.
california is going to make perfume companies put ingredients on labels and the perfume companies hate it. they've been fighting it for 30 years.

for me to comply with your request would be impossible Emon. but it would also be impossible for you to show me that any one, a mixture of, or all of those unknown chemical stews don't do any harm in moderate exposures as directed by the manufacturer.
what's in febreeze? what's in the perfume men and women wear? what's in fabric softener that makes it smell so pretty? just because it smells pretty does it make it ok to breathe in, even in moderation when they're all mixed together as they are 99% of the time?

strangley, at least we know what we're exposed to when sucking down a cigarette. the rest of the crap that we're forced to breathe by people trying to smell nice is a crap shoot.


it's a heck of a lot easier to take febreeze off the shelves than it is cigarettes. the government doesn't make billions in taxes on febreeze.
funnily enough when quebec banned RoundUp (weed killer) the residents went kookoo because now they're going to have dandelions on their lawns. ontario is phasing in a ban on the known carcinogen and golf green lawn owners are crying out. 'we'd rather mutate life in the water shed than have a dandelion on our lawns! you can't take our carcinogens away from us!' hilarious.
what ever happened to some good old non-cancer baking soda for you sofa? sprinkle some on and vacuum up 15 minutes later?

anyway, who cares. no one is going to get rid of cigarettes any time soon, but the next time someone complains to me about lighting up close to them while we're outside in downtown toronto i'm going to pants them and push them in front of a bus.

People have used modern perfumes for decades and I don't remember any studies showing they would be extra dangerous.

The world is made of smelly stuff. That's why we have noses in the first place. If you are suspicious of everything that smells, then it's just for you.

I don't actually care about this conversation, but the burden of proof is yours. It's virtually impossible to disprove something like that anyway.

Also, by smoking cigarettes you have terrible taste.

lassev, why would anyone wait for a study to show you something is bad for you? can you say scotchguard? ddt? those and many others were such a convenience sprayed all over our homes and neighbourhoods for decades until they were banned for being quite horrible carcinogens.

i don't care either jon'c. it's a creationist/evolution conversation. one will refuse to see the other side regardless of proof or validity.

back on topic. i enjoy a nice smoke after dinner and while having a coffee at morning break. it's nice.

I know you don't care and it's good that you're saying you don't. Flimsy attempts to shift the burden of proof are sort of a pet peeve of mine though, which is why I pointed it out.

I smoke.

I always try, though, to be the least possible trouble to others. Typically, when the weather is even slightly good, I go outside to smoke (unless I'm in a bar). If the weather isn't good and there's people who aren't too fond, I smoke a lot less than I regularly would. Also; no smoking when there's little kids nearby.

The whole problem for me, though, is the people that make it their life's purpose to be a drama queen whenever they catch a glimpse of a cigarette. Newsflash: you've got a mouth, use it to politely ask someone to move aside, rather than to act like you're coughing your guts out while in reality nothing's wrong.

EDIT: Also, my cigarette butts go into ashtrays, where they belong.

only hookah and sometimes a pipe. black Cavendish is just delicious!