Do you know this from experience?

My brother cut the artery between his thumb and index, and that squirt pretty far. That's a smaller artery, and farther from the heart.

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Steal my dreams and sell them back to me.....

Those movies rock

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

So far Brian and I are the only ones who have actually addressed the topic

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Ω of 14

Sure, why not?

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Roach - Caught in the war of hemispheres.
0 of 14.

First off, I'm not for banning any movies at all.

However, I find it bothersome how none of you seem to want to question the effect of violent movies (and videogames for that matter) to healthy minds. Science has yet to point out anything conclusive one way or the other.

Many will say "But I've seen tons of gory material and I'm fine." and I can't say I haven't seen lots of that and I've never gotten the urge to kill anyone. I don't think this is proof enough for us to disregard the thought of violent material affecting us completely.

I can't imagine any stable person going out on a whim to kill people because of something he saw on film...I believe that if there are detrimental effects of some sort, they're more subtle than that.

[Edit] Why do the forums parse out single spaces before new lines (it would help dividing a big paragraph dealing with essentially the same issue into "subparagraphs" to keep it coherent if they didn't)? [/edit]

[This message has been edited by Krokodile (edited July 17, 2004).]

In short: Grow up, it's just a movie. People like you are the reason most great books are banned in some states



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Books are banned?

Which books have been banned?

On a completely unrelated note, I think it's terribly amusing how "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone" was renamed and the scenes mentioning "Philosopher" were refilmed for the American release.

And as for the topic, well.. it's not really that interesting anyway. Osiris and Brian have pretty much discussed it as far as it can go, it's much more fun to go off on a semi-related tangent.

Not one to follow Potter series, what was the original title?

Oh and Ruthven, hush. No they should NOT be banned because your subconscious mind decided to give you a bit of fright. How about this, don't watch the Kill Bill series (or any other frightning/violent movie) until you can stomach the content and don't ruin the fun for the rest of us. World doesn't revolve around you mon ami.


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"Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone"
Harry Potter almost was banned as well, because it "promotes witchcraft"

Some books banned in many states are:

Farhenheit 451
Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn(probobly not spelled right at all)
To Kill a Mockingbird
Uncle Tom's Cabin
Gone with the Wind
The Bible
Of Mice and Men
Lord of the Flies
Catcher in the Rye
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[This message has been edited by matrixhacker (edited July 17, 2004).]

Gandalf - The original title was indeed Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. It was changed to Sorcerer's Stone in the States because it was basically thought it would market better. When she wrote the book, conquering the States wasn't exactly on her mind!

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If at first you don't succeed, lower your standards.

Where?

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Roach - Caught in the war of hemispheres.
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THERE IS NO DIRECT LINK BETWEEN VIOLENT MEDIA AND VIOLENT BEHAVIOR

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He means nations.

Although it's worth noting that some of the above books are banned in U.S. public schools, notably Huck Finn.

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Ω of 14

Except that I remember reading Huck Finn in my junior year.

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Roach - Caught in the war of hemispheres.
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Avenger, when the heck did batle royale 2 come out, i gotta see that

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You lot should be thankful that 'Of Mice and Men' is banned.

You've been spared the torture of every British schoolboy doing English GCSE.

Next up, the taming of the shrew. :-(


Also Battle Royale 2 was out a year or so ago. I haven't found an English version of it, so you'll have to download the original mpeg and a subtitle file and vobsub them.
I don't imagine it'll be released in Britain or America. It's a lot more political than the first, it's very anti-American and even subtly pro-'terrorist', depending on how you see it (and depending on the subtitle file you get). The opening scene is of two towers collapsing, for which Shuya Nanahara (and Noriko, probably) is responsible.

The Battle Royale books are also very political, but in a different way. They seem to be quite anti-communist, in a way, but also anti-American too. The books are a lot more violent than the films.

You lot should be thankful that 'Of Mice and Men' is banned.

^...Uhhh, why?

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Read the next sentence.

I read through the document. The research conducted by those cited is not the only research on the subject out there. Here's a link: http://whyfiles.org/165video_violence/3.html (also contains a link to "the flipside of the argument", as in the side taken by the document you provided).

When I say science has not been able to provide us with anything conclusive on the matter, I mean science has yielded contradictive results and thus the big questions remain unanswered.

I'm not saying there has to be a direct link. I'm not even saying there is a link. I sure as hell am not shifting people's responsibility of their actions over to videogames or TV. My common sense simply can't get over the thought that maybe constant exposure to realistically depicted murders, rapes, thefts and whatnot on TV and playing them out in videogames isn't completely harmless even when you can distinguish them from reality.