Hey, I'm not sure how many of you current users remember me, since I haven't been active at Massassi in almost a year (Massassi does, of course, still own my soul). I was just thinking about the board though, and remember there being some great religious debates that went on here (one of which is responsible for my abandoning of religion and becoming an atheist, thank you). I'm not sure if there's any libertarians or anarchists on here either, don't know that I've ever seen the discussion come up.

Anyhow, I thought I would let any of you that fit one or both of those category's know about another board I now frequent, [url]GraveyardOfTheGods.com/forum[/url]. The board is very anti-censorship (aside from deleting the occasional ad-post and moving off topic threads, and with the exception of one of the forums dedicated to activism), and is dominated primarily by atheist Market Anarchists and libertarians. If any of you fall along those lines, you might be interested by some of the conversation there.

If you do check out the board and like it, make sure to post in the introduction forum. You'll also want to post your religious and political view, since it's the first thing you'll be asked anyhow. I go by PlatypusOfCarnage on the board, myself. Perhaps I'll see some of you on there. If not, I'm still lurking around here once in a while anyhow.

I post there now and again. It's a horrible forum, honestly. Lots and lots of angry, stupid, ignorant people.

What is a market anarchist?

Edit: nvm, I found some literature. Actually it's very close to what I've been thinking lately.

If a forum is runned by anarchists, shouldn't everyone be an admin?

I would think if it were run by anarchists, no one would be an admin.

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(I believe Echoman was thinking "communist" >.>)

No. Echoman had it right; you guys have it backwards. In Communism, everyone would be a member. In anarchy, everyone would be an admin. Think about it, in anarchy, everyone can be walking around with the big guns and do anything they want. Therefore, they have the ability to delete others' posts, etc. In communism, everyone is equal.

equal in leadership then, in theory.

Which contradicts the anarchist theory of no power at all. None. No administrations/administrators.

html sucks

Muhaha Massassi doesn't own my soul. ;o

I don't think it wants yours.

Right, no LEADERS, but ULTIMATE FREEDOM. Adminship is the closest thing you have to ULTIMATE FREEDOM on a forum.

Admins create a hierarchy in leadership. Those with power will use it to define themselves as authority (in reguardz to da intarweb), in which case those who would have believed in anarchy on those forums would not be following their practices and set up a form of governing system! This certainly limits freedom, wouldn't you say?

I don't know why I'm arguing this anyways. This doesn't matter. None of this matters. Just don't go to the forums if you have prejudice against it.

But not if everyone is an admin.

Libertarian more like LOLbertarian am I right?


...seriously though. I've been around the internet more than a few times and I've learned one thing: the more unmoderated a forum is the more retarded its users are.

Beyond the fact that there are no rules and therefore no quality control whatsoever - sorta like imsoshort's threads, only with more hello.jpg, lemonparty, faces of death and pain series - these forums attract the people who were banned from other forums because they had no self control.

Because this is a moderated forum and, therefore, better than the unmoderated ones, I feel that I am required to post proof that what I am stating is valid. I therefore choose to provide you with a case study: AutoAdmit/Xoxohth.

AutoAdmit is an entirely unmoderated forum for law students. Most people who post there post anonymously for various reasons. They are all prone to extreme misogyny and use the forum to create a hostile working environment for the women in their field who refuse to have sex with them.

I'm sure there are other examples out there. Perhaps the forum you linked to is one of them, but I'm not going to click on that link. I'm not anything even close to a Libertarian anyway. :p

They seem pretty civil unless a Christian comes along.

Then all hell breaks loose.

Its because of this forum that i decided that organized religon is bad.

I think all the atheists on the forum are rejoicing now.

I actually used to frequent a forum that was almost completely unmoderated, and far more polite and intelligent than most.

Unfortunately, then one of the users posted a thread about how funny it is to remove Garfield's speech bubbles from the comics and the thing went viral and now the forum is full of stupies. :[

This board he's advertising; it is basically a place for people to go and bloviate with people who think exactly the way they do, right?

Geez. If I wanted that, do you think I'd be on Massassi?

****ing Libertarians make is so hard to be an atheist.

****ing atheists make it so hard to be a libertarian.

Hehe.

This is not a logical corollary

Is it not?

I was under the impression that you didn't have to be an atheist to be a Libertarian (though as most of them worship Ayn ****ing Rand, they tend to be), and you can plausibly be a Christian Libertarian. somehow. probably.

I wouldn't recommend you try, though, you might do yourself an injury.

It's painful sometimes, but I cope. Mainly by not insisting that my personal morals be turned into laws for everyone.

That place sounds like a den of retarded.


I'd go on there just to troll the kids in the tweed sweaters with buddy holly glasses, but I already get that action on live journal. And live journal has more bad poetry for me to make fun of.

Current board structures don't promote exactly the kind of setup we're looking for, but the owners are trying to make it as censorship-free as possible. That said, the board is neither owned by nor populated by a high number of communists/socialists - we're mostly pro-private property. So it wouldn't be a contradiction for the board to endorse admins and be a dick about it. But it's just not the desire of those who run it.

Hierarchy and organization != government. Anarchists are anti-government, but not anti-organization. I just thought I'd make that point. If you like the board, join. If you don't, don't. Just thought I'd plug it to my old stomping ground, maybe see a few familair faces over there.

Kirby - what do (did) you post under?

Actually... no, I won't point out the obvious.

TheBSG or BSG, I can't remember.

And your idea of anarchism is not anarchism. It's stupid.

Government IS organization. Are you a socialist? That's what you're talking about. Socialism.

The first thing that caught my eye was that Jesus was on the 'graveyard of the gods' logo. He wasn't a god, he was a prophet, and he certainly existed unlike say, zeus.

Thumbs down, try to be intelligent and already you have me laughing.

jesus was in the sky but then he went into a sperm and swam into a whore's vagine and popped out and walked around for a while but got bored told some guys to cut him up so he could fly back to the sky (he might come back down if he gets bored)

Except the whole point of christianity is that jesus was supposed to be god.

No, that's the point of Roman Catholicism. The point of Christianity is that Jesus is the son of God and now leads humanity at God's side. The concept of Incarnation (or avatarhood, whichever you prefer) is a ridiculous contrivance that early Christians invented because they were not able to reconcile the existence of Jesus against the first Commandment.


I mean, the Ten Commandments were a part of God's covenant with mankind and the Gospels state that Jesus was part of a New Covenant (overriding the old one), but most Christians don't pay any attention to the New Testament anyway. They just shout "Praaaaaaise Jesus" and clap.

jesus drew his blood so that i wouldn't have to draw a sheep's blood so god wouldn't draw my blood

God and Zeus have identical likelyhoods.

A lot of libertarian's are Deist, rather than Christian (most of the founding fathers were deists). My Econ teacher is a Libertarian, but also a Calvinist, which I thought was a weird combination.

HAHAHAHA, Calvinist?

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I was raised in a church that certainly wasn't catholic. The basic idea that was taught was that Jesus(son of god) = god = holy spirit. But they arnt the same. Except they are. Also our inferior human mind cannot comprehend this so don't bother trying.