...do you not shower?

I guess I just think that if someone's body is going to be permanently altered, they should have say in it. If a circumcision needs to be performed for legitimate medical reasons later on (such as in Simbachu’s case), then so be it.

Not to mention, every now and then a circumcision is botched and the penis is mutilated, and that's not a risk I'd be willing to subject my future son to.

(Would I get in trouble if I linked to Dan Savage's sex column? He had an column a few weeks ago about this issue.)

Pretty much what I was going to post. But then, I'm the kind of guy that would have his arm hacked off if it could be replaced with a robot arm. Like Terminator, only without the skin over it. I want that shiney metal exposed.

Ok, yes, it makes it easier for bacteria to grow and it does smell.. IF YOU DON'T CLEAN IT!!!! do you know what else is a cesspool of bacteria and smells if you don't clean it? YOUR MOUTH!! it's the EXACT same thing.

And the second part about making it easier to contract diseases is grossly misinformed... Your sources are outdated.. I suggest everyone read these "medical" site about it. (it is not a pro-circ nor anti-circ) it just lists the facts... there are no pictures, but be careful what you click on.. It appears to be a site designed to assist parents in deciding to circ, or not to circ

http://www.circumcision.org/hiv.htm
http://www.expectantmothersguide.com/library/philadelphia/circumcision.htm
http://www.infocirc.org/medical.htm#recommend
http://www.nocircpa.org/4642.html

HAY GUYS.

EVERY LINK ON THE INTERNET CONTAINS FACTS!!!!!111

I don't really care either way.

However, I've always wanted to go back in time to the first circumcision and possibly find out what in god's name was going on in the heads of the first people who did this.

I mean, seriously, imagine that you're some caveman and you decide to just lob off part of your son's dick. What the ****?

Bacteria in your mouth are killed because the temperature inside your mouth is... survey says... 37 degrees Celsius, or for us burgerboys, 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit, whereas the temperature underneath your foreskin isn't! And, by showering, you leave moisture underneath the foreskin, only furthering the growth of that bacteria!

So, unless you take a hair dryer underneath the sheath of our mighty sword, you're gonna get the bacteria, the smell, and coupled with the tears that occur from sexual intercourse, the disease.

...no. No that's pretty much completely wrong, fishstickz. Bacteria like body temp. If they died at 98.6 then humans would in general be immune to bacteria.

Context:v:

There are, you know, about 500 kajillion different kinds of bacteria.

(PS, theres a reason why it's easier to get sick when it's cold)

lol.. so you think there isn't bacteria in your mouth? and you actually think that showering is why it stays "moist" when you are uncirced?? even if you dry it out completely after a shower it will get moist again cause you have glands that are similar to your salivary glans down there (not really glands, but the special type of skin it's made of produces it) it's VERY similar to your eyes... which is why my statement about cutting off baby's eye lids is so damn awesome!!!

All I know is if you're not circumsized the head of your member is guarded in daily use... which makes sex feel a whole lot better. I for one, am totally glad that I didn't have the tip of my cock lopped off. It feels NICE.

Please don't take my penis or my teeth.

You ever smell a non-douched vagina? The scent and cleanliness of a crotch shouldn't be debated. Proper drying has ALWAYS been an issue for FAR more than the lobe under foreskin. If you leave any part of your body wet, you will get bacteria there. Period. Pull the skin back, firmly squeeze with towel, and you're done.

But I shouldn't have to teach you how to clean/dry. The arguments about bacteria, aids, and other crap like that are BS. Condoms solve this issue. 3rd worlds can't afford 400 dollar procedures to have it removed anyway, so if they could afford the surgery, they could afford condoms, too.

lol... I am so sure this thred is going to be closed very soon.

Not to mention that America is really the only country where the majority of people get circed... if the HIV stuff is true, why are we not seeing horrible outbreaks in Europe, Russia, Germany and such?

Given traditionally that you've shown yourself to be a collosal numbskull, I seriously doubt nearly all of that.

PS, EWWWW. Who would want a slimy ding dong all the time anyways.

No, he's right, the glans is supposed to maintain a slight lubrication.

why don't you research things before you comment? it'll be much less embarrassing for you in the end, i promise.
I am posting known facts.. what do you have?

Thats kinda gross.

Hey, how is that movie deal going for you?

OH HEY.

PS, your spelling is pretty bad too.

it's only gross because you're not use to it.. that's like sayin, eww, who would want slimey mouth all the time (or a slimey Vagina for girls)... it's the same thing.. it's not "slimey" just moist

Haha Rob, no one even knows what you're talking about these days anyway... although it is funny you dredge that up again

Haha, it will actually probably suprise you to know that I have worked on several movies as a make up artist, and I work professionally at Universal Studios as a Horror Make up artist. How's living in your mom's basement doing for you?

[PS: i still can't believe that you took me serious about the whole "movie deal" thing.. ha.. now's who's the idiot]

Besides, what does that have to do with this conversation?

YOU CAN'T COMPARE YOUR MOUTH TO YOUR PENIS UNLESS YOU PERFORM AUTOFELATIO WHICH IS STILL GROSS.


Two totally different sets of organs. It's like comparing your kidneys to your colon. Or your heart with your liver.

YEAH, THEY DO SOME OF THE SAME STUFF SORTA.

But hey, they're both different.

What surprises me is that your grasp of spelling is worse than mine.



PS, I don't care what you do for a living. You're still a bonehead.

Those are some awesome facts to back up your circumcision point, you are brilliant.

...*sigh*

I know the thread is closed...and I might reopen it for a rebuttal but are you seriously kidding me?? If this were the case then Crest, Colgate, Listerine, etc would be VERY concerned right about now. Human mouths are one of the dirtiest places on our bodies. Dogs mouths are cleaner!

Also, it takes a much warmer temperature for bacteria to die.

There are hundreds of millions of kinds of bacteria, all of which die at hundreds of different temperature. Yes, some bacteria will live in the confines of your mouth, but alot of them will die. This is probably the evolutionary function of a high body temperature.

By creating a pocket of 70ish degree temperature, paired with moisture from your body, moisture from showering, moisture from wet t-shirt contests, you're creating an ideal breading ground for bacteria, some of which WOULD die in the confines of your mouth. Hell, it could be the same bacteria that causes gingevitis in the mouth, I don't know enough to say.

However, I know a friend this happened to, he showered every day, scrubbed it out all the time, but the smell kept coming back, and angered his girlfriend. The only way for him to take care of this was to take a blow dryer underneath the foreskin every day (Sometimes multiple times a day), until he eventually had a circumcision when he was 16.

Everyone avoided my main point, people that get angry over this are angry at their parents, society, their clergy, whatever for some reason, and this is a conduit for that rage. Circumcision is such a non issue. Go ahead and shoot this down, and this is my opinion that I could probably back up with facts if I had millions of dollars to research this point, so don't bring up the "lack of facts" argument.

And curse JediGandalf for deciding to opening the thread and not giving me evil mod powers.

Ewww, what was he doing waiving his weiner at girls at age sub-14.

Thats kinda gross dude.

Mistyped, he was 16.

I posted about how you're a knucklehead, and then went to go read.

However, the reasons for calling you a numbskull, which I presented, were facts.

The ball is in your court mr. makeup.

Hahaha, okay, but thats only a little better.

Just to correct kirb in something he implied about women who don't douche smelling. Very, very few women ever douche anymore. Most doctors actually don't reccomend the practice.

I was going to say something about that too.

But decided not too because I already made a racist joke, so I wasn't going to go insult stickgirl in the same thread.

The way I see it: Who wants to wear a hat ALL the time?

Sure it's nice to have one during the winter, or to keep your hair out of your face (if it's long enough.)

But in the summer!? Won't your head get really hot and sweaty under that hat?!

if sexual stimulation goes down from having your foreskin removed. Why not just prince that sucker. There are plenty of places you can pierce a penis, there are also ribbed condoms and other fancy pleasure enhancing designs. Heck. Why not just INVENT a whole new line of prosthetic foreskins for those unfortunate veterans of the doctors knife? You could make them different colors and have blinking lights! You could have them designed after your favorite pokemon. Oohh, Or ever BETTER. The space slug from star wars!

My friends. This might be the beginning of a golden age of Fashion.

Meh, I don't care. If I don't remember it, it didn't happen.

I had a circumcision because of medical reasons, and that's just about the only logical reason for it in my opinion.

unless ur a godbotherer lawl :downs:

Because they don't know what to do with it.


They still practice it in some parts of Africa and the Middle east. It ranges in severity from removal of the clitoral hood to sewing the entire thing up, except for a little hole to pee out of. On her wedding night, her husband gets to rip it open. Now that's hot.


It really depends on what they're used to seeing. I'm circumcised, so naturally uncut penises look unusual to me. Some look nice though.

As for sensitivity, the glans is more sensitive if you're uncircumcised. Think about it: if you have no foreskin, all day your head is rubbing against your undies/pants. You don't even notice it because you've become used to it. But if your head is tucked away all the time, it will be more sensitive.

As to health... just clean the damn thing. It's not that hard.

In a few cases there are medical reason why circumcision is necessary, however circumcision because of tradition or religion seems stupid to me.

You don't need 5 toes on each foot. Should one be removed at birth? You wont have any trouble walking because you wont have learned to walk yet.

WTF.
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