http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/12/microsoft-plans-on-slashing-360-to-mass-market-price-point/

I knew it was gonna happen, and it'll probably plummet the price of the "Elite". So if you're planning on picking one up, wait a bit.

Hey, maybe I can get a 360 in time for Stuntman: Ignition.

It won't be coming in the next couple months. Microsoft's established that with numerous people already.

Yeah, baby, yeah!

I just got one and it works fine... All these people getting their panties in a twist over some small percentage.

I'm still debating over whether or not to get a Wii or a 360. I get a pretty significant discount on both...

Get a Wii. It's awesome. Even Wii sports is a hell of a lot of fun. I'm awesome at boxing and baseball, but I fail at tennis hard.

im really considering just getting one off ebay, but would this be worth it to just wait for a price cut?

I've had my 360 since November and my Wii since February. I play the 360 way, way more.

I guess it depends on what kind of gamer you are.

I would wait until they release the defect free version, as Microsoft just admitted that all Xbox 360s have a design flaw which potentially causes them to malfunction.

I was thinking of picking one up after the price cut, but was then unable to think of a single game on the 360 that I wanted to play. :/

Microsoft also provides a 3-year warranty for the General Hardware Failure i.e. Red Ring of Death problem that results from the defect(s). By the time a recently bought console fails, the warranty will likely still be in effect and they'll have a way to fix the problem on faulty 360s (with the $1 billion they've put aside to do just that).



Exclusive:
Bioware's Mass Effect, Splinter Cell Conviction, Banjo-Kazooie 3, Dead Rising, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Lost Odyssey, Crackdown, Too Human (Eternal Darkness dewds)

I assume you don't care about Halo 3 or Halo Wars.

Then there is also Grand Theft Auto IV with exclusive content (unless you want the PS3 version).

Bioshock is a console exclusive and the 360 is the lead platform on that one, but you could play it on PC.

I don't know if you are a Playstation 3 faithful or a die-hard PC gamer, but a number of the above titles are highly anticipated.

this thread is about the possible price drop not the RROD



this list looks rather complete... nothing mising at all























GEARS OF WAR!!!!!!

GoW isn't 360 exclusive.

at the moment it is...

Gears of War PC release is gonna be so hot (luckily I'm upgrading my comp too).

A shame about Mass Effect's 360 exclusivity. Stupid Biowhores.

I already beat Gears of War SP, and I dont own a 360. I beat it on my friends'. Is the MP any good?

let me think... yes

i suck at it and get raped by all the experienced players but i enjoy it

1) The percentage is 33.3%. That means you have a 1 in 3 chance of your 360 failing sooner or later.
2) Your 360 could fail at any time. Meaning right after you pull it out of the box, or two years down the line.
3) If it's "all these people" then, logically, the percentage can't be small can it?

Epic just punched all the 360 owners in the face by announcing that the exclusive content for the PC version probably won't be coming to the 360.

CliffyB's words:
"If we didn't have any exclusives on the PC, why would anybody have the PC version?" When asked if the extra content was a timed exclusive, Cliffy replied with "to-be-determined."

In my opinion, it'll probably come to the 360 at some point (timed exclusive), but just the fact that there's a question at all really pisses me off.

Gears of War isn't exclusive in the same sense that the Halo Franchise isn't exclusive.

In other words.

it's Exclusive.

Epic's always supported consoles, but been geared (no pun intended) more towards PC. I'm sorry, but I don't see how this surprises you really.

Epic likes it when people make their games for them.

I honestly can't see Gears of War playing very well without a gamepad. It's not a mouse and keyboard game.

Everything is all about the games. What games interest you the most? Which console has more games that you want to play? Are you big on online gaming? Because the X-Box 360 is the best right now when it comes to online gaming of the three current consoles.

Right now the wii has like, 3 playable games... unless you're 7 years old.

The 360 is a much more powerful machine, outputs in high definition (Nintendo's first big mistake alienating people with HDTVs), has a slew of really good games out now that, while yes, some are available on other platforms, perform very well and are very fun.

Microsoft's customer support is top notch. The marketplace is one of the greatest developments in gaming history. The 360 has the PERFECT controller.

I do own a wii and a 360, and I play the 360 quite a bit more. Right now the only thing worthy about the wii is the virtual console, and there's really not enough available on that yet.

Ideally, I say go with both systems. The Wii60 gaming combo is great. The 360 offers (with the right setup) an outstanding high definition gaming experience, whereas the wii is great for stupid fun if you have a couple friends come over or you have a party or family reunion.

Uh...no. Super Paper Mario, RE4, Twilight Princess, Wario Ware, Elebits, not to mention all the virtual console games.

[quote=Darth J]The 360 is a much more powerful machine, outputs in high definition (Nintendo's first big mistake alienating people with HDTVs), has a slew of really good games out now that, while yes, some are available on other platforms, perform very well and are very fun.[/quote]
Because everyone knows that power is the only variable in what makes a good console. And that HDTVs are so overwhelmingly popular right now. Not like less than 20% of the American population owns them or something like that.

[quote=Darth J]Microsoft's customer support is top notch. The marketplace is one of the greatest developments in gaming history. The 360 has the PERFECT controller.[/quote]
1) Microsoft's customer support is only good because their console is royally ****ed in the head. If they would have made sure it worked right before they released it, it would've been mediocre customer support at best, seeing as how they'd not have anything to make up for.
2) The marketplace is pretty akin to what the wii and ps3 have done. I don't see how it's any more amazing than the virtual console, at the very least.
3) So your subjective observations makes something fact? Hurr.

Wow. I mean, this isn't even a hard question. The answer is "Because they don't own a 360."

When a lot of people own both, though, and you're trying to reach that demographic too...well it's actually pretty sound business decision making. I mean it may not be the best for the customer but it makes them money.

Maybe. It's always seemed weird to me that people would buy the same game for two different platforms.

I think I did that once. The original Rainbow Six was the game, but it wasn't really the same on both platforms.

How many times have you called support?

Me? Over 8 times. I have a defective HD/AV cable, the rubber/plastic shielding around the component cables has come loose, and pretty much just makes the cable look like it's falling apart. I've requested a replacement, and they still haven't delivered. Even after eight calls.

That being said.

They have (according to the ONE American I talked to out of the eight times I called) at least two call centers in India, and one in the US. There are American supervisors in the Indian call centers. Which call center you get is completely random. The reason their support is so nice is because, A. it pretty much is. And, B. the Indian's are all reading a script. I've called 8 times. Seven of them I got an Indian. Each of those calls was nearly identical. I hate Indian call centers now. Why? They read a script, and because they're Indian, they have a very hard time giving you information beyond what's in their script. The one time I got an American I received at least three times more information than in any of the previous seven calls, AND I discovered what the real hold up was.

My problem has been going on for well over a month. Their call center is fine. Their REPAIR center is what's holding everything up. The retards down there apparently keep expecting me to send in the defective cable. This is, as the American told me, NOT THEIR POLICY. Cables and other defective accessories are replaced based upon a no questions asked policy. They don't ask it to be sent back. They don't ask for proof. They just replace it, and you do whatever you want with the defective part. The Repair center knows this, and yet they still, for whatever screwed up reason, expect me to ship it to them. I'm still under warranty. I haven't called back since my chat with the American, but it sounded like if I wanted to ship this to them to try and move things along, that *I'D* be the one shelling out for it. Completely unacceptable.

The only good part in all this? I bought a VGA cable long before the HD/AV cable started breaking. So I have another AV cable. But still... This is stupid.

Now... My friend's 360 RRoDed earlier this month. He just got around to calling support yesterday, and had quite possibly the best experience possible. Not only did he get an American, they're (for anyone who DOESN'T know this by now) shipping out an empty box for him to send his 360 back in. He's got all the perks of the 3 year warranty right now, since he's long passed the one year. And they said he'd probably have it back inside of a week and a half after shipping it to them, and he'd get a renewed one year warranty.

Who knows how much of that is BS, but it's what we both heard. (This guy also said you shouldn't plug your console into a surge protector, but rather directly into the wall. Obviously an idiot, but that doesn't mean the rest isn't true.)

Long story short... yes, their service is alright, and pretty good, but really, I think most of that record is coming from people with simple questions to support, and the people that had to send their consoles back. Not from people like me, who just need a 30 dollar cable replaced, and are too damn cheap to just go buy a new one. Really I shouldn't HAVE to though. Especially if I'm under warranty.

not even going to list how many versions of doom i own

I'm actually going to end up doing it with HL2 just to get Portal, but that's because HL2 never ran very well on my computer anyway. I can't think of why someone would want to get another version of Gears at full price just for a little extra content, but if even one person who already owns the game buys the PC version because that content's not available for 360, I guess it's a good business decision. Plus it saves them whatever it'd cost to port that content to the 360.

A lot of Xbox 360 arcade releases have completely remastered graphics and added features like online multiplayer. Compare, say, Pac-Man for the Virtual Console to Pac-Man Championship Edition for the Live Marketplace.



The 360 console currently does have a major hardware flaw and it is unacceptable that they waited so long to act on it. However, you get free repairs for the Red Ring of Death issue for 3 years with the new warranty that covers the issue whether it happens when you purchase the console or 2 years down the road. When the console does inevitably fail the issue will have been ironed out and it will be a 1 to 2 week annoyance as the system gets sent to Microsoft and the hardware changes are implemented. It's not all doom and gloom like people make it out to be.

This thread is a great reminder to never buy a console right after it comes out on the market. Wait 6 months to a year (or more) so most of the bugs can get worked out.

Which is cool--however I like the VC better. It's got more games, and there's rumors they're going to start having homebrew on there at some point in time (which would be awesome).


Unless it's gone 3-4 times (like I've heard of before) and you lose 2-3 weeks every time. That's 6-12 weeks of not having something you paid quite a hefty price for. I would claim that wholly unacceptable. The only upside is at least now you don't lose all your data with the detachable harddrive...makes you wonder if they knew there was a serious ****up in their system before they designed it fully :p

Wow, you act like you built the wii system yourself. Like I said, I own both, I play both. The games you listed in favor of the wii system, in my opinion, are not great games.

I suppose I should preface everything I say with "in my opinion" because people like you seem to find sharing an opinion without stating the obvious fact that it IS an opinion offensive.

Wii sold ~8.2M consoles globally YTD. For us Yanks, it's ~3.1M. Now taking into an account for that missing 20% (assuming all purchase a Wii) that's 620,000.

Moral of the Post: While 20% may seem small, when dealing with sales in millions, 20% is a lot.

Less than 20%, last I checked 11% (but that was a while ago). And not a lot of those people play games--it's mostly older people who enjoy squandering the assloads of money they've amassed. And when you take into the account that the Wii's always been short stocked, I'm sure they'd have sold even more. HD matters...but not that much, especially when your system is barely more powerful than your previous one (which wasn't really meant for hd either).

You smell and I hate you.