http://www.womenswallstreet.com/WWS/article_landing.aspx?titleid=1&articleid=711

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http://www.womenswallstreet.com/WWS/article_landing.aspx?titleid=1&articleid=716

Forgive me if this has been posted in the past week or so and I somehow just missed it.

Anyway, wow, yeah that's really freakin' scary and even scarier, not really surprising.

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Cantina Cloud | BCF | The Massassian 1, 2 & 3 | Gonkmeg
Corrupting the kiddies since '97

Why were you on womens wall street

yea thats scary

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What once was...

At first I thought it was just a crazy white girl.

Then, I thought this was just some bogus, mis informed old hag who was trying to spread propaganda.

Oh, then, it seemed a little too... I don't know, suspicious. You'd think that the "Terrorists" would have been a bit more secretive, so maybe it was a routine test by the FBI?

But no... the facts all measure right. Either this is a great pile of BS, very well laid out, or I'm actually afraid to fly, which is NOT something I'd say, if you know me. My opinions are always 'if a terrorist is going to blow up the plane, they will. Worrying about it won't make it stop' but I'm actually a little afraid, now.

JediKirby

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Live on, Adam.

I just couldn't stop laughing.. I don't know, it's just in the way she talks.

"Then a couple of arab men passed by...


One of them had a goatee...

AND HE DID NOT SMILE AT ME. I was so worried."



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WAITER: Here’s your green salad, sir.
ANAKIN: What? You fool, I told you NO CROUTONS! Aaaaaaargh!

Hilarious. People are so stupid.

[This message has been edited by Ictus (edited July 20, 2004).]

I think it's valid, and quite justified. I mean you can say "people are so stupid" but do you know anyone whose lost anyone in 9/11, or even worse, lost anyone yourself? I mean just knowing that there's 14 arab men on a flight can give you the heebeejeebees--not because you're racist, but because you know how it happened last time. Not to say you should do anything until something happens, but still.

The fact that the LAPD, FBI, and Air Marshalls all reacted like they did makes me think this woman's thoughts were more than justified.


Also--FREAKING LONG ARTICLES MAN.

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This is where I would put my multiparagraph response, but my keyboard is malfunctioning. (z-b,s,spacebar charmap is suck)

Tomorrow, then.

[This message has been edited by Ictus (edited July 20, 2004).]

Given the sources who've confirmed her info I'm leaning towards taking it seriously...and I'm usually a skeptic.


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Cantina Cloud | BCF | The Massassian 1, 2 & 3 | Gonkmeg
Corrupting the kiddies since '97

Well there is a large muslim population in dearborn(e?) near Detroit.

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Given that arabs are the only people attacking us at this point I have to ask why the FACK we shouldn't be more suspicious of them. If the so-called innocent arabs exist, they should be glad to submit to the extra security for their own protection and the safety of their peers.

I sure wouldn't be complaining if my ethnic group (hispanics) were for some reason put in that position. Man this is a confusing country. Sometimes we take rights away for stupid reasons but it seems most of the time we go out of our way to bring danger upon ourselves by trying too hard to ensure people's rights.

NAPALM! GET YOUR NAPALM HERE!

TWO FOR FIVE DOLLARS!

NAPALM! GET YOUR NAPALM!

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WAITER: Here’s your green salad, sir.
ANAKIN: What? You fool, I told you NO CROUTONS! Aaaaaaargh!

One time I was riding the last subway train home with my friends, and there were some young middle-eastern guys scattered across the car. There's not much to do on the subway (nobody talks) so I started checking out my fellow passengers, which is when I noticed that four arab fellows (at least, I think they were arabs. They looked all araby. Not in an old-fashioned sikh way but in a hip twenty-first century undercover arab way) kept making eye contact. EYE CONTACT. I knew at once that they were communicating in some kind of secret terrorist code language.

Another look around the car revealed that none of the other travellers were clued in to the danger - they were either reading the advertisements lining the subway car or dozing in their seats, frozen in a subway stupor brought on by the slow, hypnotic rocking of the train.

"Tracer," I thought to myself (well, I used my real name instead of 'Tracer' because that's not how I refer to myself in real life, but the point stands), "you're the only person who's wise to the situation. You've got to do something. You've got to stop this subway train from being hijacked."
Hijacking the subway may sound stupid, but I've seen both Money Train and Speed and can assure you that North American public transit gets targetted by terrorists all the time.

Suddenly, the four arab men stood up and walked towards the centre of the car; clearly, their anti-American plan was being put into motion. I knew I had to act - for who but I could save the day? - but I found myself unable to move, strapped in place by the debilitating seatbelt of primal fear. Time slowed down. I am not a religious man but I will confess to uttering a silent prayer, promising God that I would start carrying a concealed weapon if he would just get me out of this alive.

The terrorists all stopped walking, having reached eachother, and as the doomsday clock ticked down to midnight, proceeded to chat with a couple of young ladies. Then the train stopped, and they got off at the station.

Then I sent my overly long and melodramatic story to womenswallstreet.com because it was my dream to be a writer of crime fiction and not an accountant.

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-MBeggar

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[This message has been edited by Tracer (edited July 21, 2004).]

bwhahahaha

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I'd love to see you keep your cool in a situation like that. Anyone would be freaked out by suspicious behavior like that, and with the authorities responding after the plane landed. Why is she stupid? Her thoughts seem very justified to me.



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ZGPC

WOAH TRACER. ARE YOU SERIOUS?

In other words, I want my eyesight back.

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Um, you've got it.

What?

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"Look at me! I'm Tracer! BLAHBLAHBLAH!"

-MBeggar

Yeah, I think I still love you.

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0 of 14.

I love both of you.

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Cantina Cloud | BCF | The Massassian 1, 2 & 3 | Gonkmeg
Corrupting the kiddies since '97

someone please sum up? I read the first page and a bit and so far it just sounds like an 'aware american' (is that what she called it?) worried about sharing a plane with middle eastern men.

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You really need to read it all. I thought the same thing at first, but once it gets onto the 'aftermath' of it all she doesn't seem quite as paranoid as I first thought.

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Cantina Cloud | BCF | The Massassian 1, 2 & 3 | Gonkmeg
Corrupting the kiddies since '97

Tracer, you have provided me with what has to be the best laughter I've ever gotten off the Internet. You are a genius who should breed heavily before mankind loses your genes.

I'd have peed my pants in that situation though, I'm pretty paranoid. (The aircraft situation described in the Women's Wall Street article.)

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If you can read this, you need better glasses.

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That, sir, is why you are still around the NeS.

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That was fantastic. You had me going that you were serious for a bit.



So fear justifies sending the innocent tens of thousands for Muslim-Americans to Cuba? Their ilegitimate arrest is worth the small chance that terrorism could be fought?

I disagree.

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To myself I surrender to the one I'll never please.
But I still try to run on.
You know I still try to run on. But it's all or none.

Eddie Vedder

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If you can read this you don't need glasses

It is all well and good to oppose the assumption that men are dangerous merely because they are from a dangerous part of the world. That has no place in our laws or our society. But regardless of whether she was right to be worried, to say that she is stupid for noticing those men behaving in such a way, in that context, is dogmatic and ridiculous. And if people allow their tolerance and good nature to trump common sense - the sensible reaction to what most every person sees plainly, they deserve whatever comes to them.

And they are more than stupid.

*scratches head*

What the **** are you talking about?

There are zero American citizens being held in Cuba. Yasser Hamdi and Jose Padilla, one of whom was captured fighting with the Taliban and the other after allegedly planning a 'dirty bomb' attack, are both held as enemy combatants - and both are still in the US.

I don't know about you guys, but I sure would have been worried in a situation like that. Heck, I would have been worried if I'd seen fourteen white guys behaving that suspiciously.

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"Why aren't I'm using at these pictures?" - Cloud, 4/14/02

What would be interesting to see is if she would be so 'aware' if it was a group of white people doing it.

They were just musicians..

Let's be frank, when was the last time white people hijacked an American flight?

Camp X-Ray?

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To myself I surrender to the one I'll never please.
But I still try to run on.
You know I still try to run on. But it's all or none.

Eddie Vedder

... Was shut down several years ago, and again, never housed American citizens?

I've been around way too many people on hysterical trips to buy this lady's story. Fear causes people to drop into bizarre survival modes: good for staying alive, suck for accurate reporting. I'd be surprised if half of what she observed happened outside of her head.

Work.

While I'd agree that *anyone* boarding with something that looks suspicious (mcdonalds bag, instrument case, etc) should be checked out, I think singling people out because they're Arab is stupid. I'd bet a weeks pay that she's exagerated many parts of her story. It sounds like she's using he paranoia as an excuse for racial discrimination to me.

I certainly wouldn't want to be an Arab in the USA these days..

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Ya what a quack, like there could ever be arabian terrorists! RACIST PIGS!!!!




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"If there's one thing I've learned it's this - you just can't shake hands with a fist" - David Allen Coe

Slightly less likely, but far from improbable. That was some pretty unusual behavior.

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"Why aren't I'm using at these pictures?" - Cloud, 4/14/02

The problem with this country is that people have gotten so uptight about race. I mean, logically what the **** is the problem with racial profiling? It narrows down the possibility based on a common trait. When a hispanic man commits a murder, should police go around questioning white, black, and chinese people??

Obviously she would not be so uptight if it was white people, and you know the reason why, you just choose to post such an idiotic question anyways.

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By the way, wouldn't it be ironic if they really were America-hating terrorists with a McDonald's bag?

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If you can read this, you need better glasses.

"You can get metal utensils at restaurants in the layover area." People who are afraid of others wielding FORKS and butter knives need to grow a pair.

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