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Worst flood of all times...
2007-08-04, 8:48 PM #41
Originally posted by Vincent Valentine:
:rollseyes:


Oh and btw, your post is pretty valid, and I could prove that we are at the end times with bible and a good history book. But you don't want to listen of course.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-08-04, 8:49 PM #42
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
as war is what we are too learn no more

:what:
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2007-08-04, 8:50 PM #43
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Oh and btw, your post is pretty valid, and I could prove that we are at the end times with bible and a good history book. But you don't want to listen of course.

I'm listening. No, really, go ahead and prove that.
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2007-08-04, 8:52 PM #44
Originally posted by Emon:
I'm listening. No, really, go ahead and prove that.


Ok... pulling out bible, opening google to find credible references.. give me some time this is going to be A LONG POST....
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-08-04, 8:53 PM #45
You can 'prove' all sorts of things with the bible.
What I wanna know is just how many times the world should have ended by now given that 'proof'.
You can't judge a book by it's file size
2007-08-04, 8:57 PM #46
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
opening google to find credible references

Every time you have done so in a previous thread, it has been clearly shown that your references are not credible. You always post rubbish from some conservative bible thumping website and expect us to believe it's credible just because they have their own domain name. Try not to do that this time.
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2007-08-04, 8:57 PM #47
Where does Google fall into the scheme of "with the bible and a history book"?
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2007-08-04, 8:59 PM #48
I'm wondering why he mentions the bible and then said that he was going to get "credible" references.
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2007-08-04, 9:00 PM #49
December 12, 2011
Ban Jin!
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2007-08-04, 9:02 PM #50
Yeah. I bet if we google half the stuff he posts it will be ripped from fundie EoT proselyting sites.

SMOCK! Dec 22 2012, maybe?
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2007-08-04, 9:03 PM #51
I found many different versions. It's always December and 2011 or 2012. Let's just keep an eye open during those periods.
Ban Jin!
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2007-08-04, 9:11 PM #52
Haha. Not only does he steal Jedi Starfighter models, but debate arguments too!
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2007-08-04, 9:16 PM #53
OMG u guys, these floods, the bridge in Minnesota, Hurricane Katrina, Mt. Saint Helens!

They are all signs! The world is ending!
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2007-08-04, 9:26 PM #54
Luckily, I don't have to write a big long post... I found all this stuff in an article that a friend sent me in an e-mail:

A section of the article reads:

As recorded at Luke 21:24, Jesus said: “Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations [“the times of the Gentiles,” King James Version] are fulfilled.” Jerusalem had been the capital city of the Jewish nation—the seat of rulership of the line of kings from the house of King David. (Psalm 48:1, 2) However, these kings were unique among national leaders. They sat on “Jehovah’s throne” as representatives of God himself. (1 Chronicles 29:23) Jerusalem was thus a symbol of Jehovah’s rulership.

How and when, though, did God’s rulership begin to be “trampled on by the nations”? This happened in 607 B.C.E. when Jerusalem was conquered by the Babylonians. “Jehovah’s throne” became vacant, and the line of kings who descended from David was interrupted. (2 Kings 25:1-26) Would this ‘trampling’ go on forever? No, for the prophecy of Ezekiel said regarding Jerusalem’s last king, Zedekiah: “Remove the turban, and lift off the crown. . . . It will certainly become no one’s until he comes who has the legal right, and I must give it to him.” (Ezekiel 21:26, 27) The one who has “the legal right” to the Davidic crown is Christ Jesus. (Luke 1:32, 33) So the ‘trampling’ would end when Jesus became King.

When would that grand event occur? Jesus showed that the Gentiles would rule for a fixed period of time. The account in Daniel chapter 4 holds the key to knowing how long that period would last. It relates a prophetic dream experienced by King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. He saw an immense tree that was chopped down. Its stump could not grow because it was banded with iron and copper. An angel declared: “Let seven times pass over it.”—Daniel 4:10-16.

In the Bible, trees are sometimes used to represent rulership. (Ezekiel 17:22-24; 31:2-5) So the chopping down of the symbolic tree represents how God’s rulership, as expressed through the kings at Jerusalem, would be interrupted. However, the vision served notice that this ‘trampling of Jerusalem’ would be temporary—a period of “seven times.” How long a period is that?

Revelation 12:6, 14 indicates that three and a half times equal “a thousand two hundred and sixty days.” “Seven times” would therefore last twice as long, or 2,520 days. But the Gentile nations did not stop ‘trampling’ on God’s rulership a mere 2,520 days after Jerusalem’s fall. Evidently, then, this prophecy covers a much longer period of time. On the basis of Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6, which speak of “a day for a year,” the “seven times” would cover 2,520 years.

The 2,520 years began in October 607 B.C.E., when Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians and the Davidic king was taken off his throne. The period ended in October 1914. At that time, “the appointed times of the nations” ended, and Jesus Christ was installed as God’s heavenly King.—Psalm 2:1-6; Daniel 7:13, 14.

Just as Jesus predicted, his “presence” as heavenly King has been marked by dramatic world developments—war, famine, earthquakes, pestilences. (Matthew 24:3-8; Luke 21:11) Such developments bear powerful testimony to the fact that 1914 indeed marked the birth of God’s heavenly Kingdom and the beginning of “the last days” of this present wicked system of things.—2 Timothy 3:1-5.

[Footnote]

From October 607 B.C.E. to October 1 B.C.E. is 606 years. Since there is no zero year, from October 1 B.C.E. to October 1914 C.E. is 1,914 years. By adding 606 years and 1,914 years, we get 2,520 years.

If you read this article, compared with your bible and such, you would know that the world would last at least till 1914, how ever, that is when the presence of Jesus is on earth. And from that year onward, it has been the beginning of the end, however, there are more prophecies which are destined to be fufilled during this era, some of which already have been, others which are and others which are to come. If you want I'll get into that too, but not today as I need to retire, been a long day and I'm getting up early now and have to work.

I'll stick around for a few posts.

Originally posted by Emon:
Every time you have done so in a previous thread, it has been clearly shown that your references are not credible. You always post rubbish from some conservative bible thumping website and expect us to believe it's credible just because they have their own domain name. Try not to do that this time.


Read the article, compare with your bible, then talk to me.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-08-04, 9:28 PM #55
lalalalala
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2007-08-04, 9:30 PM #56
This thread makes the baby Jesus cry.
2007-08-04, 9:42 PM #57
A Bible won't do you any good if it's lost in a flood.
2007-08-04, 9:54 PM #58
Such floods are so disastrous to life and property in places like India because of 1) high population density of poor people and 2) terribly weak civil infrastructure. The water wipes out the shanties.
2007-08-04, 9:55 PM #59
Originally posted by Anovis:
A Bible won't do you any good if it's lost in a flood.


You don't need a bible if you know the scriptures. Reading them on a daily basis, makes the most important ones easy to remember.

Originally posted by JDKNITE188:
Such floods are so disastrous to life and property in places like India because of 1) high population density of poor people and 2) terribly weak civil infrastructure. The water wipes out the shanties.


Such flood of this magnitude has not occurred before in known history.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-08-04, 9:57 PM #60
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Such flood of this magnitude has not occurred before in known history.


...
2007-08-04, 9:59 PM #61
The story of Noah's Ark was taken from an ancient Egyptian story about how the god Ra cried for 40 days and 40 nights and flooded the world. A lot of stories in the bible were taken from older stories. A lot of the bible isn't meant to be taken as fact so much as it's meant to lay down moral ground.
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2007-08-04, 10:02 PM #62
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Read the article, compare with your bible, then talk to me.

You're dense. You are doing exactly what I told you not to do. An article from an e-mail your friend sent you is not credible.
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2007-08-04, 10:10 PM #63
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
You don't need a bible if you know the scriptures. Reading them on a daily basis, makes the most important ones easy to remember.


You will not know your scriptures without a Bible, that will be lost in a Flood.
2007-08-04, 10:29 PM #64
Originally posted by Emon:
You're dense. You are doing exactly what I told you not to do. An article from an e-mail your friend sent you is not credible.


Read it, it doesn't post an opinion, 90% of the time it cites the bible, unless of course, you don't believe that the bible is a religious authority. I would have typed up the exact same thing, but this saved me time, and if you read it, you would agree with it, because it fits perfect with what the bible says and whats more, its makes more sense then the world supposedly going to end any day now, for a thousand years.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2007-08-04, 10:37 PM #65
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Such flood of this magnitude has not occurred before in known history.

The people of China, Bangladesh, Vietnam, the Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Iran, the U.K., Gujarat (India), Italy, Haiti and Dominican Republic, Louisiana (U.S.), and Pennsylvania (U.S.) would like to have a word with you.
omnia mea mecum porto
2007-08-04, 10:41 PM #66
And that is the short list.

Seriously.
2007-08-04, 10:48 PM #67
Yeah, may I add that the Chinese would like more time with you than all the others combined...
omnia mea mecum porto
2007-08-04, 11:11 PM #68
Gold, I don't really understand how you can take numbers from different parts of the bible and say they mean something together. The bible was not written by God, it was written by many different men over thousands of years. And even then, it all depends on if you believe the bible or not- which most of Massassi doesn't. So I applaud you for trying to prove something, but you're like Noah to the sinners- nobody's gonna listen to you here.

Sorry.
2007-08-04, 11:19 PM #69
How can we possibly refute such great evidence as "trees sometimes meant rulership, so it obviously means that here, in this specific passage" and "this passage from Revelations answers the cryptic value found in this passage from Ezekiel" and that Jesus came back just as Babe Ruth was making his debut (coincidence, or perhaps the Babe had a gift from above...)?
omnia mea mecum porto
2007-08-04, 11:40 PM #70
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:

Just as Jesus predicted, his “presence” as heavenly King has been marked by dramatic world developments—war, famine, earthquakes, pestilences. (Matthew 24:3-8; Luke 21:11) Such developments bear powerful testimony to the fact that 1914 indeed marked the birth of God’s heavenly Kingdom and the beginning of “the last days” of this present wicked system of things.—2 Timothy 3:1-5.


Can I get a "haha" and a "no"?

A. War. Already happened long before even Jesus's time.
B. Famine. DEFINITELY happened before Jesus's time.
C. Earthquakes. Since the first day of Earth.
D. Plenty of plagues too.

Basically, he predicted nothing.

Quote:
[Footnote]

From October 607 B.C.E. to October 1 B.C.E. is 606 years. Since there is no zero year, from October 1 B.C.E. to October 1914 C.E. is 1,914 years. By adding 606 years and 1,914 years, we get 2,520 years.

If you read this article, compared with your bible and such, you would know that the world would last at least till 1914, how ever, that is when the presence of Jesus is on earth. And from that year onward, it has been the beginning of the end, however, there are more prophecies which are destined to be fufilled during this era, some of which already have been, others which are and others which are to come. If you want I'll get into that too, but not today as I need to retire, been a long day and I'm getting up early now and have to work.
If you honestly believe this is the beginning of the end, why the hell are you on Massassi and not trying to redeem your soul or something?



I also like how this arbitrary 606/607 number comes out of nowhere (except from fervent Jehova's Witnesses who refuse to believe that their church could be wrong about something... like they were about 1914).
2007-08-04, 11:46 PM #71
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Read it, it doesn't post an opinion, 90% of the time it cites the bible, unless of course, you don't believe that the bible is a religious authority.

The Bible has never proven to be historically accurate by reputable scholars.
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2007-08-04, 11:58 PM #72
Yeah because anyone who proves it accurate is deemed disreputable.
2007-08-04, 11:59 PM #73
Bible is a rather boring book to base your beliefs in life on, hell, try Terminator 2 instead.

Much better.
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2007-08-05, 12:01 AM #74
[quote=Vincent Valentine]Yeah because anyone who proves it accurate is deemed disreputable.[/quote]
Yeah, that's exactly it. It has nothing to do with the Bible claiming things happened that couldn't have happened, or that there's absolutely no proof of things happening outside of the Bible, it must be a bias of the scholastic audience!
omnia mea mecum porto
2007-08-05, 12:02 AM #75
Originally posted by FastGamerr:
Bible is a rather boring book to base your beliefs in life on, hell, try Terminator 2 instead.

Much better.


I prefer Star Wars.
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2007-08-05, 12:08 AM #76
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
I'll stick around for a few posts.


hey

I have a better idea

How about you leave these forums forever
2007-08-05, 12:24 AM #77
Originally posted by fishstickz:
die in a fire.


1st, that's just freaky... a friend of mine said that out of the blue a week or two ago... (luckily not to me)

2nd:
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Worst flood of all times...

and I quote
[QUOTE=The Article]Monsoon rains in South Asia have driven millions from their homes and caused what the United Nations says is the worst flooding in living memory.[/quote]

oh, and yes, I see we're not on that topic anymore, but I still felt like commenting...
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2007-08-05, 1:45 AM #78
How long is living memory? I mean old people can't be relied on to remember things accurately so we're going to have to limit it to 60 year olds, but we also have to consider that young people wouldn't know what they're talking about either, so let's say they have to be at least 10.

So what the article is really saying is that these are the worst floods in about 50 years which isn't actually that big a deal.

Also, if you want to take the bible as a valid historical source you also have to take all the other religious and mythological books as valid too.
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2007-08-05, 1:51 AM #79
within living memory: Within a period of time remembered by people who are still alive.

Big big BIG difference between living memory and known history.
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2007-08-05, 6:06 AM #80
As recorded in the book of John, chapter 11, verse 35: "Jesus wept."
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