Hey! I've been researching some local ghost stories because I'm fascinated with ghosts. I stumbled on a ghost forum and found a question I'd like to hear y'alls opinion on...

If ghosts are electromagnetic manifestations, do you think they could be erased by extremely strong magnets?

(disclaimer: i'm not waving magnets around don't worry. I just thought that it was an interesting idea)

PS I'm not a scientist by any stretch of the term, so my knowledge of electromagnetics is limited, have pity!

Thatd be fun. You could kill ghosts with a gauss cannon without even firing a shot. >_>

Heh, that would be pretty funny.

Could you kill ghosts with an EMP then?

How on earth can one call ghosts "electromagnetic manifestations" when solid, concrete evidence of these ghosts don't even exist?

I'm just going with the current theories on ghosts... and a good portion of "scientists" in the paranormal field claims that ghosts are electromagnetic to some degree...

I remember seeing something from a ghost show where some guys had an EM detector and were looking around a house. They walked under a large, bright lightbulb and were like "WHOA LOOK AT ALL THIS EM, THERE MUST BE A GHOST NEARBY!" :downs:

Well, I say these "ghosts" are composed of farts. But farts that have been manipulated by brain waves. So when you fart (and it has to be a dense fart like the ones you can experience in a foggy bathroom) it becomes influenced by the waves from your brain due to all the remaining DNA exploded from your behind. If enough of the brain-wave-doused fart clouds accumulate, an invisible semi-sentient entity can be formed. And voila, ghost.

Two words that don't belong together unless followed by a third: fiction.

JediGandalf is casting Summon Dead...
JediGandalf: concentration (3+15=18 vs. DC 20) *failure*
Concentration failure, spell interrupted.

"**** you!"

JediGandalf is casting Summon Dead
JediGandalf: will save (6+3=9 vs. DC 20) *failure*
Spell Interrupted, JediGandalf is stunned for 3 rounds.

You would think that they would at least do a little research on their methodologies so they would not look like complete idiots.

I believe in ghosts.

Boo!

EEEEEK!

So are ghost pirates ghosts that became pirates, or pirates that died and became ghosts?

Also, I'm wondering how many of the ladies believe in ghosts because they hope to make the movie Ghost a reality?

There is no such thing as a paranormal scientist.

Yes there is.

No. There isn't. It's identical to a Religion Scientist.

There are people who investigate both things, but "paranormal" and "religious" scientists are people who use science to prove their experiences and ideas. Paranormal "science" is identical to the stupidity that is ID. It's bob-rackwards. People who actually investigate these things are physicists, psychologists, and sociologists. There is not a legitimate ghostology field.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

OK, but that's not science. If you want to have an unfounded and logic-defying belief in ghosts, be my guest. Don't call it science, though. Science is a process of truth, not a process of admitting there are things we can't know so anything anyone can think up must be true.

No, clearly ghost pirates are pizza-faced nerds who download ghosts illegally off the internet.

No. Paranormal is, by definition, outside the bounds of reality. Science is entirely within reality.

Every single show like Ghosthunters that has ever aired is a crock of ****. They throw around big words and wave EM meters, but in fact they are doing nothing at all.

Scientists look for evidence in order to prove or disprove a hypothesis. These people look for evidence in order to prove their beliefs, and ignore everything else.

download...ghosts?

ghosts are composed of dark matter, duh.

No, you're thinking of thetans, which are fundamentally different from ghosts in some very important aspects.

Ghosts are almost certainly composed of neutrinos.

i would have thought tachyons, since they are projections through time...

Its definatly not a serious science because of the **** who use mediums, wedgie boards and the like.

The people who use cameras, EMF Detectors (specialised ones and with ALL lights off) thermal imaging and Digital Recorderes still consider themselves amateurs. Thats a more scientific approach. Especially the ones who try to dispprove a haunting first. TAPS being the closest to professional investigators.

They rarely catch anything, but when they do its pretty impressive.

The trouble with ghosts, is that there is no reason for them to exist. The existence of the disembodied soul of a deceased person doesn't make sense from any major world view except the collective tapestry of superstitions that have filtered down to us through the ages, which inherently faulty.

It's especially stupid from a Christian or atheistic evolutionary stand point.

Why does something have to be a ghost if somebody finds something strange? Automatically assuming what ever phenomenon you find is a ghost is just stupid.

I always get a kick of all those people who point to artifacts on their crappy digital cameras and call them ghosts. ISO 3200 is indeed a mysterious thing.

It's from Ghost In The Shell.


"In Ghost in the Shell, the word ghost is colloquial slang for an individual's consciousness. In the manga's futuristic society, science has redefined the ghost as the thing that differentiates a human being from a biological robot. Regardless of how much biological material is replaced with electronic or mechanical substitutes, as long as individuals retain their ghost, they retain their humanity and individuality."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Shell_%28philosophy%29#Ghosts

In the Ghost In The Shell universe the Ghost is basically refering to the human soul. It is the only way in which one is able to retain their humanity after going through extensive cyberization.

Because most people have "cyber brains," which are connected to the internet at all times, hackers sometimes download or alter a person's ghosts or memories. Which is where the downloading comes from.

ahh yeah and the "orbs" that are either bugs or dust.

If you really think that, then you don't even know what science is.

I have this weird feeling that pride and arrogance has corrupted some of your (our?) (mankinds?) minds, and left you (us?) (people?) dead set in your presuppositions that ours is a world of purely naturalistic occurrences that can be tested and repeated in a laboratory. Perhaps a time will come when people will start looking outside the realm of a science lab, and make revolutionary discoveries for the benefit of mankind.

Personal experience and eye witness testimonies leave me to lean in favor of "ghosts" existing, and it just seems ignorant to adamantly deny something just because you yourself have not seen them. If you had seen what I have seen, you'd be in complete agreement with me. It seems somewhat silly to get upset over someone because their personal experiences are different from our own. I can totally see where the purely naturalistic viewpoints are coming from, and most of the time things might have more realistic explanations. I'd just encourage you to keep an open mind, and definitely not down someone for their position on any subject. /end rant/

I have this weird feeling that you're an impressionable twit, clinging to a group of obsolete mythological stories with no real basis to be applied to modern society.

If you'd like to exchange e-mails I could explain to you in detail why it is I believe the things I do believe.

I don't care for another crazy fundie to expunge liquid halitosis retardation into my e-mail inbox.

They already do it to me in the mall, on the street corner, and attempt to do it on my doorstep.

I think I've heard enough.

I'm not those people, nor do they necessarily provide an accurate representation of what I believe... Actually, they seem to be good at MIS-representing what it is I believe...

People see all sorts of things. The homeless guy that wanders the streets in my city can let you in on all sorts of things existing, but I don't see anyone believing his ramblings. You can't trust human eyes. It is because the flaws of perceptions we have baseless things such as "near-death experiences." And it is because of the flaws of perception why eye-witness testimonies at court trials are often unreliable and/or misleading.

edit: I mean the "life-after-life" type of NDE. Not if the NDE exists or not.

Sure, but when I see something, and my best friend sees something, and my uncle Joe sees something, it becomes more and more credible (to me). I'm not going to take the word of a homeless guy, but if me and someone else see the same thing at the same time, and someone else and his group sees something, it slowly starts to build up. Not that that is -always- reliable, but it is significant.
[edit] Especially if we all see it from different angles.

Hysteria.