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2008-03-01, 1:55 PM #41
Cheaper prisons. Ever heard of tent city? We should do that everywhere.

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In a study conducted in 1993 it was estimated that construction of a new facility would cost approximately $70,000,000. Sheriff Arpaio, concerned about the cost of a new facility and reasoning that military tents were good enough for the men and women of the U.S. armed forces who fought in Operation Desert Storm, ordered that a Tent Jail be constructed utilizing inmate labor. It consisted of Korean War era tents donated by the U.S. Military, and a 50 ft. (15.4 meter) observation tower with a vacancy sign mounted on the front. The final cost of the project was approximately $100,000 and it is capable of housing over 2400 Inmates.
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2008-03-01, 1:58 PM #42
I love Sheriff Joe Arpaio. He is awesome.
Warhead[97]
2008-03-01, 1:59 PM #43
Another bonus about it is that it sucks. This is Arizona, it gets very hot in the summer. Maybe prisoners will be more wary of going back to jail if prison wasn't so cushy.

As for Sheriff Joe, he is a badass, but he does do some unscrupulous things...
2008-03-01, 2:02 PM #44
Have you watched any of those prison shows on tv...I think one was called Lockdown? They did one or a few there where they showed him walking around with the inmates talking to them. He did it basically solely to be mean to them when they complained. And they were all complaining. It is great.

I wish I still lived in AZ.
Warhead[97]
2008-03-01, 2:20 PM #45
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Doesn't that assume that people who are innocent will be exonerated? I agree if it's not provable beyond the shadow of a doubt, but you get to a point where the chances that the verdict will fall weather for right or wrong are pretty much nil for all intents and purposes. I outside of a couple of philosophical presuppositions you can't really know anything for sure, ever. That doesn't stop you from living your life.

No assumptions; it's possible they die in prison but it does leave hope and it means that if someone really is exonerated we can do something about it to help the poor guy. Not "oh whoops, we killed him".
Killing the criminal doesn't seem necessary other than to fulfill the victim's family's or society's desire for violent retribution. I think life in prison could be equally as bad if not worse than the death penalty for the inmate and it at least creates a system where something can be done afterwards in the event of a judicial error.
2008-03-01, 2:26 PM #46
Just stick let the prisoners sort out which of them deserves to die. Stick them in and look the other way; people like this guy get murdered in prison.
2008-03-01, 8:48 PM #47
The fact that a human being is even capable of this is disturbing to me. I think I'll go live in a Alaska where I can't get news of stuff like this.
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2008-03-02, 5:26 PM #48
Originally posted by KOP_AoEJedi:
I don't think they should allow life in prison. I think we spend too much money in our tax dollars supporting those people. They should be tortured and murdered inhumanely just as they did to the people they attacked. This way it instills fear in other would be offenders, as well as keeps prison costs down. Keep prison for those who CAN get out someday.


But it doesn't instill fear in other would-be offenders. How many people do you know that have been in a situation where they would have committed premeditated murder if they knew they could "only" get life in prison without parole?

As tax dollars go, if someone gets life they're just another mouth to feed among many. If you have the death penalty, you have to create and maintain a separate system for just those few cases. Not a very efficient way of doing things. You also have to find one or more people who are willing to do the executing- this especially becomes a problem in your system of "torture" and "inhumane murder" of the criminals. You'd probably want to avoid anyone who would enjoy doing it, but you also wouldn't want to force someone who isn't comfortable to do it.

From a functional standpoint, life in prison without parole is equivalent to death in that it permanently removes the person from society; it is superior in that it uses the same prison facilities that are needed anyway, doesn't require the government to hire someone to do the killing, and can be undone at any time if new evidence shows that the person is not guilty.
Why do the heathens rage behind the firehouse?
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