There has been so much going on lately in the news but I haven't read any of these topics brought up here. Discuss anything recently in the news that you might be interested in. A few topics off the top of my head:

Obama's radical preacher of 20 years and Obama's unlikely statements that he was not aware of his pastor's anti-American rhetoric.

Washington DC's gun control law making it to the Supreme Court. Always amazes me how liberals find the Constitution to be so clear on issues that are never addressed in it but somehow "shall not be infringed" is ambiguous.

Spitzer's prostitution scandal. I heard he was a democrat. I love how overly reported a republican's party is when one of them is in a scandal but how under reported it is for democrats.

There are a few others but I'm too lazy to type them now.

If this starts an argument about the elections I swear I'm going to punch someone in the throat.

Politics these says seem to be all posturing and minor scandals. People are bored of Bush bashing, which is sad, because what his administration is doing with the economy is probably much more serious than anything he's done to date. The candidates for the '08 race are just still just posturing, and spending a lot of time saying nothing at all. Meanwhile, our nation is facing a number of potentially disastrous problems and there's not even controversy. As disheartening as it has been to see politicians bicker over major problems, this apathy is much, much worse.

I don't care if it's illegal, Spitzer's girl is hot.

...like the fist of an angry god!

The Supreme Court also announced recently that it would hear a case on the FCC's ability to censor "fleeting" instances of foul language on television. If we're really lucky, maybe they'll reverse FCC v. Pacifica Foundation and really put the FCC back in its place.

Also, even if there is an individual right to gun ownership, it seems to me the Court could easily rule that DC is simply imposing reasonable restrictions on that right (which we do for pretty much every single other right) and not actually infringing on it.

Under-reported? Man, we heard about Spitzer in Canada.

What world are you living in? It was the #1-#34 news stories on every outlet in America, let alone the world.

You want to talk unreported? David Vitter does the same thing, except his prostitute dressed him in diapers, and almost no one talked about it.

Was his prostitute delectably hittable?

This is an issue I would like the Supreme Court to rule on.

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Eesh. Justice Anthony Kennedy would not hit that.

O Wookie, you can better than this. You can at least formulate your 'liberals make me angry grr!' tendencies into some Ann Coulter-style tirade, rather than oh-so casually 'listing' recent news topics (but finally, from a conservative perspective! what a refreshing change! we never get enough of that in the media!)

Emon was asking about Vitter's hooker. The delectably hittable status of Spitzer's hooker is not in question.

Whoops, there's two of them now?

sry guys

I can vaguely assert my opinions into open ended statements too!

Here's a news topic:

A Governor hires a prostitute and is forced out of office with threats of impeachment.

An older news topic:

A president commits adultery and is also threatened with impeachment.

A more immediate news topic:

A president starts an illegal war, commits borderline treason, and lies flat-out to the world. He plunges our country into the worst recessions, world image, and self image. Considerations of his impeachment are thrown aside as political slander.

1) The issue with Clinton is that he lied under oath.

2) I cannot stand when people make it out that Bush has caused the world to hate us.

Can people not remember how the US was perceived before Bush? I can - and we were definitely not a loved member in the community.

You just described about a quarter of all US presidents.

Nope

It wasn't favourable but if people told us that the US tortured people we'd have laughed at them. Now we wouldn't bat an eyelid.

Seriously, before Bush most of the anti-American feelings were a mixture of jealousy and the typical stupid quips based on stereotypes - "hurrrr Americans are fat and dumb" stuff. In the UK at least it was mostly good natured ribbing kinda like how we're all tea-drinking stiff upper lips with crooked teeth

Under the Bush administration it's become a strong and active dislike for the Bush & co and America in general. Now the USA is seen as some sort of power-hungry, war-mongering, imperialist nation. Filled with the obnoxious and uneducated/uncaring. One of Bush's first acts was to publically state his intention to ignore the Kyoto pact which also spread a message to the world that the US did not care how much it impacted the rest of the world, even when it's one of the worst culprits.
Before Bush, most people saw the US doing it's part as part of the UN and NATO, it's military interventions were seen as justified and in unison with the rest of the world as in Gulf War 1 and Kosovo. Clinton helped in the Dayton accords (Bosnia) and the Good Friday agreement (N.Ireland), all of which were sufficiently high profile to convince the general public that the US was all about peace-making.
Now, the Iraq war has everyone pissed off, partly because the US went gung-ho without the UN/general approval and because this seeming brashness and speedy escalation to war was based on "bad data"/lies. The Brits are just as guilty in this once but the general feeling I get here is that Brits feel Blair was too much of a lap-dog to Bush as if we just rolled along with the US's grand plans.

Sure, there's plenty in public opinion that's unfounded but Clinton definitely improved the image of the US abroad and Bush's reign has only seen it plummet.

If by "illegal war" you mean agreed upon by the majority of friendly nations, the majority of Congress, and the majority of American citizens, the latter two being a highly probable guarantee before the questionable evidence was ever submitted.

Also, Clinton bombed Iraq (For pretty much the same reasons as Bush did as I understand it) and nobody complained.

The two aren't analogous at all.

If you want to talk about the media ignoring something big, you could talk about the recent Winter Soldier.

Also, I find it really cute when people try to defend the war in Iraq. It was started on bad intelligence without as much as a whoopsidaisy. Our soldiers are doing terrible things, the CIA is doing even worse, and there is not a single Iraqi that still wants us there. We are destroying their entire country.

I think some of the things you just posted are not, in actuality, true

Wait what?

Congress never voted to declare war. Technically we haven't been at war since VJ day.

What part of my post confused you?

You're wrong.

You made some pretty strong statements without any evidence.

1) Every Iraqi wants us gone?
2) Our soldiers are doing terrible things? I know there are some videos here and there showing bad things - but don't let those incidents equate to 100% of the soldiers. Seems the world gets more upset about our soldiers than terrorists releasing a video of chopping a reporters head off. =/
3) We are destroying their entire country? The proof that everything has been destroyed and nothing has improved?

You might have some valid points - but when you exaggerate everything to make your point you lose all credibility and seem like a typical "I hate everything Bush has done. Bush has destroyed the world. Bush is satan."

The bull**** parts.

1. Prostitution should be legal.
2. It's much less hypocritical (in general) for a democrat to have sex with prostitutes or do drugs than a republican since it's far more likely that the democrat would be in favour of these things being legal (even if they don't admit it in public).
3. The reputation of the US has dropped significantly since Bush has been in power. This isn't just nostalgia here, people actually liked Bill Clinton, he did wonders for the reputation of the US.

Indeed.

I have to say this is also the general perception where I live. Although I clearly recall people being annoyed by Clinton's bombings as well. Despite that, the US had a much better image under Clinton though.

A lot of things Bush did when he became president just seemed to say 'Screw the rest of the world, let's do it our way.'

But pimps should still be illegal.

Prostitution is legal. All you have to do is record it and call it pr0n

It's legal anyway in England, but I was speaking generally. Porn isn't legal in every country either.

Um, no I'm not. Congress has not declared war since 1941. All of our wars since then have been illegal.

Not formally, no, but they did authorize the Iraqi conflict.

Yes, of course I exaggerated, but not by much. Almost every poll done in Iraq says the people want us out. Our soldiers fire rockets into houses for no reason, harass the Iraqis, torture civilians based on poor "intelligence." Yes, I'm sure many soldiers try to do their best, but if you listened to anything from Winter Soldier you would know the way soldiers act is drastically different depending on if there's an embedded reporter with them. A lot of the conflict and "terrorism" in Iraq is only there because of our troops.

Imagine of another country's army came into the US. They fire without warning at civilians driving on our own streets if they accidentally get to close to troops or bases or whatnot. They conduct raids into your homes, and if you complain you get tied up and beaten. Family members disappear for days at a time and are returned after being tortured for intel they don't have and never had. You have to worry about your kids getting to school safely, whereas before you didn't. Would you sit by happily for the best, and say "Gee, I'm sure glad this force is here protecting us," or would you grab your shotgun and try and fight the invaders infesting your home country?

Yes it's great that we overthrew Saddam, despite him having no ties to terrorism and there being no development of WoMD. It's great that we started a "democracy." But we need to GTFO.

This is a horrible and dumb analogy and you should feel bad for making it.

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