I found that highly entertaining.

We should have a database of best Jon'C posts, browseable by subject.

We would have to disable certain tags to avoid things like 'Jerk' taking up all the space in the tag cloud.

JM, in all honesty I try to avoid talking about you.

Unfortunately, nuclear meltdowns are just a little bit bigger than that.

What.

Maybe your unaware of this, but when reactors meltdown, they don't explode like a nuclear weapon. Otherwise Three Mile Island would have had more then zero deaths.

Something just flew over your head. It's the point you missed.

The worst that can happen with the kind of fuel used in a fission reactor is a steam explosion, but American reactors are designed to tank that damage.

But let's not miss the fact that he, quite wittilly, expertly explained the situation. Not saying that you missed it, just pointing it out for those that might overlook the extremely educational points in his post.



No, I don't believe any herd is keeping us from our resources. Our own regulations, red tape, and bureaucracy is keeping us from them. And, no, I'm not missing your point. I disagree with it.



Of course they aren't. They are terrorists. I must have missed where these groups were brought up previously in this thread.

I would say that your stereotypical environmentalist isn't even a real environmentalist anyway. A capitalist pig oil man can be an environmentalist. The average stereotypical environmentalist is simply a hippie wierdo.

We are in agreement.

I understand our regulations don't permit drilling oil at the moment. Something is keeping congress from changing those regulations, however. If backlash from conservationists isn't the red-tape preventing new regulations, then it is something else.

I apologize if I said you missed my point. That's not what I meant. I understand you disagree.

And those pesky guys with degrees and PhDs and research grants in the relevant science and peer-reviewed articles and no funding from Exxon-Mobil and those annoying experts at the IPCC. Damn hippies...

What, now hippies can't have an education?

Way to cling to stereotypes.

Wait, there's one thing I'm missing from the Jon 'Crude/WookCorp/etc model. It seems pretty important, but I'm no economist. What causes the price per barrel to rise during the model? If Jon 'Crude controls the source of the raw materials and the process by which they are rendered into usable products, should that company not also be able to set the market price? Or is this just where the contracts come in? Supposing Jon' Crude CAN control the market price- it saw that production costs were going up and adjusted the cost of its product accordingly. Having already agreed to sell X barrels at the previous price under the contract only leaves them in a calculated position of having lost out when a company like HappyDud, which deals in promises, sits on them for a while and sells them later. Right? Jon 'Crude can't prevent their customers from selling contracts written up specifically for said customer, can they?

Clearly, there's a lot more about the system of which I know little to nothing, but it would be nice to clear this up. It was a good model, and I'd like to know more.

Doesnt another Chernobyl = more S.T.A.L.K.E.R?.

I've got an addiction to oil, and the only cure is more oil!

Greed.

Like you said, speculators deal in promises. What they can do is restrict the supply of contracts for a particular period and drive up that price (by refusing to sell for cheaper). But when payday comes the price of the contract is still going to be less than the price on the open market because if it were more nobody would buy from the speculators.

This is the secret the oil companies don't want you to know: the prices are artificially fixed. If Syncrude sells oil for $120/bl and OPEC sells oil for $200/bl,... it doesn't matter. Competition doesn't work because the demand for oil is so huge that everybody gets bought out regardless of what their price is. But oil companies can look at the speculators, see that people are willing (theoretically) to buy oil at $350/bl, and raise their prices to match. The real damage the speculation market does is give the oil companies an excuse to do what they'd do anyway.

Are we still burying nuclear waste in this country? I mean really... That's like the cartoon where everytime the ostrich got scared he put his head in the ground (or do they actually do that?... meh). You might not see the danger, but it's still going to get you.

In the realm of people who know how to get somewhere in life, when someone as (seemingly, I mean come on internet) well put together as Jon is mean to you, we call it a hint

Spook, don't feel bad about Joncy being mean to you, he doesn't really mean it.

Don't think drilling in Alaska will do much good.

Do support nuclear power, though.