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Penny Arcade has articulated what i hate about Star Wars books
2008-07-23, 1:00 PM #1
WHY DO AUTHORS DO THIS
IT IS STUPID

if these have become common language in star wars, namely the ones using higher technology, wouldn't it have become common language long before the technology was there to make the phrase?
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2008-07-23, 1:32 PM #2
Ha ha, mynocks in a sarlaac. Classic.
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2008-07-23, 1:46 PM #3
Especially since they use the words "hell" and "damn" in the moves. They speak English. Why can't they just assume that idioms transfer to their "real" language as well?

Oh, man, if all Star Wars book are as bad as Han Solo trilogy book I once read, damn.
2008-07-23, 2:00 PM #4
They also have the word "rendez-vous" so France existed in the Star Wars universe at some point. Probably the first planet to go down.
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2008-07-23, 2:59 PM #5
Originally posted by ECHOMAN:
They also have the word "rendez-vous" so France existed in the Star Wars universe at some point. Probably the first planet to go down.


Haha! I'd never twigged that!
2008-07-23, 3:02 PM #6
Star Wars isn't the only culprit. Star Trek does it too, and I wouldn't be surprised if many other fantasy and sci-fi series do so as well.
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2008-07-23, 3:07 PM #7
Ugh. Star Trek fan fiction?
2008-07-23, 3:11 PM #8
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Ugh. Star Trek fan fiction?

I was actually talking about the series itself (though I can't think of a specific example offhand) but I'm sure it's even more of an issue the lower down the 'rungs' you go, so to speak.
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2008-07-23, 3:15 PM #9
aaaaand as usual, i dont find it remotely amusing
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2008-07-23, 3:38 PM #10
Probably because you don't read Star Wars novels?

It's really true. It isn't even just the bad idioms and similies that attempt to be "Star Warsy," but the fact that its inconsistent. They are mixmatched with English phrases all the time, it's annoying.

It's really bad when they say **** like "sleeping palette" instead of "bed." :rolleyes:
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2008-07-23, 4:32 PM #11
Originally posted by Gebohq:
I was actually talking about the series itself (though I can't think of a specific example offhand) but I'm sure it's even more of an issue the lower down the 'rungs' you go, so to speak.


My friend pointed out that, if the TV series are to be believed, there were no popular human artists past the year 1950. They have yet to refer to a famous human composer or musician that existed after 1950.
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2008-07-23, 4:48 PM #12
I actually get more annoyed with shows that are set in the future and a character orders or has a collection of "Classic" earth music and it's "insert poplar band that plays within the last ten years the show was created"

I was watch the old T.V Show "Space: Above and Beyond" and they did this, one of the characters ordered a stero with classic rock music and the characters were like, "WOW! whats that! it's so weird!"

Also, books that do this or incoporate modern things into them. I was reading a book by Matthew Riely and I loved his Shane Schofield trilogy, but his latest book about a new group of characters had refrences to Lord of the Rings and alot of pop culture things that totaly ruined the feel of that part of the book.
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2008-07-23, 5:26 PM #13
Originally posted by Emon:
Probably because you don't read Star Wars novels?


true.

but then Penny Arcade's 1000 other comic strips arent funny either :carl:
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2008-07-23, 5:33 PM #14
Originally posted by Gebohq:
I was actually talking about the series itself (though I can't think of a specific example offhand) but I'm sure it's even more of an issue the lower down the 'rungs' you go, so to speak.


I remember one example from Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force that goes:

"When you see a light at the end of a worm hole, it's probably a photon torpedo" -- Chell
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2008-07-23, 6:15 PM #15
That's not so bad though, since wormholes and photon torpedos are firmly established within the context of Star Trek. In Star Wars novels, they just make **** up to make things seem more futuristic.
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2008-07-23, 7:39 PM #16
Originally posted by Grant:
I was watch the old T.V Show "Space: Above and Beyond" and they did this, one of the characters ordered a stero with classic rock music and the characters were like, "WOW! whats that! it's so weird!"


Hey man, that show was wicked! Space Marines oh-rah!
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2008-07-23, 8:13 PM #17
They did that in Halo. One of the landing craft was about to, well, land, and there was some kind of southern rock thing playing and the marines were all "Sarge, wtf is this crap?"

He said something along the lines of "Boys, this is your history" or some other BS.
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2008-07-23, 8:40 PM #18
Originally posted by Tracer:
Hey man, that show was wicked! Space Marines oh-rah!


its "hoo rah"

and that show was the ****. Brilliant. Shame it ended sadly.

[oh come on, why are t*ts banned?]
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2008-07-23, 9:32 PM #19
Originally posted by Ruthven:
its "hoo rah"

and that show was the ****. Brilliant. Shame it ended sadly.

[oh come on, why are t*ts banned?]


No, Marines pronounce it properly, oohrah. Hooah is how you say it with a dick in your mouth.
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2008-07-23, 9:39 PM #20
Originally posted by UltimatePotato:
They did that in Halo. One of the landing craft was about to, well, land, and there was some kind of southern rock thing playing and the marines were all "Sarge, wtf is this crap?"

He said something along the lines of "Boys, this is your history" or some other BS.


southern rock... there is no southern rock in halo
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2008-07-23, 9:42 PM #21
Originally posted by Spook:
No, Marines pronounce it properly, oohrah. Hooah is how you say it with a dick in your mouth.


Well, you would know with all the time you spend around "sailors".
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2008-07-23, 9:51 PM #22
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Well, you would know with all the time you spend around "sailors".


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2008-07-23, 9:52 PM #23
Originally posted by DrkJedi82:
southern rock... there is no southern rock in halo


First game, the mission where you have to go to the bunker in the swamp where you first find the flood. You pick up a dead soldiers data chip and that is the first thing that it shows.
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2008-07-23, 10:05 PM #24
uhm... that's not southern rock... far from it which was my point from the start... i am very familiar with the mission you speak of
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2008-07-23, 10:06 PM #25
It's not just the books that mess up slang... Leia wants to get out and push, when there probably hasn't been a wheeled vehicle for hundreds of years. She might as well say "should I go below deck and row?" or "want me to fan the sails?" That would actually make more sense.
2008-07-23, 10:08 PM #26
Originally posted by DrkJedi82:
uhm... that's not southern rock... far from it which was my point from the start... i am very familiar with the mission you speak of


What was it then, classic rock? I haven't exactly played the game any time recently, but the type of music wasn't really the point. :v:
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2008-07-23, 10:13 PM #27
Originally posted by Vincent Valentine:
It's not just the books that mess up slang... Leia wants to get out and push, when there probably hasn't been a wheeled vehicle for hundreds of years.


http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Heavy_Assault_Vehicle/wheeled_A5_Juggernaut
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Heavy_Assault_Vehicle/wheeled_A6_Juggernaut

just 2 examples

also one could imagine a landspeeder that still hovered but wouldn't move needing to be pushed
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2008-07-23, 10:19 PM #28
Or a sandcrawler.

Oh the geekery.
2008-07-23, 10:21 PM #29
Originally posted by Emon:
It's really bad when they say **** like "sleeping palette" instead of "bed." :rolleyes:


A pallet is a sleeping role, unless you mean they spelled it "palette".
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2008-07-23, 10:27 PM #30
What the hell is a "sleeping role"? Maybe I can get cast in one of those!
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2008-07-24, 12:05 AM #31
if we had some bruakkli we could have bruakkli and menkoroo, if we had some menkoroo

that was in one of them timothy zahn novels

that said, this springs to mind
2008-07-24, 1:37 AM #32
Originally posted by Wookie06:
What the hell is a "sleeping role"? Maybe I can get cast in one of those!


Sleep deprivation and exhaustion from work = typos. Deal with it.
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2008-07-24, 2:58 AM #33
Originally posted by Grant:
I actually get more annoyed with shows that are set in the future and a character orders or has a collection of "Classic" earth music and it's "insert poplar band that plays within the last ten years the show was created"

I was watch the old T.V Show "Space: Above and Beyond" and they did this, one of the characters ordered a stero with classic rock music and the characters were like, "WOW! whats that! it's so weird!"

Also, books that do this or incoporate modern things into them. I was reading a book by Matthew Riely and I loved his Shane Schofield trilogy, but his latest book about a new group of characters had refrences to Lord of the Rings and alot of pop culture things that totaly ruined the feel of that part of the book.


Haha, the (utterly utterly awful) movie of I, Robot does precisely that all the way through too. They're in the future and Will Smith is clearly really cool for driving some ancient motorbike and wearing 'vintage 2004!' converse. Just like how I'm really cool riding my pennyfarthing while listening to my gramaphone!
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2008-07-24, 3:21 AM #34
How about that scene in the Star Wars Christmas Special where the wookiee's play a holo-vid thing of Jefferson Starship? Alllllriiight!


I do agree that there must be translations in place, how else can we possibly stomach naming a fleet of ships lost and ancient even long ago and far away "Katana". Probably the only thing more gag-inducing than blatant neo-anachronisms is Orientalizing a completely alien culture to make them 'cooler'.
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2008-07-24, 7:45 AM #35
Originally posted by Mort-Hog:
Haha, the (utterly utterly awful) movie of I, Robot does precisely that all the way through too. They're in the future and Will Smith is clearly really cool for driving some ancient motorbike and wearing 'vintage 2004!' converse. Just like how I'm really cool riding my pennyfarthing while listening to my gramaphone!


but I, Robot is set in about 2050, isn't it? A time when it would be feasible to have those items avaliable. granted, i don't know anyone with 50 year old shoes
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2008-07-24, 9:36 AM #36
Originally posted by genk:
but I, Robot is set in about 2050, isn't it? A time when it would be feasible to have those items avaliable. granted, i don't know anyone with 50 year old shoes


i know some people but they don't wear their 50+year old footwear... not to mention unless stored in a perfectly ideal environment shoe leather would not be in a condition to just put them on and go chasing after robots after nearly 50 years
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2008-07-24, 11:28 AM #37
chuck taylors are rubber and canvas. no leather to worry about.
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2008-07-24, 11:31 AM #38
Originally posted by Tracer:
Hey man, that show was wicked! Space Marines oh-rah!


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2008-07-24, 1:30 PM #39
It is worse in the German translations.
In AotC Clieg Lars says something along the lines of "After I lost my leg I couldn't ride anymore." The Germans made "[...] I couldn't ride a horse anymore" out of that.
And they say extra terestrial instead of alien.
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2008-07-24, 1:34 PM #40
yeah translations do tend to screw things up

DO NOT WANT!!!!
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