Originally posted by Temperamental:
It could be very well that they suck and don't know it. I wouldn't consider them to be that good of artists, which is why they're still up and coming. They've got years they need to invest before they hone their talent into something worth putting out there to sell.
Which legendary recording sessions? I didn't record my voice if you're referring to that. The only thing I've done so far that's been released is my short film for school which is on Youtube and a few pressed DVD's circulating around my campus. The lyrics I helped out with in the studio were just as I said, only a few lines here and there to help it get along. The work I've done with rappers and audio work is more in the field of audio editing and mixing of a score into a film rather than making the actual song. The productions I've done are all dinky things I did at home when I was bored and had an interest in making some small rap beats.
I don't think there's a back and forth we have going here. I agree with you that most people cannot write a rap by sitting down with a paper and pen. What I am saying is that there are occasions where someone has a natural talent for something and can do it without much effort or training. I am not saying I am one of those people by any means, nor am I saying I was trying to be. I'm just saying that you don't have to invest years and years into honing your craft of putting words together to throw a few random lines together that rhyme. I'm not saying the end product will make you millions, but it is still a rap nonetheless.
Which legendary recording sessions? I didn't record my voice if you're referring to that. The only thing I've done so far that's been released is my short film for school which is on Youtube and a few pressed DVD's circulating around my campus. The lyrics I helped out with in the studio were just as I said, only a few lines here and there to help it get along. The work I've done with rappers and audio work is more in the field of audio editing and mixing of a score into a film rather than making the actual song. The productions I've done are all dinky things I did at home when I was bored and had an interest in making some small rap beats.
I don't think there's a back and forth we have going here. I agree with you that most people cannot write a rap by sitting down with a paper and pen. What I am saying is that there are occasions where someone has a natural talent for something and can do it without much effort or training. I am not saying I am one of those people by any means, nor am I saying I was trying to be. I'm just saying that you don't have to invest years and years into honing your craft of putting words together to throw a few random lines together that rhyme. I'm not saying the end product will make you millions, but it is still a rap nonetheless.
I meant songs by the rappers you were talking about, mainly
I think one of the problems here is that it's hard to define a point at which you can consider someone to be rapping--with singing there's a very obvious reference point which is pitch, but rapping is judged via more nebulous stuff like "flow." So when I say "rapping" I'm not including in my definition what happens when your republican friend goes "rapping is easy, watch: i'm kicking a rap, how are you chap, i am white not black"
On the other hand, there are times when someone "faking it" will produce something marginally better than some poor ****er who's actually trying, so I do know what you mean about natural aptitude. this guy is just a couple years into it and he's still one of the best I know personally.
