As is my understanding. However, they're not going to drug test you unless you're obviously impaired so I'm not really that frightened. I don't drive when I'm unable to.

Just a little anecdote -- we had a family friend who got screwed over by someone who did exactly what Temperamental suggested... the friend was driving slowly (read: the speed limit on a freeway) to anger someone who had offended him and the angered person passed him, switched into his lane, suddenly slowed, and the friend ran into him; the friend was the one who got fined and screwed over with insurance because he was "at fault" for being the driver of the car who hit from behind.


Also


Witnesses, like most cases rely on? As long as the judge can be convinced that that's how it reasonably looked, there will at least be an opportunity for a hearing at which based on how much/what the witnesses saw exactly (angry face, looking back, etc. for example) they may be able to suggest the driver's actions were indicative of his/her state of mind. Bit of a stretch, but it's definitely possible and I wouldn't be surprised if there has been some precendent set for it.


* This post is not legal advice

People who are preoccupied about the cop at a previous light abusing his lights to take a left turn and then aren't paying attention to the light ahead of them, so they slam the brakes because they don't know how much time is left on the lights, and there's cops in the area?

I don't know how the departments are organized in Louisville, but I've seen a vary broad spectrum of professionalism in our police force.

First I have to give you some background about our high way system.The highways around here have an absurd 55mph speed limit, which is a big part of the problem. The flow of traffic natural settles to around 65mph, but people in the left lane will go as fast as 80mph, so the rush hour traffic has a speed spectrum of 55-80mph which is stupidly unsafe, and makes changing lanes unnecessarily dangerous. The police generally won't pull you over unless you go about 75, and even at that level of generosity, but most interceptors you see during rush hour are on the side of the road handing out tickets. I have a feeling that the reason they don't adopt a safer and more realistic speed limit is that they make a lot more money giving out tickets for going 20 over than they would for 10 over.

I used to always drive in the left lane at around ~70mph, and would only exceed that unless someone was tailgating me really hard, and I couldn't get over to let them pass. Anyway I was driving along one day and probably went a bit over 70mph, and a marked SUV police interceptor pulls up behind me and apparently flashes his lights, just to ask me to slow down. I didn't check my mirror that carefully and thought he was just a guy who wanted me to speed up, so I nailed the gas, and he pulled me over. The officer was extremely professional asked me to slow down and only gave me a warning to boot! He was probably being nice because I had a crappy car, but I was extremely impressed.

A couple of months later I was driving home from school at night. I was driving in the left lane, passing a group of a cars that were backed up behind a tailor. All of a sudden this *** comes rocketing up at 80+ and starts tailgating me *really* close, easily close enough to cause a wreck if I had braked even moderately quickly. At this point I was going 65-70mph. I took a good look at the car behind me and it was the same model as the unmarked interceptors our PD uses, but it was too dark too see if it lights in the back. I was pretty ticked at this point but I kept my speed at 70, and got ready to let him pass as soon as I could get over. So then the guy, who turned out to be an undercover cop, turns on his lights, and I pull over onto the left shoulder. As I'm slowing down I looked to my right and saw the police car rocket past me at 80+, with his lights turned back off. Needless to say, I was pissed.

The worst speeders on our highways, by far, are the police. Around here, if a cop is tailgating you, he doesn't want to write you a ticket; he's usually just pissed that you're in the way.

First, thank you for handling your response in a much more mature manner than MB did.

Second, I see where you're coming from. I forgot all about the witnesses part, but what if there were no witnesses? He didn't mention any so that's still up in the air.

As I was reading your response I thought the exact same thing.. I wonder if there has been a legal precedent set regarding this.




Correction. The cops aren't just corrupt in their driving on highways, but everywhere. Speeding, turning lights on to get through a red light, etc.

where are the lights on his car? i call shens

a friend of mine has an old cop car but you'll never mistake it for an actual cop car so he can't mess with people... kinda hard to mistake one from the 70s for the crown vics, impalas, and the couple chargers our local cops have now

You mean the unmarked ones? They are mounted on inside in the rear windows and the windshield and in the headlights.

:tinfoil::tinfoil::tinfoil:

Deathrays......

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temperamental is temperamental

AM I REALLY?

Your observational skills astound me.

This thread FTW haha
(Poor cops from here..Jlee.. who else?)

I don't get what the big deal is. I am frequently followed closely by cops. One time they typed in my license plate number wrong (they typed "9IRS350" (Calif. standard format) when really I have personalized plates that say "91RS350") and tried to tell me my car wasn't registered because the plate doesn't exist. As soon as he realized he was an idiot he threw all my **** back in my lap and said have a nice day.

As far as the 65mph speed limit....CHP usually won't even consider pulling you over until you're going over 80.

You're an idiot. Cop cars are monitored. They have GPS locators in them. Everything a cop does is monitored. Everything. It's common for a cop to use his lights to get through an intersection because he's trying to get to a target area quicker.

Tempermental, I wouldn't bother arguing about cops on the internet, it always gets nowhere. Usually it results in mass redicule by those who would be just as quick to complain about their tickets or experiences if they were put in them, themselves. Many car forum threads suffer this same fate.






Was this in Rochester? Rochester cops are *******ssssssssssss.

I'm pretty sure a cop can't do anything after tailgating you for a mile or so, because its considered harassment and therefore illegal. Of course the courts can always say prove it or GTFO. I would probably just pull off to the side of the road. A good idea is to hit up a Barnes and Noble or something of the likes and purchase two books, one being the book of your rights, and one being a book called "Beat the Cops", and keep them in your glove compartment at ALL times (its worked for two of my friends thus far). The latter tells you every little trick when pleading for your ticket, and I believe if you become a member for some yearly fee, they will pay any tickets you receive if their techniques did not work. All I know is that its an excellent read.


For all other questions I'd ask our resident policeman, JLee. He'd probably know best.

Haha Temperamental returned and is all gangsta again.

4 real

Maybe Tupac will also come to life sometime soon. Or maybe he's too busy being tailgated by korrupt kops.

A glimpse of insight. This is the first step.

No it wasnt.

The only experiences i had in rocehster with the cops were all good though. I guess thats because I lived in the 19th ward though. The cops had MUCH better things to be doing. Although they were going to raid my apartment building one time cause my neighbor was a huge drug dealer >_>

City cops do tend to be a little distracted, but of course our highest in NY murder per capita problem has nothing to do with that whatsoever.....


Although don't get caught on monroe ave on a friday night. They'll rip up one side of you and down the other reguardless of right or wrong.

Being out in fairport currently, I find I'm getting pulled over for scratches in my paint.

Holy **** monroe ave is a ****ing terrifying road to be on. I went to Oxfords one night and some kid was being mugged across the street just as i got there.

Oh and then there was that time someone got shot in front of my friends car

Or the guys who got shot at gitsies. I completely avoid monroe on the weekends, its the armpit of rochester. I'd honestly rather be on Conkey on friday night.

I've got some law trouble stories about monroe. Like the time I was mistaken for a drug dealer.. yeaaahhh, defenitely don't even do drugs.

Pretty sure most states will have an "obstructing the normal flow of traffic" law. Hitting the breaks when you're not planning on making a turn is almost certain to qualify.

The fact of the matter is that any action calculated to cause a police car to crash into you is probably a bad move.

Edit: Didn't notice before that you're in Canada, so disregard "most states." Still, I suspect the Great White North isn't that different from the U.S. in terms of traffic laws.

Tempermental appears to be a moron..I'll have to educate him when I get home...

That was the CHP that I hired. I'm following your ***, Thrawn!

Thats quite a misfortune, he probably had nothing else better to do. It happend to my dad the other day. I think they look for people to arrest - perhaps they get comission? Who knows, but yeah that would annoy me...

Damn, you completely miss satire don't you.

If I saw you do that, I could hit you with reckless driving or disorderly conduct. Loss of license on the reckless, btw.


There are witnesses. You and him/her. Many cruisers also have camera systems that are like Tivos - always recording, and when the lights are activated, it will save the last two minutes (or however it is set) of video. If someone slammed on the brakes for no reason, you can bet that I'd light up- and guess what? Your last two minutes- and your hypothetical 'dog that ran out into the road!' are (or are not, in the case of the dog) on video.


I've ran lights with blue lights- I've ran lights without blue lights. It's situationally dependent. Guess what- it's not always a good idea to run lights and sirens everywhere. If I'm trying to sneak up on the erratic driver up ahead and there's no one around, I'm not going to light the world in blue so he knows I'm coming. I can do that. Live with it.


Wrong.



LMAO...can't say I've heard of that one before- maybe I'll have to check it out...

Tell you what, though- if I stop you and you start reading a book, you can expect me to tell you to put it down until I've addressed whatever issue it is that I'm addressing.



Of course we look for people to arrest...it's the job...

Alright, JLee's on the case!

Funny this thread comes up, because last night I'm driving my friend to grab dinner at the BK nearby, at around 12:20. I get to a controlled intersection, light turns green for me, I look for cops and make the U-turn. Seconds later, cop car is behind, waits for a bit then turns on the light. I eventually pull over, I don't think that helped my case. I just didn't want to stop on the middle of the road, so I pulled into a parking lot. Anyways, now I'm looking at an 83 dollar fine and 3 point ticket. Although methinks that 83 dollars is really freaking steep, I'll pay it, but planning on showing up to court to get the points knocked down/erased.

^^ Were you at a "no U-Turn" ?

**** THA PO-LICE! THEY RUINED ME GETTIN' MAH 420 ON!

Seriously people.

Well then you're the kind of **** that caused an accident that paralyzed my mom on the left side and left her in the mentality of a 12-year-old. Thanks, 5-O!

Are you sure it wasn't these guys who were tailing you:

ROOXAAANNNE

Well, those Police said they'll be watching you.

According to the situation that took place with my friend, it was merely there for show. The cop challenged him saying he was too young to know his rights, and he said he had the book right there in his car, which -according to him- ended up in the cop telling him to have a good night and walking off. Although I don't know the validity of this story.

Eh wha?

JLee, that came off as really arrogant. You're supposed to be there to serve and protect us, not alienate us

Arrogant? When Temperamental is claiming that braking quickly is a "good alternative" to get a cop in trouble?

The most arrogant parts are when he's replying to Oni and Eddbanger. And like Timewolf pointed out, he risks public safety and simply says "deal with it."

I didn't think it was arrogant? It made me chuckle cause hes probably right haha.