Heh I'd love to see Temperamental deal with Russian Police

Under British Law doing what he said, or even using the brake lights in that way can be classed as driving without due care or attention.

Lastly if a cop's following you, you've generally given them a reason to do so.

I think he meant to the point of trying to make people nervous enough (ie: tailgating for several miles) to mess up.

JLee, do you get a power trip off of being a cop?

I think given the population of the US, trying to "force" people to commit a crime is highly unlikely.

Unless they have some sort of arrest quota.

yes because cops aren't trained to be safe or anything

Oh yeah, they have zero accidents don't they? Like for example, 4 of my dad's friends in high school were killed because a cop ran a red light during a high-speed pursuit. Or timewolf's mother.

Sneaking through an intersection during a red light without lights and sirens? That's an unnecessary risk. And to be so arrogant about it makes it ten times worse. "Deal with it."

Im sorry to say, but accidents happen. And yes it sucks. A lot.

But then again, there are the morons who DONT move out of the way for cops. Or firetrucks.

Im not saying its 100% perfect, but stop being so ****ing paranoid about everything

They do have a tendency to get it away with it too, and whole issue really annoys me, because they often get away with it. But if we did that... they'd make sure that the book's thrown at us.

But they have crimes to stop so I can't comment when they are chasing a mass-murderer or somthing. Its an intresting issue though.

Nah, there's not excuse for auto chases. 80% of these guys they could just show up at their home and arrest them there.

People are idiots. When a cop puts on his or her sirens, usually people just slow down in the middle of the street and not pull over, which makes it worse for the cop to maneuver through traffic. Same with any emergency vehicle.

sure because its safer for the guy (who is probably an untrained driver) to speed through streets and just wait for him at his house.

Latis - i once saw a firetruck tear off a side mirror of some ladys SUV because she wouldnt move over far enough. it was awesome

If you aren't chased then you won't run—if you were driving erratically before, then I guarantee you'll be driving even more erratically being chased. I think you fail to realize just how often police chases get called off mb. Problem is, they should call them off more often.

People run all the time without being chased.

Maybe the solution is that *******s shouldnt drive.

READ

As DrkJedi kindly pointed out, it is situationally dependent. If the intersection is busy, I'm not running anything. Definitely blue lights and possibly siren, depending on the location, the traffic situation, my speed and the call priority. We usually come to near-stops at busy intersections because people aren't very observant.

Now, since I've typed all this already, I'm going to post it anyway. I do tend to let off steam when these threads come up- when your plumber shows up, do you tell him how to do his job? What about the electrician? Carpenter? Nope. However, people seem to love to tell cops how to do what they do. Are we perfect? No. Are some worse than others? Yes. Are some better than others? Yes. We're human too.







Thanks for generalizing, but I guarantee that I have a better driving record that nearly everyone here, and I also guarantee that I spend a lot more time driving than nearly everyone here. Am I perfect? No. But I do my best to keep my town safe.



Look at the rest of the thread. I was pissed, and you seem to lack reading comprehension.



Don't make illegal u-turns, then.



You have to realize where (and when) I work. If it's 3am and there's nobody else on the road, and I see one car acting funny, would you rather I let him get away, or sit and wait for the light to change? Or perhaps you'd rather have me hit the lights (which are freaking bright and can be seen from a looooong ways off), thereby alerting him to my presence and causing him to hide somewhere?

Another one- we were looking for a guy reported as passed out in the median (assisting the agency across the river in VT, as they had no one on). We checked a road and had a red light on the main intersection. We still don't know where this guy is. Technically, we're supposed to run lights and sirens to go through a red light. When you have an open intersection and can see for half a mile that nobody's coming, do you want me to wake you up with the siren, when it's not going to do anything?

Or how about this...trying to catch up with someone who's getting stopped for whatever reason...he's a decent ways ahead, and makes a right turn on the green light. Shall I come to a complete stop at the red before continuing on? Or, perhaps I should activate my lights and siren for a brief moment as I clear the intersection- waking up the neighbors and causing any Massassian viewers to post how I just ABUSED MY POWERS!!!!! to run a light- because, of course, that turn was in the direction of the station and, of course, that meant I wanted to go home? Or..should I safely scoot through on the red to catch the dude?



Remember those '3am and almost nobody's around' times I mentioned earlier? I found someone- going 48mph in a 30. Guess what? There was nobody around- I issued a warning.

Some of you guys are :tinfoil:...

Just noticed that I forgot to reply to this...just got up.

No, I don't. I have been known to give severe tongue-lashings to stupid people, but the ones who get scolded leave without a citation, so they should count their blessings.

I probably have a 15-1 ratio of warnings to citations...I rarely write anyone unless they're doing something really stupid (excepting unregistered vehicles, 6mo-past-due inspections, etc).

Wow you're nice. You believe in "second chances" or is the paper work for tickets a *****?

The paperwork isn't really bad at all- takes about the same amount of time to fill out a ticket as it does a warning slip. I give people second chances, and rarely do I stop the same person more than once.

I did stop a lady twice in about a month... (and she had been stopped by someone else maybe a month before my first stop). She had her two little kids in the back seat...I told them that, if they make sure that their mom always pays attention to the speed limits, I won't write her a ticket. I figured that was as bad (maybe it was worse..heh) than a ticket anyway, and maybe more effective in the long run.

When the plumber shows up, he's not there to strip me of my freedoms. You knew when you became a cop that you'd be up to public scrutiny, and there's a very good reason for that.

This thread just got really hilarious.

When the plumber comes over its make sexy time.

Seriously JLee, that's got to be the most retarded defense ever.

He wasn't following me, that was just a joke

He was tailgating me:argh:

Really? Link?



You didn't answer my question.

Apparently you don't like cops, as indicated by your oh-so-eloquent statement "Screw cops." That's fine- I don't have to like you either.

Public scrutiny is one thing...but people (who don't have a clue) telling me how to do my job is entirely different.



It's not a "defense." You don't find it odd how people (especially on the internet) think they know how to do this job (without any training)?

Why is this turning into a "lets attack JLee" thread. Seriously let the guy do his ****ing job. This thread isnt about attacking good withstanding officers who do their jobs well, its about the other side of the spectrum.

Did we run temperamental off again? Please say yes.

i think we might have

No you didn't run me off, I was actually visiting family for Thanksgiving but thanks for the concern Yoshi. I love the hard-on you've got for me And you never really scared me away before... It's called getting a life, going to college, and getting your own place. I didn't feel like wasting time on forums and other things PC related (since I knew I would get hooked probably again) and decided to concentrate on schooling first. Get it?

To all those calling me an idiot.. You should really re-read my replies in the thread.. I believe I did state at one point it was not meant as a serious alternative. "SARCASTIC TOO" Anybody? It's pretty clear to me that you all can read quite efficiently..

To the one that said I was acting gangsta "again" I never acted gangsta before, nor have I ever done it in my life... Not only that but I really don't see how it's gangsta to do something like that..But meh whatever you think.

You all seriously need to stop jumping on every post I make simply because it's me. And stop taking things so seriously when someone (or more specifically, myself) posts it. Not everything I post is 100% serious. It's the intranet, you can't really tell my tone now can ya? I can almost guarantee that it's most likely if I registered under a different name, or someone else posted that exact same thing that I said, half the derogatory replies written towards me in this thread wouldn't even exist towards that person. If you want proof just look at the last 2 pages of this entire thread. I haven't even gotten a chance to reply to all the people that have insulted me because of a silly/jokey possible alternative I made in an earlier post.



That was the only thing I was absolutely serious about in everything I posted pretty much. I know for a fact, I have seen cops put their lights on to get through a red light, then turn them off right after they get through and go along casually with the lights off or even turn into a parking lot and park the car (gas station, tim hortons, I've seen both). You can't tell me that's to get to a destination quicker when they do that. Again, I live in Canada and you guys could have a different system with the cop car monitoring in the USA or wherever you live. But you can't argue with me what I've seen clearly with my own eyes on too many occasions in too many differing scenarios sir. You're entitled to your opinion, but please don't call me an idiot because you disagree with me or do things differently where you live. I know what I've seen, and that's pretty much that.

I guess we all have our breaking in period on here.

Breaking in? I've been coming here since shortly after the forums opened

Rule #1 of the internet: don't accuse others of being noobs when you yourself are a noob.

This thread really made me mad. Thanks for reading the BobTheMasher Mood Update.

Agreed, but that can apply to so many things aside from the internet. But, if that was directed at me, I don't recall stating anyone was a noob in this thread

It was directed at Oni

Good, I was worried about why I was confused for a second there

No, but they have ticket quotas. The bastards are always out in full force at the end of the month.

Well, okay then.

It wasn't stating that anyone was a "noob", just that it seems like every once in awhile someone comes back and has to get their cherry re-popped in a huge argument with the community here.

As far as myself, I've been a member of these forums since 99', I just for the life of me can't remember my old login name or email I used to create it, which is probably a good thing.

It has nothing at all to do with "re-popping" my forum cherry and I'll just leave it at saying that much. Not only that, but I don't recall actually "arguing" with anyone over anything specific, except asking questions (i.e What law would it be breaking?), and when they throw insults at me based off a reply I make on a forum maybe. If you want a good example of what I'm speaking of, the day that I came back a few weeks ago after being on a hiatus from Massassi and stuff for a few years, one of the first replies to me was "Didn't you die in a fire? If not, could you please do so?". I don't really think I need to give you more examples to illustrate my point any further.

I've been coming here since.. Well I can't recall the exact date, but I know it was somewhere around 97'ish maybe? JK wasn't out yet I don't think and I used to talk to Madaventnor (can't remember how to spell his name, rl name was Adam though.)on ICQ all the time. I didn't post here until a couple months after coming and scouting out the forums, etc. Maybe a year or so actually.

Hey sounds like what I did. Except I didn't add "being an elitist prick" to that list.

And no, we didn't scare you away--you got banned for 6 months if I remember right

You don't remember right. I was banned for 5 days (might have been 2 weeks MAX, cant recall.. Check the bannage topic if you're really that interested) for having an argument in a thread. I came back, read a few posts, and got my acceptance to college a few weeks later without bothering to post. I wanted the hate/heat to cool down since so many people seemed so antagonistic and eventually it just trailed into the back of my memory while I concentrated on school. My leaving massassi for a bit had nothing at all to do with my banning or you. It had everything to do with getting a life and going to school, along with getting and paying for my own apartment.

I was never really an elitist prick, but if you think that, I apoligize for both the fact that you think that and the fact that I came across as what I am not. You are entitled to your opinion, but as you would so classically put it.. "Your opinion is wrong". You don't know the real life me, and in fact if you did you'd find I'm quite the opposite of what everyone thinks about me around here. Which I find h-i-l-a-r-i-o-u-s. Just how people can assume to know so much of you based off the text they see and their own interpretations of your tone of voice, etc.

I also stated to you, and others when I came back that a lot of the.. I guess you could say.."Me of the past" was also an immature young adult at that time. I'm 25 now, and I've grown up in quite a few ways. As was pointed out to your "die in a fire" reply, you seem to have not.

I do however wish to point out that you have no room to talk about someone being either "elitist" or a "prick" as you are equally guilty as I am of being one of each. Much like the rest of the community and humanity is or has been in certain points in their life. My signature doesn't say what it does simply because I like the quote you know.

If this falls on deaf ears, whatever. My final response is simply..

I may be an elitist or a prick in yours and others' eyes... But hey, I don't care what others' think of me really, at least those that don't matter in my life directly.. And at least I can safely say I've never wished death by burning in a fire upon someone.

EDIT: Last post was on 02-09-2006, 11:10 PM and the ban was by Wolfy for 2 weeks. So yeah, you remembered totally incorrectly.