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2009-02-16, 7:53 PM #41
Originally posted by Darkjedibob:
I'd rather load through Steam than StarForce or an overzealous SecuROM setup.


It's doing the same things that all those EVAL EVAL OMG EVAL CD-rom based protections do.

Like phoning home, constantly checking for credentials, assessing hardware.

It's like identical in idea and execution, only you all don't seem as butt hurt over it.
2009-02-16, 8:07 PM #42
Originally posted by Rob:
It's doing the same things that all those EVAL EVAL OMG EVAL CD-rom based protections do.

Like phoning home, constantly checking for credentials, assessing hardware.

It's like identical in idea and execution, only you all don't seem as butt hurt over it.


I still don't really see where that's such a big deal.
2009-02-16, 8:23 PM #43
It's stupid to complain about DRM and then use a program that has you wade up to your balls in DRM?
2009-02-16, 8:30 PM #44
Originally posted by Rob:
It's doing the same things that all those EVAL EVAL OMG EVAL CD-rom based protections do.


Steam does not damage my hardware. Steam does not prevent me from running other programs. Steam does not prevent me from playing my LEGALLY BOUGHT GAMES because I happen to have other software on my system.

Steam is not the same thing.
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2009-02-16, 8:35 PM #45
Originally posted by Rob:
It's stupid to complain about DRM and then use a program that has you wade up to your balls in DRM?


I complained about DRM? Rob, ya lost me.
2009-02-16, 9:38 PM #46
Let me list pros and cons that I have experienced or otherwise noticed with Steam.

Pros:

Steam allows me to download my games onto any internet-enabled computer in the world.

Steam allows me to browse game servers without having to fire up the game in question.

Steam allows me to chat with my friends, and see what games they are playing, as well as join them with only a few clicks.

Steam allows me to stop worrying about game updates, since they are applied automatically and I can be sure when I launch a game that I am up to date.

Steam allows me to easily purchase games online from the comfort of my home and begin playing them quicker than if I went out and bought retail, in some cases.

Steam allows me to play games without having to look for my CD or DVD, or a no-CD crack.

Steam installs no drivers or constantly-running services, apart from a helper service when run in limited user mode.

Steam "just works" when I reinstall Windows without needing to reinstall Steam or any of the games in Steam.

Steam occasionally allows me to preview the latest client features or bug fixes by opting into the Steam client beta.

Steam has achievements, a game overlay, friends list and chat and voice chat, and unlike other similar online services Steam offers all of its services for free.

Steam has frequent game sales and free game weekends, and guest passes and gift passes, as well as packaged games for good deals. Retail can't compare.

Steam allows for free mod developers to take advantage of Steamworks features such as achievements, auto-updating and Steam integration, and (eventually) Steam Cloud.

Steam is constantly being improved. Coming soon is the ability to sync Source engine games' saved games and settings with any internet-enabled computer running Steam (right now it's limited to L4D). It's called Steam Cloud.

It is possible through trickery to run as many copies of a game from your account on as many computers as you want for LAN party fun. The fun can't be taken online through as servers will reject duplicate accounts joining the same server.

Cons (though some of these are only cons to cheaters and pirates):

Steam must be running to run any Steam games.

Your account can only be signed on from one location at once.

If you cheat once in cheat-protected Valve games you are banned from joining any cheat-protected Valve games for life. Despite the seemingly high-risk of false positives such a system would have, Valve must have done a good job since I don't recall seeing any large-scale outrage over false bannings.

Sometimes offline mode doesn't work, preventing you from playing your games without the internet, but to be fair they said they fixed it and I haven't tried it since then.

If you're stupid, someone can steal your account including all your games.

Many of the game integration pros are limited to Valve games which have a tighter integration with Steam than third-party titles, even with Steamworks.

2009-02-16, 9:56 PM #47
I use Steam.


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2009-02-17, 3:17 AM #48
Originally posted by Rob:
It's doing the same things that all those EVAL EVAL OMG EVAL CD-rom based protections do.

Not necessarily. On quite a few occasions, publishers have removed the CD protection in favor of Steam's authentication system, where is nowhere near as intrusive.
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2009-02-17, 7:07 AM #49
Steam's great. In addition to all the good things people have said, I guess the easiest way for me to put it is it keeps your games updated, makes it easier to play on different PCs, helps you save your settings if you want, etc. Just a lot of really handy services.

That said, I still hate how offline mode works. I've been locked out of my games before and that's bull**** if you ask me.
2009-02-17, 11:58 AM #50
MZZTer listed all of the important pros for me. It's really the only time I legally purchase games, honestly. It's convenient, usually cheap, and I think it will and should be even cheaper because there's no physical cost, and as games become more multi-player centric, having more players will be more important to making money than having expensive games. I also love the consistancy it brings in playing games with others, and how there's constant development to further integrate and tie games together.
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