The most amazing thing I have seen in the shotgun world. I mean... you barely have to aim this thing and it shreds everything. What's that? You only weigh 110lbs? No problem! Fire away!

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/guns/recoilless-auto-shotgun-fires-300-rounds-per-minute-no-cleaning-or-lube-required-324453.php

From the comments: "Man i hate how this guy talks, its always in a secretive whisper like nobody should know about this"

hahahaha

I could blow up the whole goddamn world with this thing.

lmao what is that from?? I remember that from something...

The Halo 3 shotgun has to be, hands down, the worst shotgun ever invented.
and the aa12 is old news.

the halo shotgun is a pump action... so it has nothing to do with the current conversation

thanks for trying though

your the one who posted the pic

i didn't post the pic and it's YOU'RE...

epic fail²

Haven't you seen RvB, Squirrel King?

like 5 years ago .. and **** .. mixed things up.
I got started drinking a little to early..

And I'm usually a grammar nazi so about the your.

By 300 rounds per minute, do they mean every single little bit of the shot, or 300 cartridges per minute?

Also a full automatic shotgun doesn't seem terribly useful. Do you need to shoot 20 shells at once?

if you are facing hordes of zombies, yes.

automatic weapons are not recommended for zombie apocalypse and if you're letting the zombies get close enough for a shotgun to be truly effective you deserve to die

For killing all them damn commies and terrists. :downs:

pump/semi > auto?

It makes lots of little pieces of metal come out really fast, does anything more need to be said?

That's what I thought. Bring on the zombies!

they clearly mean 300 shells per minute.

AA-12 is old news.

See USAS-12 (Korea). Also, the Pancor Jackhammer beats it for the "most beastly-looking autoshotty" award.

The fact that this thing not only can shoot standard shotgun shells, but also frag grenade rounds that are guided up to 170 meters accurately like a little warhead is baffling and pant-soiling.

I'm still not impressed til they make a Flak cannon.

LINK

Ok, handheld then =P

full auto increases chance of WASTING AMMO even rapid semi-automatic fire can result in better accuracy than panicky full auto spray and pray

zombies need HEADSHOTS to take them down shotguns can't guarantee a headshot at any range beyond too forking close

a light weight accurate semi-automatic rifle or carbine is best for zombie invasion

shotguns and full auto anything have their place against human targets that can feel fear and pain and even shots that hit an arm or leg can disable them a zombie feels no fear, no pain, and as long as the brain is still intact they are still dangerous


now can we get this thread off of zombies?

Not when you make so many expert posts like this,

I want to see an average joe like most of the people on this board hit a running zombie in the head with a semi auto rifle of any kind. I'm willing to bet they will shoot no less than 5 times, for one head. So if there are 30 zombies running at them... I think I'd keep the 30 round AA-12... even if they dont die, at this point, theres so little left of them they'd be lucky to crawl.

zombies don't run... they shamble

videogame zombies sometimes run because otherwise it's too easy
sometimes in a movie they run but that's just a movie

You realize you can not shoot the thing automatic.
But then use it if/when a situation demanding it arises.

(Zombies or humans)

Which is one of the many reasons why shotguns are well known to be the best weapon against zombies.
Depending on the zombie type, head-shots might not even do anything. But using a gun that separates limbs/head from the rest of the body? Yes indeed.


Especially the gun in the link, very nice.

(oh, and even in shows where headshots -are- effective, it usually takes multiple anyway... unless it's from a shotgun)

Some of you seem to take zombies a little too seriously. O_o

You won't be saying that when we eat your brains!!

deadman with zombies it's headshots... there's no "zombie type" where headshots do nothing

and the range to guarantee a headshot with a shotgun requires you to get too close... they could be useful in close quarters but close quarters combat is something to avoid with zombies

and as i mentioned in a different thread ammo is bulky so you can't carry as much... 2 15 round magazines for the m1 carbine in a mag pouch take up the same space as a stack of 3 cd jewel cases a 30 round magazine for an AR15... roughly 3 packs of cigarettes side by side... maybe less same for AK mags

freaks

Wrong.... almost every zombie movie/show has zombies that work in different ways.
And most instances I know of headshots are no more effective then anything else unless you destroy it(the head) completely.



Clearly you haven't played many zombie games... shotgun is always the best gun. Any kind of longer range weapon takes up way too much ammo. Zombies are almost always slow and shambling and easy to take down close range with little ammo use or actual risk.



This is the only point where your argument carries some weight, but you also have to assume availability. And unless you know a real gun nut or live near an army compound, chances are you're not going to get yourself a carbine anyway, let alone a sufficient amount of ammo to take down a decent amount of zombies. ESPECIALLY since it's going to take a whole bunch of ammo to take them down with most guns... other then the shotgun.

Lets see, video game zombies, check. Movie zombies, check. Real life zombies?? The only shamble????

Anyway, everyone should know that zombies are slower as they decay and age. I'd like to prepare for the faster ones and use the shotgun. As mentioned, the rifle is really only useful for those few people who would be able to aim the damn thing. Just about the only thing that's been said that is a good point is the ammo size. Rifle ammo is more compact, but if you're using more of it due to poor aim, you're not doing yourself a favor.

I keep reading 'you shouldnt let them get close enough to need a shotgun.' Try going through an entire day without letting one human being within 10 feet of you, especially if you live in the city. Almost impossible, no imagine all of them just wandering around aimlessly until they smell your fresh braaaaainnnzzzzzzz....

Debate it to death, but the shotgun (especially this AA12 model for automatic, low upkeep, near zero recoil, and clip loading) is perfect for the zombie invasion.

Magazine loading, not clip loading.

go ahead and use your shotguns

when i run into your walking corpse i'll be sure to say i told you so when i'm putting a bullet through your head