to get married.

Seriously, something must be wrong with me. Most men dream of making money and retiring to Florida to play golf. I dream of the right woman, a couple kids, and a house in the suburbs.

I was talking to a friend tonight, because I've been kind upset and bothered lately, and I couldn't say for sure why, and then it hit me. I want a family. I'm 19 years old, and I can't wait to have a family.

What's wrong with me? Ugh.

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If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

I'm only 16 and I want a family too.

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mir·ow ( V ) Pronunciation Key (meer-oh)
Someone or something that possesses unfathomable awesomeness

I'm anxious to get married too... but I'm not fond of having kids. Therefore, I shall place uranium in my undergarments. Problem solved.

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Valuable Life Lesson: Frog + Potato Gun = Blindness
Worship Examples - Christians' love for God should be seen and heard, not merely talked about. It is through actions that one is determined to be Christian, not through words. Words (and thoughts, as well) deceive even one's own self, but the heart speaks truth.

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Nothing wrong withthat. I want to get married and have a family as well. I'm starting to find mysself looking for real realtionships rather than flings. As a result, I'm a lot more picky when it comes to girls I get involved with.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

Well, if you would rather have kids with three arms and two heads, and then get some horrible cancer in your groin area...

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"The interesting thing about video games is the way you can take about 50 shotgun blasts to the head and be instantly healed by a little white box with a cross on it."

I was the same way when I was 15... heck I was even engaged for 4 months back then...

We broke up... but now we're back together again, and also engaged again.

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I used to want to get married and eventually have kids. Now I'm thinking of spending my life alone, and definately not have kids. Oh well, maybe I'll change my mind again someday, or maybe not.

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WAITER: Here’s your green salad, sir.
ANAKIN: What? You fool, I told you NO CROUTONS! Aaaaaaargh!

And now, you'll slowly go blind from self-abuse. Wasn't what I was thinking, but... heck - at least it'd be interesting.

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For a healty meal, eat mashed potatoes, peas, and catloaf.
Massassi's cuttin' into my free time, man.
Valuable Life Lesson: Frog + Potato Gun = Blindness
Worship Examples - Christians' love for God should be seen and heard, not merely talked about. It is through actions that one is determined to be Christian, not through words. Words (and thoughts, as well) deceive even one's own self, but the heart speaks truth.

*yes before anyone makes a comment i'm quoting again *

ok with that out of the way. nah it's perfectly normal for you to want that. It may motivate you more to make sure to get a secure job to be able to help provide for your family. and your wife whoever that might be could help as well.

But nothing wrong with wanting that. I actually think tha'ts pretty cool of you to say that. So is there a particualar girl you have fallen for? Or is this just a general realization that you have come to?

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Lets finish it then, let us be rid of it...I can't carry it for you Mr. Frodo, But I can Carry YOu...Come on!

"Life Happens While You're Busy Making Other Plans..."

Heh. I wouldn't want to raise a kid in the world that's coming up. I'd rather go on my own. I figure that as long as I don't have to worry about anyone's safety but mine, I've got a chance.

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Wake up, rise and shine, Gotta take another pint, Dig heads and watch out for the night.

The girl I'm thinking of asking to prom is, I've realized, the kind of girl I would settle down with. Because I could see myself settling down with her. She's smart, intelligent (note, two very different things), kind, caring, happy, beautiful, and many other things that I could go on forever about. She invited me to church tomorrow (bleh, I hate religion. But hey, couldn't hurt) so wish me luck I suppose.

Sorry for hijacking...I think.

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all you guys rock. it's rare to see guys so open about this kind of stuff.

yup you all get brownie points

and flexor what made you think that way? I know that's definitely my thing I change my mind every so many months on what I want. But I guess that's the liberty of being 20 (almost 21) *yeah had to throw that in there lol* I'm still young so it's just the age to not be sure about things and still figuring out what you want.

Life is just that, a process of growing and changing. As well as constant improvement

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Lets finish it then, let us be rid of it...I can't carry it for you Mr. Frodo, But I can Carry YOu...Come on!

"Life Happens While You're Busy Making Other Plans..."

That would be prying... But yes, and no. There is a girl that I like right now, and I know she likes me back (we've talked about it), but because of our age differences, it will be approximately 3 years before we can pursue anything. A lot can happen in 3 years, so I don't know if that will still be a viable option. Other than her, there is no one else atm, but I'm not going to rule out everyone else just because I'm waiting for her, even though I could quite easily see myself married to her. At this point, I'm just going to wait and see what happens. I'm not exactly pursuing relationships with any other girls, but if something falls into my lap, we'll see.

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If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

She invited you to church? Can I have her number?

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If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

oh church is a good step! (not being sarcastic)

When a girl likes a guy enough to want to share going to church with the guy she likes it is always a good thing.

It shows she wants to share something she finds important to her with you. it's not such a huge step as meeting family or all that yet, but it's sharing her ideals and beliefs and that shows trust. very good sign


Ah, well good luck to both you guys sounds like you both know how to chose them with overall qualities, and not just purely for one thing or the other.

And yes 3 years a lot can happen, but who knows, you could either discover more about yourself or, about each other and it could bring you both closer together only time will tell.

But good luck to both you guys! (DJ and Sarn)

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Lets finish it then, let us be rid of it...I can't carry it for you Mr. Frodo, But I can Carry YOu...Come on!

"Life Happens While You're Busy Making Other Plans..."



[This message has been edited by twisteduprising (edited August 21, 2004).]

Yeah, she invited me, and no you can't, because I don't even have it yet . Though I suppose I could easily get it if I wanted it.

But yeah, I just don't really like organized religion too much, and the last church I went to, separating from the pastor was really painful. I loved him like a real father...it hurt a lot. So I've tended to stay away from churches in general.

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Lame excuse for not goin' to church, pal!


Yowza.

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-Monoxide-


loving the lord of the rings quote! it's so bad how well I know those movies. i've watched them so much. people get mad when I quote along with the movie. I try not to but the lines are just too great! lol

(ok sorry my tangent is done back to the thread topic, sowwie fellas, had to say it, 'cause i LOVE the movies! )

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Lets finish it then, let us be rid of it...I can't carry it for you Mr. Frodo, But I can Carry YOu...Come on!

"Life Happens While You're Busy Making Other Plans..."

I guess because I've changed alot in the past year or so. My views on the world have changed completely as well. Now I'm more independant, and more focused on myself as opposed to others. That may sound like a selfish thing to say, but that's just the way things are now.

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actually no I dont find that selfish at all. I know that's probably my one of my biggest flaws, I always tend to put others before myself.

There comes a point when you cant worry about everyone else, and you have to let them live their lives, and you have to live yours.

It's just that simple, because noone is going to do it for you. And how I've come to learn the hard way, is that you can care about all these "friends" around you, but which of them will really be there when you need them. Most tend to take and never give.

so no, I dont find what you are saying as selfish at all. I'm at a similar point in my life, but I'm still fighting the urge to want to put others before me. It's good, and it's bad at the same time.

I understand what you are trying to say though


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Lets finish it then, let us be rid of it...I can't carry it for you Mr. Frodo, but I can carry you...Come on!

"Life Happens While You're Busy Making Other Plans..."

Here is a question that will determine whither you are normal or a complete basket case: Do you want to get married as soon as possible or is it a goal for the future?

If you answered the latter, you are sane. It's not uncommon for guys to want to eventually settle down. Most guys just have a "mental list" of things they want to do and accomplish before getting married. Such things can include finishing college, getting a job, having a three-way with two swedish bikini models, etc, etc.

Or maybe it could be you just want some female companionship. Guy friends are fun, but there are certain things you can't do with them unless your really drunk.

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[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited August 21, 2004).]

Haha, yeah man, it's my single favorite quote for LOTR, I just can't help but giggle whenever I hear it..., I LOVE LOTR movies too, too bad they took out Tom Bombadil, he's so jolly and happy, he's like Santa Clause with x2 coolness. Yeah baby.
Okay back to topic.

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I continue to rely on trojan's most excellent condoms (plus I make damn well sure she takes her pill) , so kids are not on my list. I'm only 20, getting married and settling down is the last thing i want at this point. There's more time for that when i get to be 26-30.

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I have found that you can transform your character solely by the power of belief: as you believe yourself to be, so you shall become over time.

[This message has been edited by Pagewizard_YKS (edited August 21, 2004).]

sounds like a plan.



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I have found that you can transform your character solely by the power of belief: as you believe yourself to be, so you shall become over time.

ok ur on my list of cool people who I like on the board!

but yes we digress back to the topic @ hand


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Lets finish it then, let us be rid of it...I can't carry it for you Mr. Frodo, but I can carry you...Come on!

"Life Happens While You're Busy Making Other Plans..."

Yeah Pagewizard_YKS I'm the same way. I'll be 21 in a couple of months but trust me, popping out babies is the furthest thing from my mind!

late twenties, to early-mid thirties is when I see it happening if at all! your a smart smart man hehe i'm sure u already knew that though

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Lets finish it then, let us be rid of it...I can't carry it for you Mr. Frodo, but I can carry you...Come on!

"Life Happens While You're Busy Making Other Plans..."

[This message has been edited by twisteduprising (edited August 21, 2004).]

You have probably been put on the hit list right beside him with that comment.

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[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited August 21, 2004).]

Yep!

*cleans his gun*

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Have a good one,
Freelancer

since you are the one that is the most like me in character on these boards, your head will probably get pinned up on the wall too. If all else fails, I can use you as a potential decoy/human shield.



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I have found that you can transform your character solely by the power of belief: as you believe yourself to be, so you shall become over time.

Hahaha, Kieran is nothing like you.

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Have a good one,
Freelancer

Not really, his worldview and mine seem fairly consistant except for a few trivial differences.



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I have found that you can transform your character solely by the power of belief: as you believe yourself to be, so you shall become over time.

The only significant difference between Pagewizard and I is that I have more refined communication skills than he does. Pagwizard has a general attitude and flow to everything he says which resembles that of talking with a buddy while whopping his *** at some X-box Halo. I, on the other hand, can change my demeanor and disposition when I articulate. I can make crude jokes and cuss someone out when I feel it is appropriate, but on the other hand, I also act very professional and tactful when the situation calls for it. That is why pagewizard's advice is shunned and mine is usually considered even though it is usually the same. His way of presenting it is unrefined and crass which often times creates the wrong idea in people mind. Crassness is sometimes needed, but I feel Pagewizard uses that method of communication far too much(or at least has in the past). That is why he has a bad reputation.

Think of it this way when we are giving relationship advice: Pagewizard acts like the buddy who's talking to you while you cuddle a bottle of booze while I act more like a therapist(this, however, doesn't mean I'm above calling someone a wuss-bag when they deserve it). There is nothing wrong with his way, but people usually don't like it when complete strangers try to act buddy-buddy with them. Of course, his bad reputation isn't completely his fault. Yes, he probably deserved a little abuse, but people at Massassi(some more than others) are notorious for holding grudges and going on personal vendettas that give them some small bit of gratification.

If someone wants a translation of all that into a more comfortable and relaxed disposition, I will do so. You'd be suprised on how you phrase your thoughts determines whither your being insulting or not. If I had just said all that in the more relaxed carefree manner, I would probably be flamed.

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[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited August 22, 2004).]

Same, except I am not changing my mind. I hate children, and frankly I like to be alone most of the time. I cant see how anything would ever work out in a relationship like that for me. With my awesome social skills... even if I wanted it too happen, it wouldn't


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why do you say that? Nope no sad faces here, I'm going to help you out with that. Lemme have your email address so we can correspond through there. But no sad faces. No i'm not saying u have to have children but as far as relationship skills and social skills I'll get you out of that shell. Gonna turn that frown upside down

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Lets finish it then, let us be rid of it...I can't carry it for you Mr. Frodo, but I can carry you...Come on!

"Life Happens While You're Busy Making Other Plans..."

[This message has been edited by twisteduprising (edited August 22, 2004).]

Alright see now this makes sense. I was unaware of these past grudges between people and I was merely stating that I am at that same point in my life where I dont see kids happening for a while.
But I do appreciate the background, knowledge is better then coming into this forum pretty much blinded and without the history of it. Thanks Kieran

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Lets finish it then, let us be rid of it...I can't carry it for you Mr. Frodo, but I can carry you...Come on!

"Life Happens While You're Busy Making Other Plans..."

Your welcome twisted, but wtf do you think your doing? Moving in on MY turf are you? I'm the only person around here that helps guys learn how to become better with women by actually helping them and giving them material instead of throwing ideas at them. You think you can just come in an cut in on my action? I'll have the guido in the corner take you for a nice car ride.

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[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited August 22, 2004).]

I look forward to getting married too. Not so sure about having kids though. Maybe 1 or 2

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hehhehheh....perhaps that is true.

I am brutally honest. I emphasize on the "just-be-a-man" philosophy and I have completely rejected the nice-guy philosophy that is so rampant today, and removed all traces of it from me. B/c of this, I hate the very essense of nice-guyism, and I hate seeing this quality in others, so I may come off as crass when that was not my original intent.

Kieran seems to give advice catered to someone the way they are, where I prefer the total-teardown approach. I believe that all nice-guy traits must be cut away and removed before you can really grow. You have to be freed from it b/c you can't grow while keeping that mentality. You have to hit bottom before you can be rebuilt, otherwise you won't really get that much out of it.




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I have found that you can transform your character solely by the power of belief: as you believe yourself to be, so you shall become over time.

You just reminded me of another thing people may not like about you(it personally doesn't affect me because I can see the message through any wording). You act like a motivational speaker and as if attracting women is some lost divine art that only a special few have the ability to master. It makes you sound almost like a cheesy infomercial(or if you want, I could call you a hopeless romantic). It's really not some super ability you make it out to be. Anyone can learn. Most people just don't want to do the work. Then again, I'm a pragmatist. That could put a spin on things I see.

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Debating politics on the internet is about as useful and productive as shoving a broomstick up your *** .

[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited August 22, 2004).]