Why would he pay her to sodomize his dog? Man you're a sick ****.

I whole-heartedly disagree with Kieran Horn's approach (and srsly Kieran Horn??? Where the hell have you been??). This basically screams "I'm a boring, uninteresting person." and "I just want to be friends with you." Yes, I suppose it's the "Safe" way to keep from alienating her and while it almost guarantees you'll see her again, it does nothing to establish your intentions as future boyfriend. In my opinion, you have to be *slightly* more edgy than that. There's absolutely nothing wrong with talking politics or religion if she brings it up. And if you two have different opinions, that's not the end of the world. (I'm not saying you should be pushing a political agenda or get into a heated debate or anything. But having your own opinion and not being afraid to talk about it shows that you have brains and balls.) Additionally, you need to treat her in such a way that she knows you intend to take her out in a romantic fashion in the future, (ie guiding her through doorways with your hand on the small of her back, opening and holding doors for her (including the car door if you're driving her anywhere, etc.). If things are going well towards the end of the evening try holding her hand, maybe go in for the kiss. Now I'm not saying you should be pushy or anything. If she doesn't want the attention then don't give it, but you have to be able to judge where she's at and whether your advances will be welcomed (and as long as you don't screw anything up early on, they should be welcome or she'd not have agreed to go out with you anyway). It's all little stuff like where does she sit in relation to you at the bar/table, how long does her eyes linger on you when she looks your way, if she's sitting near you does she have her hands folded into her lap, unaccessable, or up on the table in range of your own hands?)

Anyway, there's my advice. DONT take it and be an ***. You gotta find the line between "I'm a boring person who wants to be your friend" and "I'm an over-bearing jealous boyfriend even though I just met you last week."

Destroying the world, one orphanage at a time.

This really only applies to level headed people on the subject, of which I've found there are fewer than I'd like. Religion and politics are taken very personally and some people can't stand people they disagree with on these issues. Of course, I guess that brings up the argument of would you really want to be with someone who takes it that seriously? I guess the reason I mention not to bring it up unless she does first is because you don't want to look like that guy. Passion or even uneducated interest for something like politics or religion can easily be misinterpreted as fanaticism.

I think that's really the only thing we disagree on so far, so I don't know where the "whole heartedly" comes from.

I don't know, it just seemed like you were instructing too much caution. Maybe I took an incorrect interpretation of your advice. *shrug*

And yeah, if the woman's gonna freak out cause she likes Obama and you don't, there's really no future with that relationship anyway, so why bother? (you know, unless you're just trying to get some)

Wait, is one of the four things "Enjoy!"?



don't listen to this guy

lawl

If she goes to the lady's room, slip out. It's important to appear mysterious on the first date. They'll want to know more about you.

It's almost 11pm where Andrew Ingram is. I wonder if she's bored of him yet?

they must be doing it, of course

This thread is now about advice for getting dates in the first place.

Advice: whatever I do, do the opposite of that

kyle, you'll be fine once you find the girl that's turned on by fancy, bright lasers.

You understand me more completely than you know.

I think she killed him.

Yes, she killed me.

Oh man I hope I can still log onto the internet when I'm dead too. It'll make eternity a whole lot less boring!

howd the date go??

Then you'll just regret all that time you wasted using the internet while you were alive. You could've been doing other stuff, instead of doing what you'd just end up doing in the afterlife!

Did it go well?

It went okay, hard to say though, it was all a bit awkward.

well...will there be a follow-up date?

ahh i love first date awkwardness, anyway

dont let it stop you, it sounds cliche, but BE YOURSELF, if she falls in love with someone who isnt really you, itll be very bad

That Detty guy is a total failure.

Yeah don't please don't memorize a list of potential conversation filling questions that's so awful.

wheres the play by play on what happened?

Welcome back Snoop. Been a couple months.

Anyway, I went on a date at a bar last night too.

I think it went better than Detty's though :/

Secks with a man. lol

Ugh, stop flaunting my sexuality.

Progress report on kyle90's attempt to get a date, day 8,415:

Showed 5 mW green laser and 5 mW violet laser to girl. She expressed interest in the lasers but not in me. Considering increasing laser power.

Good idea. Despite what you may hear, size does matter.

Well I've long said "when in doubt, increase the voltage".

Maybe it's time to amp things up too, as it were.

Well that would certainly spark things up.

I can't see how this carefully laid plan could possibly fail.

kyle, try taking the violet one and making it project a heart shape.

hmmm... those crappy red lasers you get from the dollar store often have interchangeable heads that do different shapes; that should work with my purple one. Will attempt this and report back.

Make it to where the laser will set her clothes on fire. Then jump on her and smother the flames out with your manliness.

Ha ha, Vin makes you uncomfortable

Do X-ray lasers exist? If so, you can skip all those unnecessary steps to getting in her pants!

It's not the voltage of the lasers. It's the color and sequence.