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PS3 Slim
2009-08-18, 2:05 PM #1
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10312144-1.html

PS3 Slim for $300

Game consoles are getting cheaper.

The Xbox Elite was brought down to $300.

I think I might get the PS3 Slim.

2009-08-18, 2:12 PM #2
I want PS2 support.
2009-08-18, 2:13 PM #3
Good to see Sony are keeping their streak of making the redesigns uglier than the original models. :P

I was actually going to pick up a ps3 at the end of the week, but I guess I might wait a fortnight and see if I can get a current model cheaper once the slim is available.
nope.
2009-08-18, 2:22 PM #4
Originally posted by Vin:
I want PS2 support.


Unlikely to ever happen because they won't raise costs by throwing the PS2 hardware back in, and emulating the PS2 via software is :suicide:
2009-08-18, 4:15 PM #5
I'm still glad I have the original 60 GB version.
2009-08-18, 4:21 PM #6
Originally posted by Darth:
Unlikely to ever happen because they won't raise costs by throwing the PS2 hardware back in, and emulating the PS2 via software is :suicide:


it's not suicide... just make it 100% clear that not all games will be compatible and maintain a compatibility list
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2009-08-18, 4:54 PM #7
Its about time they actually make the price of these things feasible.
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2009-08-18, 4:54 PM #8
Yeah, you took that smiley way too literally... Let me clear it up a bit more for you:

The PS2 is such a cluster**** of hardware that being tasked with emulating it via software and getting the synchronization right is likely to drive a developer to :suicide:
2009-08-18, 4:55 PM #9
That's one advantage to having the 60GB version :D
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2009-08-18, 5:36 PM #10
Some PS3's already had software emulation. Why they took it out makes no sense to me, since they still have to support it for those PS3s that had it.
2009-08-18, 5:40 PM #11
Wasn't the software emulation awful? :P
nope.
2009-08-18, 5:42 PM #12
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Some PS3's already had software emulation. Why they took it out makes no sense to me, since they still have to support it for those PS3s that had it.


It wasn't full software emulation. It still relied on the PS2's GPU, which they later took out to cut costs.
2009-08-18, 5:50 PM #13
Hurrah! Another electronic device that must be at the top of the stack or on it's own shelf!
2009-08-18, 6:52 PM #14
Originally posted by DrkJedi82:
it's not suicide... just make it 100% clear that not all games will be compatible and maintain a compatibility list


Who's going to code the emulator? That takes lots of work, even with insider info on the console in question.

Of course if I understand things correctly, there is already such an emulator on some PS3s, which makes me wonder why they left it off of this one?

2009-08-18, 7:50 PM #15
Originally posted by The Mega-ZZTer:
Who's going to code the emulator? That takes lots of work, even with insider info on the console in question.

Of course if I understand things correctly, there is already such an emulator on some PS3s, which makes me wonder why they left it off of this one?


the existing software emulation sony had on the old 80GB model was assisted by some bits of PS2 hardware if they took the extra step to emulate that as well they would obviously have a shorter compatibility list than the old 80GB model but they would be able to reintroduce some level of backwards compatibility

keep in mind there is a working PS2 emulator on the PC with a compatibility list showing 1121 playable titles
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2009-08-18, 8:03 PM #16
My room-mate bought a PS3 for Blu-ray. To this day, he has never purchased a PS3 game, with the exception of Lego Batman.

But for 300$ hell, I might buy one.
It's got a 100$ bluray player in it, plus wifi bonus, plus games.
My xbox is brokenish, has no wifi or HD support.
2009-08-18, 9:00 PM #17
Originally posted by Squirrel King:
It's got a 100$ bluray player in it


i guarantee if you find a bluray player for $100 it couldn't compete with the PS3 for bluray playback
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2009-08-18, 9:04 PM #18
I've heard a lot of people complain about PS3 Bluray problems. Personally, My roomates works great.
But a SLIM for $300, something has to be missing, right?
2009-08-18, 9:07 PM #19
I like how my PC can run PS2 games FAR better then the PS3.
GG sony.
2009-08-18, 9:44 PM #20
Originally posted by Squirrel King:
I've heard a lot of people complain about PS3 Bluray problems. Personally, My roomates works great.
But a SLIM for $300, something has to be missing, right?


i've only run into ONE bluray issue (and a minor one at that) and have heard of very few that weren't user error

PS3 boots up and loads blurays faster than most standalones, decodes all the audio formats used on bluray, can be firmware updated to keep up with future bluray profiles (at launch it was a profile 1.0 player and is currently a profile 2.0 player in fact the firmware update that added 2.0 was released before the profile 2.0 standalones were available)
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2009-08-18, 9:50 PM #21
See, that is what I have "heard" is bad about the PS3.
There is no truth to these accusations other than internet posts.
Like I said, the PS3 in my house works great.

But Ive seen posts on forums about people complaining about long load times for bluRay movies.

Even if it was a long load time, We would probably get a PS3 Slim.
I'm just saying, I don't trust something with that much of a price drop for what it offers.
2009-08-19, 6:20 AM #22
Re: top shelf. Yep, mine sits on the floor next to tv stand + all the other stuff. Stackable should be mandatory :( Anyway, I salivated over the rumors of the slim shortly after I bought my "big" one. I think the big one is really ugly.

We pretty much only use it for bluray, too. I used to get long load times until I forced it to prompt me before trying to connect to the internet (BD LIVE). For some reason now they always load fast, even on disks with no bd live. I think if you have that bd live enabled it just always connects to the internet to report your usage and whatnot. It's much better now. Only a few disks prompt me, the rest have it in a menu I guess so it doesn't connect till you click it.
2009-08-19, 7:00 AM #23
Ok, now that some shops have updated their websites I'm tempted to just buy a monolith. They've been knocked down to the same price as the slim, and they don't look like a sega reject from the early 90s. :P
nope.
2009-08-19, 8:59 AM #24
lol that sucks. I got the 160GB ps3 as a Christmas gift the year it came out. The total cost, after the extended warranty, came out to around $1200 CAD.
2009-08-19, 9:20 AM #25
Originally posted by DrkJedi82:
the existing software emulation sony had on the old 80GB model was assisted by some bits of PS2 hardware if they took the extra step to emulate that as well they would obviously have a shorter compatibility list than the old 80GB model but they would be able to reintroduce some level of backwards compatibility

keep in mind there is a working PS2 emulator on the PC with a compatibility list showing 1121 playable titles


Ever used PCSX2 (the one I assume you're referring to)? The words "working" and "playable" are a huge stretch when describing it and the games you can run on it. It's nowhere remotely close to the level an emulator would have to be at before it could be implemented as a viable console backwards-compatibility solution.
2009-08-19, 9:27 AM #26
I might get one of these suckers eventually, in big part for the bluray drive
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2009-08-19, 10:03 AM #27
For the first year or so of having my PS3, I used it for nothing but DVD/Blu-Ray watching.
2009-08-19, 10:48 AM #28
i rarely even touch my retail games... i have like 9 or 10 but i mostly use my ps3 for bluray and dvd and when i do play a game it's usually a PSN title... maybe i'm just too lazy to get up from the couch to grab a disc and the PSN games are quite good and right there in my games menu

of course it's the opposite with my 360... old dashboard and new dashboard the games list just loads too ****ing slow... sometimes getting up, selecting a game from my shelf, putting the disc into the drive, and sitting back down takes less time than accessing my XBLA games and of course there's that whole MS points nonsense...
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2009-08-19, 11:09 AM #29
The Xbox 360 dashboard is a ****ing joke :P

It takes forever to do anything with that thing, heheh.

(Note: That's coming from a xbox 360 fan. Imo in terms of games selection Xbox360 has the upper hand until the next generation, but my ****ing god did Microsoft **** up on the dashboard system.)
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2009-08-19, 11:12 AM #30
Agreed, the original dashboard was fantastic. The new one is the worst design possible from basically every perspective.
2009-08-19, 11:15 AM #31
Has anyone other then Sony ever done anything like this?
I'd love to know.
2009-08-19, 11:18 AM #32
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Agreed, the original dashboard was fantastic. The new one is the worst design possible from basically every perspective.


Aye. The only issue I had with the original dashboard was its appearance. I like the softer appearance of the new dashboard, but its functionality is fubar.
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2009-08-19, 11:27 AM #33
Originally posted by Tiberium_Empire:
Has anyone other then Sony ever done anything like this?
I'd love to know.


Slim NES, Slim SNES, Gameboy Pocket, GBA SP, DS Lite, Genesis 2, Genesis 3, Multi Mega, Xbox Halo Edition, ....
2009-08-19, 11:31 AM #34
xbox halo edition was the same size.. just in a translucent green case

you also forgot the PSOne, gameboy micro, intellivision II, and the Atari 2600 "jr"
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2009-08-19, 11:32 AM #35
There was a slim NES?
nope.
2009-08-19, 11:44 AM #36
yes
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2009-08-19, 11:47 AM #37
Yeah, it was a top-loader and apparently didn't suffer from all of the problems with dust and contact that the original did.
2009-08-19, 11:48 AM #38
You mean no slapping the console or blowing in it to get the game working?! Man that was half the console's charm!
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2009-08-19, 11:56 AM #39
slapping the console and blowing on the cartridge isn't what helped... it was reinserting it... my old frontloader has a very specific angle for inserting the cartridge to get it to work as most do... it can be fixed with widely available parts though

toploaders don't have that problem but they also don't have composite video and the RF is actually worse than that of the frontloader
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2009-08-19, 12:04 PM #40
Originally posted by Temperamental:
lol that sucks. I got the 160GB ps3 as a Christmas gift the year it came out. The total cost, after the extended warranty, came out to around $1200 CAD.


Whoever bought that is a sucker. Extended warranties are pretty much a scam, with few exceptions (of which the PS3 is not one). You get a free manufacturer's warranty for the first year, and most extended warranty covers that year as well (so 3 years extended warranty is really only 2 years extended warranty). Statistically, if an item doesn't experience a hardware fault in the first year, it isn't likely to experience one in the next three. Extended warranties are, of course, gambling and the odds are stacked firmly against the consumer and because so few extended warranties are ever claimed they are a massive source of income for retailers.

Projector TVs are the only piece of consumer electronics that I know of that probably do need extended warranties, as they break frequently and are very expensive to repair.
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